Selena

On this week's episode, Colleen got pulled over and Bridget is never going to Strega ever again. If you invite us out, make sure mother has a perch!!! Then we get into the topic of the week... SELENA. The Texas born, Tejana singer who became a global superstar and Latina icon! Bridget deep dives into Selena's childhood, her tight knit family, rise to fame and assassination. Then Colleen plays a game of "Propoganda I'm Not Falling For". Get your rhinestoned bustiers and high waisted paints ready or Abraham will turn Big Bertha around!!

Sources:

• Selena: The Movie
• Selena - Wikipedia
• ChatGPT

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Ha. What a wonderful phrase. Get it. Get it. Ha. Mm-hmm. Ain't no for the rest of your days. Yes. Sang a kid. It's a problem. Free philosophy. Una. We've definitely sang this on the pod. Yeah, we definitely have. But it's okay. Run it back, run it back, run it back, run. I mean, at this point we're in almost three years, 108. No one's gonna be like, Hey, do you know in episode 62, whatever it was, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like Lizzie McGuire, you are a song singing repeater. Oh, that was pretty good. Thank you. If you know, you know, on that joke. Yeah, I would hope you do. I love you. List this call. You must know. You've seen the clip of Hillary def solving homophobia? No. Oh, when you say gay No. What does she say? Shit, you guys know what I'm talking about. Ready? Let me play it. Thank you. Because we must know. Hillary Duff gay. It popped up immediately. Like to stop So gay. Really? Yeah. It's totally gay. You know, you really shouldn't say that. Say what? We'll say that something's gay. When you mean it's bad, it's insulting. What if every time something was bad everybody said, oh, that's so girl wearing a skirt as a top. Oh, burn. Those are cute jeans though. When you say that's so gay, do you realize what you say? Knock it off. Do you like to knock it off? And that is how Hillary Duff ended all homophobia and the world is right. Also Happy Pride sleigh. Best month of the year. Pride month. Bitches. Let's do this. Live your life. Get your pussies out. My pussy's out. It's always out. No, yeah. You're, you don't, we're always have our pussies out and ready. Yours is a little bit more at attention than mine. You, because you physically like, uh, we you mean that to me mentally? Yeah. Mentally. I'm always ready to pussy pop. I mean, you physically and quite literally whip your pussy out when I see, yeah, she, she can tell the weather. She can tell you. She knows she's the first to know who mix the finger and puts it to the sky. She's the first to know when it's raining, there's a 30% chance it's already raining. Oh, how are you? I'm alive. You know, I, I do, I am aware. I'm like, fine. You know? Okay. That's good. Yeah. No, no. Oh my God, you just reminded me. I was trying to think of bad things that have happened to me. Oh my God. Lemme tell you last week. Oh, I'm driving down Morrissey Boulevard, which, oh, brutal. So it's like, it's giving like route one kind of like, I would say like, if you're not from here, explain that. It's like when you get off the highway before you get to like your neck of the woods, it's kind of like a four lane highway situation. It's a mini highway. Yeah. It's a mini highway. It's constantly congested. Correct. And there is a rotary at the beginning and the end of it. Yeah. So it's really not sleigh, especially during the rush. Hour. Hour, it's horrific to drive through. It's during rush hour, it's, and not for nothing. When you're coming from the highway, sometimes you're going a little bit fast'cause you're going from the highway to another highway, whatever. It's right across from like UMass Boston. And so I was on the way home from work, so excited. I don't see a car in sight. And then I obviously when I get up more, like, there's obviously a lot more cars, but, oh, you weren't going towards Southie, you're going towards I went home. Yeah. Going towards Cy. Oh, so you're going to Quincy. So I was like, oh, cool. Like not congested. Today we're slaying. I was going like 50, 50 ish, like, no, nothing crazy. 