The P Town Scaries

On this week's episode, Usher had us all quaking. Don't deny it. And if it wasn't him, it was either Alicia, Lil Jon or Beyonce going Country that did it! Bridget has three brain cells remaining after Carnival weekend as she gives us a brief history of how it started and how it's celebrated in Brazil. Then we get into the topic of the week... THE LADY OF THE DUNES. One of the oldest cold cases in Boston that was solved in 2022! There are twists, turns and at least six sidebars. Even the movie "Jaws" is involved? We're going to need a bigger boat. #JusticeForTerry

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• We Know Who Killed The Lady of The Dunes - ARS Technica 
• Murderer of the Lady of the Dunes Identified - The Guardian
• Murder of Ruth Mary Terry - Wikipedia

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I was just singing, I'm blue, a ba dee da ba dee, I don't think those are the words though. Does anyone know actually the words to I'm blue, a ba dee da ba dee? Like, are those the words? I have no idea, honestly. Let me look it up. I'm so curious. Da ba dee da ba da, da ba dee da ba da. From Eiffel 56. Here's a story about a little guy that lives in a blue world and all day and all night and everything he sees is just blue like him inside and outside. Do you remember this part? No. That's the whole beginning! It is literally, the lyrics are, I'm blue, da ba dee, da ba di. Oh good, okay, well that wasn't like me making my own, you know. No, that's how the actual lyrics go. Gorgeous, I love being right. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm, I have about three brain cells left, but I'm okay. I simply can't wait to hear about it. Oh my goodness gracious. All right. We have to intro. I know. I'm about to do it. Colleen. Jesus. I'm excited for the intro today. I don't know why. Don't scream in my ear about it. Oh, I did actually just go really close to the microphone by accident. Hey! Anyway. I'm not perfect. Hi everyone. Hi. Sorry. Every time. welcome to this week's episode of Sippin with the Shannons. We're cousins and each week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk some shit, and we have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. And I'm Colleen Shannon. Okay, I have to tell you everything. Wait, do you have anything to update me on before I dive in? No, none. Standard weekend. Worked, went out. I've literally nothing to say, I swear, on my dead dog's life. Wait, what about the Superbowl? Where did you go for the Superbowl? I went to Stats, for a little Sunday Funday. It was Victoria's birthday. And then we watched a game with our friends. Like, truly, truly nothing exciting. I did want to talk about the, halftime show, but that's it. Like, that's all I have. Oh my god, Usher. Alicia motherfucking Keys. That outfit? Lil Jon was everything I needed and more. Like, I have no notes. Lil Jon, her, Ludacris, like everyone popping the fuck off. There was so much going on, like all the dancers and the different outfits and then he's on fucking rollerblades. I was like, what is happening? I don't know, but I love it. I was overstimulated for a little while. I was gonna say like at the beginning I had no hope like I was like Oh, I definitely don't like this and then it just it just turned it up a notch I said, this is becoming a pussy pop This was going from watching a game to a full pussy pop How about the fucking commercial with Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, and J. Lo, and Tom Brady in Post Malone? The commercials were literally not up to par, and that was the best one. By a landslide. Yeah, 100%. So we don't see the commercials. Oh, that sucks. That's like half the fun. I know. So every single time I went to commercial break, I was like, I'm usually excited for this part, and I think it's weird to not have them. no, wait. No, it wasn't Post Malone in the commercial. It was I knew what you meant. Harlow. Hello, Bridget. Come on. Not Post Malone. Oh, he was in it. I didn't even notice him. He must have slipped by me. Yeah, he's like in a car with Ben at one point, but it was so funny. It was. It did give me a good gig. To see him like so formal, like so like. Silly. Yes. When he's usually so formal. Yeah, I really liked that. but you, the rest of the commercials were lame. Yeah, I didn't like any of them. But maybe I just missed some. I don't know. I was intoxicated. I don't know. Okay, well if you loved a commercial, let us know which one it was so I could watch it. also, I saw a bunch of people posting, if you did not illegally download any of these songs from Lionwire, then I don't want to hear your opinion about the Halftime Show. No fair. And nothing has resonated more in my life. You don't have an opinion. So as like a millennial slash Gen Z er, more Gen Z er, you, you still thought it slapped. Did your friends enjoy it? Like, did your age group think that was fun? Oh, like we definitely weren't quaking for it, but like it was good. Like everyone loves it. How could you not love Usher? But you know what I mean? Like we weren't in that age group that was like creaming for them, you know? Yes, we were creaming. Everyone I was with was losing, we were losing our goddamn minds. So yeah, we weren't losing our minds, but we definitely were like, doo doo doo, had a little, a little jig going. Little head bop. Yeah, yeah. Little foot tap. That's cool. okay, my weekend. Carnival. Carnival? Oh my God. I like don't, I was trying to explain it to someone and I was like, there is no comparison. I was trying to think of anything that happens in the states or something we talk about. N not I have nothing. I have absolutely nothing. So carnival's a whole season and so I'm actually, I didn't know any of this before I got here, so I'm gonna give you like a quick, what is Carnival and why is it important here? Recap. Okay. Okay. Okay, so it actually started in Italy and it has to do with Lent. Okay, question mark? In the word carnival in Italian, is meet and val is goodbye. So it means goodbye to meet in the start of the 40 days leading up to Lent. Okay, got it. So it started as like a religious thing. but it was just like a normal festival in Italy where you went and you listen to some music and some people will like put on masks, but obviously not what it is now, which is a absolute party booze fest for every single night of the week. But, that's where it started. And then it kind of spread throughout. Europe and into the Americas and then it hits South America and it pops the fuck off. So Brazil is very very very proud. They are the heart and soul and the birth birthplace of the dance called the samba It's very hard to do. It's this very quick Step very fast beat like we got a mini class of it the other night and one woman was like I woke up and my ass was sore. Like we did it for 30 minutes. You would have thought we ran a marathon. The ones who have watched Dancing with the Stars know the samba. If you know, you know. Oh my god. And to watch these women in 10 inch heels. in the actual carnival parade with headdresses and wings and feathers on. Do it for eight hours straight. I was in awe. I was just, I understand why the Brazilians have the booty that they do. Like, it makes so much sense to me. The math is helping. For sure. According to carnival history, back in the 1600s, slave trading was practiced in South America. And the slaves that came to Brazil brought with them the culture and the love of music. So as times went, you know, as time went by, slaves who originated from West Africa or Angola started to mingle with the locals of Brazil and share their love for Samba. And so there's a ton of like African influences throughout Carnival. And then since then, Samba has become this integral part of Brazilian Carnival, but just Brazilian culture in general. If you go into a bar, there's Samba music playing, like it's just part of their. whole makeup. And then in the 1920s, Samba becomes really popular and people who love it start to do meetups and dances. And then it became so popular that they created Samba schools in different neighborhoods. And then they had to do, they started doing competitions with the neighborhoods between the schools. And then, uh, in the 1930s, Samba becomes a part of Carnival. So in Rio, Rio de Janeiro, it's the biggest carnival in the entire world. It has the Guinness Book World Record for the biggest blocko, which is a block party. Oh, nice. 2. 5 million people. That's so, I'm overstimulated. I'm overwhelmed. I'm sweating. They see about 2 million people per day for almost a week in Rio. It's nuts. Fucking nuts. And so during Carnival, there's a competition so you can like win Carnival in Rio. And so all of the top Samba schools perform and then they narrow it down to a smaller group and then a week later they do another parade and then they pick one winner. So yeah, it's just this insane, like, take Halloween with all of the costumes, the craziest, wildest, Project X style party that you've ever been to in your life, and then mix it with a parade kind of like the 4th of July, but on steroids. Not St. Patrick's Day selfie drunkenness, but like, I like, I don't know how the entire country celebrates it. That's wild. So it's like if the 4th of July met Halloween. Met Boston St. Patrick's Day in more than that. What a comparison for a week It's nuts. It's absolutely nuts. There is no sleeping. They dance all day every day all night I woke up the other day. I could hear a band outside like it's just insanity. So, for those of us who know Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is one day, which is yesterday, Fat Tuesday, and the difference is Carnival is an entire season and Mardi Gras is just that one day, but they both end on the same day, which was yesterday. yeah, but just Carnival is 1, 000 times better, respectfully. Like no one's whipping their tits out for beads down here. You know what I mean? Love a fat Tuesday though. Love a fat Tuesday. And so, Carnival was this weekend. The big parade night was on Saturday. And so they had a makeup artist come in at 7pm. She did our lashes. And she did all of like the gems that were on my face. She put them on my face. I was covered in glitter. I am one with glitter. Glitter now lives inside of me. Like, I think I've eaten a bunch of it by accident. As you should. She takes the, the makeup artist takes a bottle of body lotion. She rubs your arms and your chest with it. And then she dumps an entire bottle of glitter into her hand and slaps it all over you. I mean, what else is there to do with glitter? What are you supposed to do? Yeah, I just didn't realize it would cover me from head to toe. And then my friend Cara had a spray can of glitter and was spraying us with it. So we, the pictures don't even do it justice of how covered I am in glitter. Uh, so then we, we bought, A ticket to like a VIP booth, which is basically just like a sectioned off area and it has an open bar and it has places to get food all night, all night long. And they have bathrooms and they were, they gave us these ugly ass tank tops. You would have been horrified. They were so not cute. And our guide, when he gave it to us, Tiago was like, get creative. And I'm like, I don't. I'm not creative. Like, I don't, I'm just going to cut it. Like I don't know what else to do with this and you can't cut into the logo. The logo has to be shown the entire time. That's how they know you're part of the VIP booth. So we get there at like 1030. These women, I just didn't realize that I needed to be a seamstress on RuPaul's Drag Race to be here. People turned it into dresses, bathing suits, bedazzled skirts, like the most creative ways to wear a disgusting tiny top I've ever seen in my life. So, okay, great. I did a little cute little crop top. It took me about 1. 5 seconds to make, so looking real fucking cute. so we walk into the stadium, it's a literal stadium, like people sit in the seat, I mean, so they can see the whole parade, and then there are different VIP booths, so many fucking people, every single person imaginable, little tiny babies to little old ladies, everyone is samba ing and dancing. We were there until 6. 30am. Oh my god, I couldn't tell you last time I stayed up that early. Like that is, the body should not be doing that. No! No. In the, I knew it was going to be crazy so I hung in that day and then I have Celsius packets and so I drank a full one at 11pm. Jesus Christ. So that got me a few hours, but obviously by five your feet are like Completely numb and then the sky opened up and started raining So we were dancing in the rain and we heard from somebody the best part is at 6 a. m Because they open up carnival to everyone and they flood the streets and then you all finish carnival together We were like we've come this far. We're not going home before the best part. And so 6 a. m. Comes We join the crowd, they're all singing, they're all dancing, and we, there's like, it almost looks like a finish line with a clock at the top of it, and that's when you know Carnival is over, and so we got to walk the finish line with all of the dancers and the people and the, I mean the floats, Colleen, the floats were Massive. I, I've never seen anything like it. The colors, the feathers, the fucking full bands, the costumes. It was incredible. Core memory, complete insanity. I felt very safe. Some of our group went to the parade in Rio. I think I would have been way too overwhelmed by that. Oh, 100%. And then every night since there's been a blocko. And it's just like party, party, party, party, party, party. So that's why I have three brain cells left. I don't know how people are working here. I cannot believe that some of these people are getting up in the morning and, like, talking to their boss. That is Yeah. Yeah. So it's been so much fun. It's been a little difficult to like move anywhere though because all of the blocks are shut down, like restaurants are closed at random times because carnival is it like it's the end all be all everyone is celebrating it. So I am a little excited for not only things to calm down a bit, but to like see other parts of this island and not be landlocked to the. So the, you know, 20 blocks I can walk if that makes sense. And have like a sense of normalcy so you can see what it should be like. Yeah. And I, and I love fun, you know, twist my arm. I love fun, but I also love sleep. I also love the beach and being calm and like going out to a dinner and sitting down and getting served