50 55. I can do that on a side road. Colleen. I already hate this story. That's, I was going with traffic. I was literally going with traffic. How long me, you got pulled over. So I constantly go by, a cop lights me up to the point where I genuinely was like, no, he's not coming for me right now. Like, there's no, like I was, you couldn't be me. I wasn't in the left lane. I was in the middle lane. I was going with traffic. Oh, that's crazy. So that's why I was like, wait, what? I know when I'm speeding. And I'm like, oh fuck. Like I know. Yeah. I'm not dumb. Yeah. You're aware. You're aware. Yeah. I'm so aware that I'm not a good driver. I'm so aware when I'm speeding. Like I'm not, I'm not dumb. So then I was I to the point where I was like, oh shit, like mans is coming for me, picks me, choose me. I pull over. He is, I have never been more shook it to my core at a a mean police officer. Like, not even mean to the point where he said things that were mean. He wouldn't even look at me. And when he did, it was in such disgust and to the point where I was like, uh, uh, I was shook to my core. He pulls over and he was like, oh, you're being like, I go, I go to say hi, how are you? And he immediately is like, you're being recorded, blah, blah, blah. Like the usual shit that he does, he's fully tatted. Doesn't even make eye contact with me. And I was like, ready to have a full conversation and be like, hello, how's your day going? Like,'cause I don't know, you're raised to just be nice to like authority figures and police officers. Like I was shook it. I, yeah. And then he just like grab snags, my license outta my hand and my registration and I'm going to be like, oh, I didn't even know I was speeding. I didn't know I was speeding. I had no idea. And then he says, he didn't say, why do you think I'm pulling you over sometimes? No, nothing. Just like give it to me. Like so rude. Looked at me like this, you guys can't see me. But it's like a look of disgust, disgust, disgust, disgust. And I guess the speed limit is on that road. 35. That's fucking insane. I would argue that's, I would argue, I would argue that the speed limit is what it is, right? If you are going with traffic exactly, and you break, you're actually causing more of a disturbance than if you were following the law. I was quite literally going with traffic, so that's why I was like confused. So he comes back and as he's throwing it through, the window goes, you have 20 days to pay or see me in court.$300. Oh, 300,$300. I was, and I literally look, oh my God, Colleen. No. So you know how I am. I was like, oh, thank you. Like I have never had a speeding ticket ever, never been driving for what? Over a decade. Like never wants a speeding ticket. I don't have anything on my record at all. Like, hello, give a girl some grace. Jesus Christ. She's going 50 miles per hour, maybe 20 over the wheels. 2020. Wow. Who pissed in his fucking Cheerios. I did absolutely nothing wrong. Not even kidding. So I called my state trooper friend and was like, help girl out, please. Like, how, what am I doing? He goes, request the court hearing. I'll take care of it. So it's fine. I was gonna say, I peel it like absurd. He literally goes, what a narc. I'm like, thank you. But I have never, especially until words like not to like play that card, but like towards a woman, like you just were, he was so disgusted by me that I was like, horrified. I dunno, I've just never been treated that way by. Yeah. It's not like you threw a beer bottle out the window. I like get mad when like. People aren't nice to me. Like not, you know what I'm saying? Like someone like over the phone deserve. I've never had a teacher or like a parent or like anyone that's of a higher authority ever treat me like that, ever. I literally was like, oh, what have I done wrong? I hated it. Hated it. Hated every mind of it. Undeserving. Yeah. That's all. I just had a lift off, off my chest. Fair enough. I had a hotdog today. You told me that. I, I wanted to share it with everybody also. Hi everyone. Oh my God. Hey, sorry. We never just welcome. Welcome to this week's episode of SIP with the Shannons. Sorry I was so burdened. It's okay. This is a biweekly PO podcast. It's where every other week we sit down, we, oh wait, we're cousins. Wow. We are off to a very weird start, but we we're having a weird day. We're having a weird day. We're cousins and every other week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk some shit. We