by a waiter and not drunkenly finding somewhere at 1am and saying, what do you sell? And they hand me a cheeseburger. Like I just want peace. So you want peace and to be civilized. Yes. And last night we were out all night and we come back, we have a pool party because there's a pool on the roof. We continue to drink. And then I, the only thing I had in like eight hours, I had red Doritos. It was like, okay, tomorrow, tomorrow needs to be for the food and not even like eating on. I'm not eating super unhealthy. I have salads all the time, but just sitting down and prioritizing an actual well balanced meal. You know, I hear you. So yeah, it's been absolutely crazy. My skin's breaking out because I've never put more glitter on my body in my life, but it's so fun. Like when you think you're being too ridiculous. So tutus are a really big thing that light up. And so when you're walking out of the place that we're staying at, you're like, I look Utterly ridiculous. Like, there's just simply no way and then you get there and you're like, Oh, this is conservative. I might as well have a cardigan on. And you're just comfortable. And people are just straight up showing up in thongs. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. And it's the best. So that was my weekend. And then, oh my god. I got in by the time I like actually showered and went to bed. It was like 7 30 a. m. I went we went out for the fucking Super Bowl that night. Oh, wow. I was actually gonna ask like I didn't know if like Well, I know obviously your group does but like if that was like a thing people Yeah, I was actually really surprised at how many people there's this place called top market and it's basically Oh, what's that place in the States that? People go to all the time, not Eataly, but it's like a timeout, timeout market. It's one of those where you can go around and get all sorts of different types of food. And there were tons of people in there watching the game. Tons. Oh, damn. Yeah, so I was actually really surprised. it was great. I stayed for the overtime. I thought it was a kind of a shit show of a game at first. And then we were like, wow, let's get some act, like get some points on the board. Let's make this fun. And then by the end of it, we were like, holy crap, what a game. Taylor's boyfriend won. Good for them. They're very cute. They're very sweet. I take back everything I said before. I do think we need to just let them be. I just can't. I'm excited for her to be back on tour and him to be off season because I just don't need every TikTok and every Instagram post I've ever seen in every account to be about them. It's just like, great. They're dating. They're in love. They're a power couple. We get it. Can we all be at peace? Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Beyonce just casually dropping fucking music in the middle of the Super Bowl like a goddamn baddie. Very country vibes. Loved it. Yeah. It slaps. I love it. It's such a good song. Slay. Jason Kelce in the Rey Mysterio mask or whatever it is that he had on, I was crying. Oh my god. Him in his overalls. Ugh. Close my eyes. That's all I'll think about. You have it so bad for him. I do. I really do. Love his wife though, so I'll be respectful. But let me tell ya. Love I was gonna say, I've never heard you talk about any celebrity in this way before. You, you, I'm putting it on the list of hyperfixations, Jason Kelsey. Okay. Maybe this is like a permanent lifestyle though. No, I think he's your type. Like I think this is the vibe you're going for. That's true. You're right. Speaking of which, do we have any updates on the dating aspect of things? Oh, no. Not really any update. We're just like chillin You know? Like, I don't have anything bad to say, but I also don't have anything good. But have you, have there been other dates with the same human? Oh, yes and no. Like, very casual. They aren't, like, real. Like, we didn't, like, go out and, like, get dinner. Like, it's just very Colleen, yes, you did. Technically, if you want to include that portion of that, I mean, I guess, but not really. In my mind, it's not. Ugh, the way you just undersell everything is ridiculous. It really is. If it becomes a thing, I will let you know, but it's not. Okay. Does that make sense? Yes. Absolutely. That's not an undersell. That's a straight fact. Okay. Facts. I did see, Erin and Joe and Dani and Claire on Saturday. Oh, my people. My babies. How are they? They're such sweet baby angels. I know. Claire's getting so tall and Dani, like, I feel like I'm just gonna come home and he's gonna have his driver's license. I miss them so much. Bitch, I'll be home in a month. You'll be fine. You know what I mean? I love Claire's hair. Claire is crazy. It's the best. It's so long. Oh my god. Erin will tell you but, Claire was like, just wanted to like wild out and like walk around so I just like was walking around the restaurant with her and she walked by a table and there was these two, it's like she knew, like there were these two Irish lads. And they were being like funny and they were making jokes being like we're giving a bad name to Irishmen, whatever. It was a totally separate party from obviously like Erin and Joe, they weren't even near them. She goes right up to one of like the older little Irish lads and just puts her arms up and just picks her up. Puts her on his lap. Stop. Yeah, Erin's like, alright, well that's it. That's good. No stranger danger here. Oh my God. You know, it was cute, but I was just like, okay, let's, let's back away. But it was just funny that she's just like, okay, up now, please. My sweet baby extrovert. Oh, she's so cute. So fucking cute. any, any other updates for me? No. Happy Valentine's Day. Oh my God. It's Valentine's Day. Do you want to be my Valentine? Yeah, I'd love to. I would love to. What does that entail? Leaving me alone. Bitch, I've done nothing but leave you alone. No, you've been great. You've been wonderful. And you don't actually have to leave me alone, you know that. No, it's fine. I get it, I get it. Oh, stop the drama. I actually have not done a single thing today. obviously I've just slept. So that's what being my Valentine is. Just being at peace. Okay. I saw you made your friends a little gift basket. What was in it? You sweetie? Oh, I just love a holiday. you Aaron said today, I'm getting soft in my old age. So do it that way you will. no, I just got Aaron and Fiona a little basket. Just like little cute things, like some tequila and some tajin and like a Taco Bell gift card and like scrunchies and things and candies, like nothing really that exciting. Just cause like, you know, neither of them have valentines. I think this is like the first year Earn has not had a valentine in like years. I mean, it It's not even about that. It's just a really nice thing to do for your friends. Yeah, you know. Even if they did have Valentines. That's fair. Yeah, it's very sweet. I just had some love in my heart today. I won't have any tomorrow. Thank you. I got it out of my system and now I'm empty. Thanks. Now you're done. You're done. Now we're just going back to being true bitches tomorrow. Yeah, wench is back. Oh my god, actually I did forget, you know what I made Fiona watch last night? What? Footloose. Knock, knock, footloose, footloose. Yeah, the Julianne Hough version, of course. Oh, ew. You didn't watch the original? Well, I've seen the original, but the Julianne Heffel one is more like core memory of me because I'm a Wait, am I a Gen Z or a millennial? Do you know? I believe you're technically a millennial, but you are definitely Gen Z. Okay, that's fair. his Boston accent is so terrible. So, so terrible. It's awful. Oh, wait. Gen Z. Gen Z's 1997 to 2012. You're a Gen Z er. A fish. Oh, I don't love that. You're on the cusp. You're on the cusp. Anyway, so yes, his accent's very, very bad. It's so terrible. And like, obviously, like, I hadn't seen it in a while, but, and I was like, there are definitely some cringe parts. Fiona was literally gasping for air at the scene, I don't know if you remember, or the people listening maybe do, when he's, like, in the warehouse just, like, throwing his body around like a gymnast. Like, uh, it was giving high school musical when he's in the I knew you were going to say Troy Bolin. I knew you were was worse, but it was fucking worse. And then I literally was like, Fiona, please. And she's like, I can't even watch this. But whatever. Miles Teller is a fucking king in that movie when they teach him how to dance. Oh yeah. Let's hear it for the boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Willard! Yeah, he does that in the original, which is why I think they kept it in. It's very Troy Bolton. Yeah, all of the older movies did like a full solo dance scene, and now when you look back on it, you're like, woof. A woof. You say it so much better than me. if you say so. So, not going to watch it again? What was the overall rating? It made me feel warm inside, but I wouldn't recommend it to somebody else to watch because then you would think I was a cringe. But, I'll tell you, me and Aaron, I was listening to the song Fake ID, listened to it at least four times today. Hey mister, can you sell me a fake ID? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, of course. That's all. Oh, lordy lord. Okay, are you going to jump in to the topic of the day? Oh yeah, that's me. Yeah, it's a Colleen episode. I have no idea what to expect. It's probably going to go off the rails real quick. So, yes. So, a couple things. Uh, one, I had a plan in my brain, right? And I was like, oh, I could do this because I just, like, saw it somewhere and was like, whatever. I'm not going to, like, go through a list of things I could choose. I was like, why not just run with it? But then I found something that spiraled off of that. And then I was like, okay, well, like, what if I just do this other part and then do the other part a different time? Whatever. It was a whole spiral thing. So, basically I'm gonna call this episode the P Town Scaries. Really? Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. Cool. Because we always talk about how we love P Town, like, you know, Pussy Pop Central, great vibes, great energy. But you know what? There is some shady parts of it. Oh, boy. Here we go. So, I'm just gonna get into it. I'm not gonna tell you anything else. Okay? Okay, I'm ready. so this is where the first part of the first part of the first part of the story begins. Okay? There's a couple spirals. I do go off a little bit, so bear with me, and we definitely jump around in timeline a lot, but it'll all make sense. Okay. Sounds good. And trigger warnings, obviously, for, like, murder and, like, not great things. You know the drill. If I'm on the mic, just prepare yourself. All right. Let's get into it. on July 26th, it's 1974, a 12 year old girl, she goes for a stroll with her dog near the Race Point Dunes down in P Town. And if you're not familiar, there's just these longer parts of beach, like, not Like, further away, more desolate in P Town that are really nice, but they have a lot of like dunes and they're like more untouched than the average beach, okay? So this girl is strolling with her little pup and she follows the dog who is aggressively barking all across the dunes and it led her to what would be discovered as a decomposing body of an identified woman. Oh boy. Yeah, so the remains were just yards away from a road, so it's not like it was really that far off, and it had a significant amount of, like, insect activity, so you knew it had been there for, for a hot minute. there were a couple sets of footprints around, and tire tracks too, as well, and they, the police, after they came and investigated, they decided she had been dead for about two weeks or so, so she's been there for, for a hot minute. When they found her, she was lying face down. On half of a beach blanket with a blue bandana and a pair of jeans underneath her head. And all they could figure out about her is that she had long auburn or reddish hair and it was pulled back into a ponytail with an elastic band and her toenails were painted pink. That's legitimately all they knew about her at the time. they end up calling her the Lady of the Dunes. that's how she's most known by, up until about last year. so I'll just call her, you know, that from now on, I guess. I'll just keep saying she, but you guys know who I'm talking about. It's the only person in the story for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She. so they determined that the woman that they found the police, of course, was approximately 5'6 She was 145 pounds. She had a somewhat athletic build, just a normal standard gal. Yep. We also noticed that she had a bunch of dental work, like extensive dental work. Really expensive crowns, somewhere between like 5, at the time, which obviously in the 70s, I don't know what that would be compared to now, but it's a lot more. Inflation! You know? I don't know. And not only did she have hella dental work, but a lot of her teeth had been removed, which was really interesting. And both of her hands and one forearm were also missing. Oh. Ew. Yeah. The fuck. Most sources say she could have been 40, but however. After a lot of research, they found that she could have been anywhere between 20 and 49. They just could not figure it out. Ah, okay. so not really a lot to work with. That's a really long age span. She just looks like, respectfully, your regular basic bitch. Like she, there's nothing, you know what I mean, like there's really nothing that differentiates her from any other normal person. And they have no dental records, essentially, to match her. That's ridiculous with all of the crap she's had done, though. It's not like she's never had a tooth pulled. Yeah, that's weird. It was all fucked up and majority of her teeth were missing, but the ones that they did find had like these ridiculous like caps on them. I don't know. She also was nearly decapitated from strangulation. So we don't love that. One side of her head was crushed. So it was like really hard to kind of determine what her facial structure would have been. they did determine that the head injury was the actual cause of death, not the strangulation. Although, you know, it could have been either one. Yeah, for real, geez, Louise, that poor woman. I know. At the scene on the dunes, though, the sand and the beach blanket were completely not disturbed. So that suggested to them that the body had either been moved or that she was, died there, but they also assumed that she probably knew her killer or she was asleep when she died because there was no sign of a struggle and no other evidence. was ever found other than everything that was on that blanket. So like the jeans, the bandana, the blanket and her elastic. Nothing has ever, ever been found. Around the dunes, nothing. They've searched everywhere. so they're kind of like, what the fuck do we do with this woman? they assume that obviously the missing teeth and the hands and the forearms were so whoever killed her would not be able to identify who she was or who, you know, the killer is. And it does work. Obviously, she remains completely unidentified until 2022. Wow. She was buried because after a while it became a cold case. I'd say probably if this was in, let me think, when was, what month was this in? Oh, it was July. Sorry. it was in July. They, they buried her in October. So it went that long being cold, like no one came forward. Very cut and dry. And that's how she got the nickname, the Lady of the Dunes, to be respectful. Obviously, they wanted to give her a name before they, they buried her. Sure. So, right out of the gate, they had a few, a couple different leads, but nothing obviously pans out. Clearly, she hadn't been identified since, until 2022. they're, the police are dying to identify this poor woman, and of course, who did it to her. It's so brutal, so awful. They, police poured over thousands of missing person cases, trying to match, like, maybe this could be her, maybe it couldn't be. They also went through lists of approved vehicles that were driven through the area, but like, no matches were ever found. In 1987, so some odd years later, a Canadian woman told a friend that she saw her father strangle a woman in Massachusetts around 1972. Oh my god. Yeah, so obviously, please look into it. They try to locate the woman, but they're completely unsuccessful. They cannot find her. If this isn't the woman that your father strangled, who was it? Who the fuck is it? I'm gonna need a follow up on this. Yeah, for real. Thank you for just giving me that like small piece of information and like no, no notes. Okay, sure. How, how does someone bring that up though? Like it must be drunk, right? You must be like Just drunk and be like, I saw my dad murder someone. Yeah. You didn't just come out with that. No. And also like, this was 1972, bitch, do the math. It was this, she was found in 1974. You think she was on ice for two years? Yeah. Like shut up I asked if I was, I'm like not even born yet. I'm like, I know what was going on. Anyways, there was this other lady that told the police that the, because, okay, so pause, sidebar, they did do a facial reconstruction. They had a clay one done and then they had like hand drawn ones. They're all look fucking different. So unhelpful. No, they all look so ridiculous. And now knowing what she looks like, I'm like, I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry, where? Where did you get this face? So whatever, we'll get into it. But another woman told the police that the reconstruction that was created and like shown on the news or whatever of the victim looked exactly like her sister and her sister had disappeared in 1972. I mean 1974, sorry, the year that they found her dead. that obviously didn't pan out. It was not her. And then in August of 2015, interesting enough, there was a bunch of speculation that she actually, the lady of the dunes, was an extra in the film Jaws. Yes, this I remember. Yeah, so it was shot on the vineyard during the same time frame that they found her body and Joe Hill, who's the, The son of Stephen King had brought it to police attention after the fact, and after they found the body, because, while he was watching the film's 4th of July beach scene, he spotted a woman in the crowd that was wearing the same blue bandana and the same jeans, similar to those, obviously, that they found. when they discovered her body. this also never pans out. So not great, but the picture is really creepy. It looks like her. No, it is. It's like, it's, you would be like, but again, no proof, you know what I mean? Right. So police are like, what the fuck? Someone has to know this woman somewhere. Like she's a normal, normal gal. She has to be, someone has to find her missing. Like It's just the math ain't nothing. So from this point on, her body is exhumed multiple times for retesting, because as time goes by, obviously new ways to, test DNA and things like that come about, like we've come a long way from the fuckin 70s, obviously. Uh, they exhumed her body in 1980, in 2000, and in 2013 to try to re Identify her. Which like, Pawpaw, thank you so much for not forgetting about her. Yeah, for real. But that must, that must be a lot for the family because you have to, or well, they don't know who it is. Never mind. I was going to say when they re exhume someone who's already been buried, they have to go to the family and ask permission. But, but because they don't know who she is, I guess it's not as traumatizing. Yeah, she just kind of belongs, does she like belong to the state? Like, I don't fucking know. Yeah, until they figure it out. Yeah. That's wild. Mm. but then came genetic testing. So in 2022, the remains were sent to be profiled, like DNA profiled again. I do believe it was a piece of her jaw that they sent, uh, so that way they could test it genetically. I don't really know how they do it. Genealogy. I don't fucking know. You guys know. Okay. And on Halloween Look it up. Look it up. Don't ask me, because I don't know. And on Halloween of 2022, the FBI office in Boston announced that the victim had finally been identified, and her name was Ruth Marie Terry. Oh, Ruth. Ruthie girl. Funny enough, though, Terry also had to use multiple other names, one of them being Terry Marie Vizina, and the other one being Terry Shannon. Are you fucking killing me? No, I swear to God. Wait! What? Isn't that so wild? Did you shit yourself when you read that? Yeah, so I was reading, I'll get into why I came acro I wrote about this one, but, cause I'll do it in a different episode, but then I saw that and was like, fuck it, we'll just do it today. Oh my god, that's wild. But yeah, she, for a short span of time, Went by Terri Shannon. Oh my god, that's our aunt's name. That is crazy. I know! Carissa, Carissa, Carissa. Carissa! I cannot find anything as to where she got that name from or why, but it's just, or why she even changed her name. I feel like having different names was much more casual back then. Yeah, I agree. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. but, but yeah, just know, Terry Shannon, crazy. So the police are like, fuck yeah, we got her, and they start looking into her, they get her whole backstory, they start putting together the pieces, and it's just like, things are coming together. Ruth Marie Terry was born on September 8th, 1936, in a mountainside shack in Whitwell, Tennessee. So, middle fuckin nowhere, in a shack. Got it. In 1957, she had a really short lived marriage, and she left Tennessee to work at the Fisher Body Automotive Plant in Michigan. A year later, she gives birth to her son, whose name is Richard, but she is totally unable to care for him. She's financially struggling. It ain't it for her. So she allowed the superintendent of her work. No. Whose name was Richard Hanchett, Hanchett Senior, apologies, to adopt her son in return, in return for him paying off her expenses. Wow. Fair trade? Question mark? Imagine that being like, okay. No, I mean, like, I can't imagine, but what a saint of a man to be like, okay, I'll adopt your son. Or your, your kid. I mean, I guess. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Like, I don't, I don't get how this is the math. I'm choosing to see that as like, he's like Miss Honey from Matilda and he would give that child a better home and she couldn't handle it. And so this is all for the best is the way I'm choosing to look at the situation. Let's take that and roll with it because mine was going, no, not near there. Okay, great. That sounds like a way better option. Classic us. That sounds like a way better option. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, the adoption is finalized and Terry is like, okay, peace, and she leaves and she moves to California. Wow. They find out that Terry had tried reaching out to her son in 1972, but he just wasn't ready to meet her. Given, I think that means he would have been about 14 or 15 at the time, so like, Why would I wouldn't be ready either? You know what I mean? Right, right. That's a lot. Yeah then on a February 16th of 1974 that great year she had she married this guy named Guy Rockwell Muldaven in Reno, Nevada. I'm gonna keep calling him guy because I can't stand his last name. I don't know how to pronounce it My guy guy, okay She marries guy we'll come back to him. Don't worry sidebar him for a hot minute, okay Okay. Guy. Four months before she dies, her and Guy go to Chattanooga, Tennessee, to visit her half brother, whose name is Kenneth, and his wife, Carol. Not relevant, but in case you wanted to know. They later recalled that Terry and the guy were saying they were going to go travel across the U. S. to look for antiques. He was like an antiquer or some shit. Like Whatever. So they're going cross country to search for great antiques. Got it. Her brother also says that they spoke about visiting Massachusetts as the first place they were going while they were leaving. Hmm. Guy, it's not looking good, bud. It's not looking good. Mm hmm. And then, flash forward, the late summer of 1974. Guy returns to Tennessee. to Terry's family and says she's gone missing from our California home. Uh, what? Call the police? Question mark. And then according to her sister in law, who was also there at the time, she said that he stayed for a really short time and simply told them that he just didn't know where Terry was. Was like, yeah, I don't know. Uh, no, that's not how that works. Where's the urgency? Call the police. So her brother is like, what the fuck? And he, so he travels to California to where he, you know, she allegedly went missing. And he hires a private investigator like Sweet Baby Angel. The investigator told Terry's family that all of her belongings had been sold and that she had left the state on her own will after becoming involved in a religious cult. No. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I don't like it. Question mark. And that was it. That was it. Crickets on crickets on crickets. That's so cruel to do to a family who so desperately wants to find her. And he's basically like, she don't want to see you no mo. Sorry. She hates you. And obviously he's like paying for a fucking private investigator. Like, whatever. I mean, given this is what year are we in at this point? The 70s? Still, not great. Maybe they just didn't Also, they live in a shack in Tennessee. Like, they're not seeing on the news that Yeah. Maybe her face isn't on there. I don't know. And also the reconstruction was terrible. Like, it's just There's a lot going on. Yeah, they wouldn't put two and two together. I just, it makes sense to me. Yeah. So, that was that. That's the story of her and that perspective. How about that? That's that perspective, okay? Okay. So, let's revert back to the investigation. So, they find the body. They're, we're all asking ourselves, like, who is it? I mean, who did it? Where did we go from here? What actually happened? Like, what the fuck? So, they, police start looking into, like, possibilities of who could have done this. All that stuff. Because at the time, they don't know that she like had a husband. They're just kind of like, oh, I wonder who it was, blah, blah, blah. Two people that they look into, one, in 1981, investigators learned about a woman who resembled the victim, was also seen with mobster whitey Bulger. Wait, what? Yes. That's so fucking random. So it always comes back to him also, but they were sus of him. Everything comes fucking back to him, that piece of shit. Always. Made me rot in the fieriest piss of hell. I mean, he definitely is. He's, he's down there. He's down yonder. Peace out, brother. The only reason, well, at the time, I think that anytime something like this happened, they were just like, oh, it was him, you know? but they were sus specifically because he was known for like, removing his victim's teeth and Terry was, uh, missing her teeth. And people had seen a woman who looked like her. So they were like, Oh, putting two together. Maybe that's her. Maybe that was him that did it. She's missing teeth. Oh, the math is math thing. And he probably did it. it was never proven. And he also was murdered in prison. So like we'll scratch that. He never, I feel like he would have just. Oh, don't do it. I don't know. But anyway, it wasn't him. Not the point. the other option was Tony Costa, who was a serial killer that was running a muck in Truro back in the day. but he died in May of 1974 and Terry wasn't found until July. So that wasn't him. So the reason that I came across this is because I was going to do an episode on Tony Costa. Oh, I was looking into Tony Costa to be like, Oh, I like, cause it's just like right down the road down the Cape. And then I was like, fuck it. I went down a rabbit hole, okay guys? I went down a rabbit hole. Classic. Yeah, so sidebar him for real. Okay, we'll come back to him at a later date. Cool. So then it takes them all the way until November 2nd of 2022. The police announce that they are seeking information on Terry's husband, Guy. Finally. Fucking finally. Just an FYI, they don't start looking into him, obviously until 2022 when she was identified. He had already been dead for 20 years. No! Yes, but we learn a lot. We learn a lot. I'm ready. Guy is an odd duck, to say the least. I'll just say that, okay? He attended American Academy of Dramatic Arts, and he, uh, worked as a DJ and also an antique dealer? No notes. No notes. No follow up questions. He, respectfully, like, good for him, but like, He's an odd duck, in my opinion. He's also kind of odd looking. Like, something's not correct. Something ain't right. Something ain't right. Something's wrong. My senses are tingling. Also, important to note, Terry was just one of his five wives. Sorry, what was that last part? I think you cut out, or at least I hope you did. Terry was one of his five wives. Very much Henry VIII. Uh huh. Mm hmm. Uh huh. Uh huh. So let's talk about his wives. Shall we? Sure. Let's do it. The first wife, Joellen Mayloop, which is like, such a cute name. No. No. Stop it. Stop it. You're being ridiculous now. You're making this shit up at this point. Imagine if I told you a full story, like, from point A to point B, like, and it was completely a lie and you had no idea. Uh, yeah, I can't imagine it. I absolutely can. You would get a kick out of that. Yeah, I would. I love lying. Okay. Good lord. Okay, continue. Joellen Mayloop was the first one. Absolutely nothing crazy about her. They literally just got a divorce. Like, that was it. I have nothing to say. No notes. That was the first one. Great. Then, he marries Manzanita Aileen Manzy Ryan. But she went by Manzy. Good God. Yeah. Of course she did. So Manzy, Manzy was the second one. Manzy had a daughter from a previous marriage whose name was Dolores Ann Mearns. And at the time when they got married, she was 18. Ew. No, the daughter, sorry. The daughter was 18. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Apologies, apologies. I was like, uh, mm, okay, got it. Oddly enough, both women. Disappeared in Seattle on April Fool's Day in 1960. What a terrible day to go missing because everyone's like, Is this a joke? It's like, I don't think so. She's missing. You're kidding. LOL JK. Oh my god, you're so dramatic. Find a better joke next time. That's not even funny. Oh god. Yeah, so it was no joke, they did in fact go missing, and obviously Guy becomes the prime suspect. Sidebar, a true crime writer named Anne Rule, she wrote about You know who Anne Rule is, don't you? I think so. Do I? Okay, we'll talk about her later, but please continue. Okay, definitely, once you say it, I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, that bitch, that happens to me all the time. Yeah, so Anne Rule wrote a book, it's called Smoke, Mirrors, and Murder. In it, she brings up the connection of Guy with the disappearance of, Manzi and Dolores, sorry, mouthful, she brings it up in her book and there's a ton of reasons like as to why they're connected, yada, yada, yada. One of them being that investigators found dismembered human body parts in Guy's septic tank, but they were unable to prove that it was from the missing women because it was mush. It was the 60s. They didn't have that shit to test it. So he was never charged with anything and he just moves on in life. No questions asked. Oh, so fucking frustrating. Mm hmm. Shortly after that, he marries this other bitch named Evelyn Marie Emerson. Sure. They're fine, they're coolin but right after that, uh, he faced larceny charges for swindling Evelyn's family out of 10, 000. So this guy's just a total piece of shit. Like, there's just not one redeeming quality from this person at all. Correct. in 1961, he was actually convicted of those charges for, larceny, uh, and he was sentenced to 15 years in prison, but a judge suspended the sentence and was like, whatever. He just has to repay the money. That's it. Why? Why? Mm hmm. Very good question. That's so annoying. Yeah, like, how does this fucker get good luck and we have the worst luck on the planet? Why is it always us? Always. right now. Wow, lots of sidebars, but I'm, I'm with you. But they're all so important, okay? They're so important and I really am with you. Please continue. This isn't, this isn't this sidebar because it's at the same time frame that he was married to Evelyn, okay? Okay. Sidebar. Got it. Guy at this time is also a prime suspect in the murder and disappearance of a whole ass couple, Henry Lawrence Bard, who went by Red, and Barbara Jo Kelly in California. Red and Barbara Jo Kelly had gone out for only two months and Red was a World War II veteran and a bakery truck driver. Get out of here. I know. Red. Ugh. Barbara was a waitress at a restaurant called The Sweet Shop and was known to be deeply religious. Oh, sweet lady. Like, just sweet little baby angel couple, like, I'll cry. Yeah. Except he was 28 and she was 17. Oh. Kind of scandalous for the 50s, I would think, no? Or was that normal? I think you got married very young at that age, at that time. I think that was pretty normal. Oh, you mean the age difference. Yeah. Oh, yeah, maybe. Him being 28 and she was 17, I feel, I don't know, I mean, I wasn't around then, I wouldn't know. Uh, I don't know. Shit was weird back then. Shit was popping off. Whatever. The couple told their parents that they were going to go to a show on the evening of June 17, 1950. And this would be the last evening their parents would ever see them alive. Ever. The next morning, two fishermen found Red's body laying face down in the sand on a beach with a single gunshot to the back of his head and he was wearing nothing but his socks and his shoes. Ooh. Strange, right? That seems sexually charged, but if it was this guy, then, huh, that's interesting. his clothing was folded, neatly next to him, and investigators found his girlfriend's clothes also there, except for her shoes and her stocking. So like, they both get stripped down to their socks and shoes. So fucking strange. Hmm. They suggested to investigators that someone probably made her strip off of her clothing at gunpoint and led her away because no trace of Barbara has ever been found. Wow. Yeah. They just assume Where the fuck did they go? I don't know. I hate that. So, Manz is, they just assume whoever shot him obviously took her, but she's never been seen again. And, of course, this case is, again, cold. So this man is just a whole ass serial killer. Correct. But he is the luckiest man alive. Mm. Yeah. There's, there's only, there were a couple other suspects, there was this one guy that came forward who was already in prison, he was like, found God and was like, I did it. And he tried giving like all the details, but they weren't really matching. It was this whole thing and it didn't pan out. He obviously wasn't guilty. And then other than that, guy was like the guy they had that was good for it, but they could never prove it. I didn't read too much into like why and here's the evidence and blah, blah, blah. But all I read was that everyone that knew him and knew the case believed it to be him. And it's just like one of those things, right? Like, oh yeah, he did it, you know? Right, right. Yeah, so that's that. That's that sidebar story. Back to our actual story. clearly Manz does not have a great track record. No. Nope. So there's that. And then the next record of him having married a woman is a woman named Terry in Reno, Nevada. Ugh, Terry. And then we have crickets. There's no further information. There's no divorce. Nothing. No one asks where the fuck is Terry. It's just nothing. Nothing, yeah. Mm hmm. And I don't know when, but he does have one final wife, who does see him through his death. her name is Phyllis. I don't have much about her. According to his obituary, he died at home of a lengthy illness, thank fucking God, as he should. I hope he suffered every moment of it. Yeah, but he lived until age 78, that fucker. He died in California in 2002 at 78 against, again, a lengthy illness, I have no fucking idea. But like, fuck you, you got to live until you were 78, and like, poor sweet baby angel Terry. but he was officially named as her killer on August 28th of 2023. Wow. That is crazy. Yeah, the district attorney's office, obviously, like, went above and beyond thanking police for their efforts, especially the state police, because they essentially solved the case. the DA, like, reached out to all of Terri's family, who actually recently visited where her body was found. Terri's son, who, Richard, who is now 64 years old, was among the family members who visited the site. Richard had actually connected with Terry's family after he completed a DNA, a DNA test in 2018. So, like, he knew he had a mom that had gone missing, but he didn't know, obviously. and so in 2018, he gathered with the family and all that stuff. So when they found out, they all went together to the site. he said that he approached her grave and said he loved her. And he said that everything in that moment set in and it truly broke his heart. Oh no. Yeah, so imagine finding out one, in 2018, that you have a family, your mom is missing, and then in 2023 you find out that she is dead, and then she was killed, and you find out where, and you can get all that information all at once. Like, that is such a whirlwind of information. That's so much to process. That's what I'm saying. That's so much grief that comes out of nowhere and then hits you like a ton of bricks at one time after so much time has passed. That is, I hope he has a wonderful therapist. Me too. Hope Rick keeps doing well, dog. Some of her remains days down in P Town, while some were buried with her mother in Tennessee who of course obviously passed away without knowing what happened to her daughter, which makes me. So upset. Yeah. Awful. her son also brought some of her ashes back home with him, but he also scattered some of them on the beach where her body was found. And I am happy that some of her family did get some form of peace, but like, yeah, fuck her goddamn stupid husband who got to live freely for so many years after she passed when she had no peace at all. And just for him to keep getting arrested and just keep getting off, like no justice was served for him. None. Yeah. And she was, she was the lady of the dunes for 50 fucking years. She was, didn't even have a name or a face. Yeah. Because of that asshole. Ugh. Ew. Yeah. And so that is the story of the oldest cold case in Massachusetts history, the Lady of the Dunes. That was so good, Colleen. Was it? I didn't know. I knew the, yeah. I didn't know her story. I just knew that there was a cold case and they identified her more recently, but I, I didn't know any of that. That is wild. Yeah. It was kind of crazy. I spiraled. So. And now I'm here. Well, great job. Thanks so much. Do you want to hear some positive stories of the week? I'd so. I'd so. I'd so. Okay. Well, first of all, Ann Rule is Oh, yeah. Who is that? So she wrote a book called The Stranger Beside Me. She knew Ted Bundy. Okay. Like, they were not buddies, but they worked alongside each other, and the whole book is about how she knew him before he got arrested and never suspected anything. I think even at one point, they know his car, and they know his name is Ted, and she still didn't think it was him. Interesting. And it's about, obviously, how Psychopaths are interesting. No, I actually, she's famous. Yeah. So she, everybody, you know, if you, if you listen to true crime and rules, uh, she's a bad name. Okay. So first and foremost, uh, the snow plow naming competition. Got kicked off in Minnesota and we've got some good ones. Here are the names that won. This is the class of 2024 Taylor drift. Oh wow. Nothing. Okay. Clark W. Bliswald. No, I like that one. Dolly Plowton. Ooh, that might be the best one so far. there's like a Wapahinti or something like that and it's just Dakota for a snowplow. So we're gonna skip that. Beyont Slay. Is slay like a sleigh? Yes. Like S L E I G H? Yes. Is that how you spell that? Yep. S L E I G H. Yeah. You're Killing Me Squalls. Fast. Fast and the flurriest. Like a flurry. Oh, I get it. Okay. I'm slow today. Wow. In Barbie's Dream Plow. Okay, that's good. Some, some, uh, runner ups where I came, I thaw, I conquer. I don't do well with the lisps. Oh, Snow, you didn't. That's very you. Uh, don't be flurry, be happy. Every day I'm, every day I'm shoveling. Oh, for fleets, or, no wait. Oh, for sleet's sake. Wow, I can't even fucking say that one. Yeah, who let the plows out? You know, just some classics. Okay, I'm here for it. Why can't they should do that everywhere? Okay, so another quick update on a mystery that I really okay, so it's not confirmed. So don't get your hopes up. Okay. But they think They found Amelia Earhart's plane. Wait, what? So, I got this from Good News Network. It's by Andy Corbly, who I've read so many articles of his at this point. So, this is part of the article. The mystery behind the disappearance of Amelia Earhart over the Pacific Ocean has fascinated people for years. But after a recent deep sea sonar survey, some closure to the final chapter of her life may be forthcoming. Eighty seven years after her disappearance, Deep Sea Vision, an ocean exploration company based in Charleston, South Carolina, claims to have found something that could be the wreckage of her plane. So it's six thousand feet below the sea. they basically said It's along her path. they used the sonar and there's a picture that it looks like a fucking plane. Like, it does look like a plane. I mean, who knows? But they made an announcement on Instagram that they're looking into it and they said they scanned more than 5, 200 square miles of the ocean floor with a 16 person crew in that they used, like, the most advanced technology ever done before. And they found what they think is the legendary Amelia Earhart's plane. So, we're gonna keep you posted, but it's, I mean, it's in the area that they thought she went down. It looks like a plane. I mean, we'll, we'll have to wait and see. And they said if it is, they're gonna donate it to the Smithsonian Institute so it can go on exhibit at the Museum of American History. Oh my god. I mean, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it must be a duck! Ha ha ha ha! One guy said, quote, we always felt that Earhart would have made every attempt to land the aircraft gently on the water. The sonar image suggests that may be the case. Yeah. So we'll see. Yes. So we shall see. But 87 years later, we might have an answer. Look at us digging up all these cold cases. Look at us go. And then another oldie, but a goodie. Tracy Chapman is the first black woman in history to have the sole song right credit on a number one country hit when Luke Combs covered her song fast car and it hit the top of the chart last year and it is back on the top of the chart since they sang it together at the Grammys so yeah pop off fucking Tracy Chapman getting her goddamn do as she should And she sounded incredible. She sounded exactly like, hearing it on the radio. It was great. Love that for her. All right. That's all I got. You got anything else? No, that's all I got. Yay! So unhinged, as always, everybody. but we hope you have a wonderful week. I hope you have more brain cells than I do. Pray for me. Pray for Colleen because we always need to be praying for Colleen. And, uh, love you mean it. Love ya, mean it. Bye!

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