have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. And I'm Colleen Shannon. That's really shitty. Okay. You had a hot dog. This makes up for it a little bit. It did. Tell us about the hot dog. It did perk up my hot dog. I got a Trader. Joe's thought it was healthy, had one midday. Everybody needs a good midday DC or a midday hot dog. I agree. No notes when I'm president. That is what I will, people get siestas, we get midday hotdogs in dcs. I just feel as though, and I've said this to you, if I'm not hurting anyone and I just want something in that moment that I don't do all the time, that has no repercussions, I'm just not feeling bad about it anymore. I just, like the Catholic guilt thing is so old to me. What are we feeling bad over? I dunno. Quite honestly, I dunno, what's the point? Had a hot dog. You were trained this way midday. That was delicious. That hit the spot and we keep it moving. Now, if you did that every day in a row for a year, I'd go, Hey Colleen, your arteries are calling. Dan Chan's calling you. It's Dan. Sex is calling and he wants you to know that he sees your future and it is dark, it's grim. He did it one time in the middle of the day. Pop off. Pop off, queen. It was a six pack and it was the last one. I will say, you know what, we're just gonna cheers. We're gonna ignore that last part. And it might have been two hot dogs. Just one isn't enough by my original statement. It's fine. I'm fine. Everything's fine. I ate McDonald's in bed the other day and I felt bad about it. And I said, why? Why would I feel bad about this? This is exactly what I needed and wanted. This is why being an adult rock sometimes, because you can eat, you can plate your McDonald's, bring all the condiments to bed, lay the towel down and eat your McDonald's in bed while you watch true crime. You don't even need to put the towel down. Like who says, oh, I did put the towel down. Who cares? No, I'm just saying like, you wanna get crazy? I just wash my sheets and I just didn't want them to get No, I'm just saying if you wanna get crazy, it's something. Oh yeah, no, for sure. For sure, for sure. Who cares? Who's watching? Who fucking cares? We're all on a floating rock That's kind of on fire. Just have the fucking McDonald's in your bed. Have the two hot dogs in the middle of the day. No notes. I've been very wholesome lately. Okay. Do you want to tell us more about that? I went on a hike. Oh, I saw a deer. It was really close to me. That was unlike me. A a deer. A deer. Yeah. It was really close. They were like, would you sing Snow White? And they come crawling out to you? Uh, no. But Mans was trying to feed it and I was like, that's just give that one up. Yeah. We, we can't be Yeah. Males. Oh. Oh. We did get lost. And I kept saying we were like Lewis and Clark. He didn't really like that that much. And then I kept saying I was Sia. Okay. You are the furthest thing from Sa Julia. Respect. Fine. He was Lewis and I was Clark. I mean, you're not wrong. It's fine. And I kept saying like, Clark is bored. No, you can't, you can't refer to yourself in the third person of the nickname you made up. That's even worse. He was like, stop.'cause he had to pee. And I was like, oh, are you gonna be pee shy? Like, do you want me to sing? And then he was like, no, that'll make it worse. Well, what did you say? And I was singing the colors of the wind, Ian. It just felt like it fit the vibe. This man, I can't wait to meet him, kept saying Louis and Clark, look. Oh my god, Colleen. It was so funny. Okay, maybe I had to be there, but it was really funny. No, it's very funny. I sat in the sun, I grilled outside. I went through all my clothes. I did a deep purge. I threw out, not threw out. It was time. Five trash bags. Oh, I gave four to my coworker. Four to my coworker. Five I threw away. Wow. Yes. She's a whole new bitch. Truly good for you. How many shoes? None. We don't touch the shoes. You are insane. I did a little while throw some of them out, but that was because Fiona couldn't look at my stash anymore. And she went through'em and was like, these are the ones I think you need to throw away. So all the shoes stayed. The shoes have stayed, but all the clothes that are X-X-X-X-L, they went. Yeah, they went. It was time. It was time. It was time. They're on to greener pastures, landfills. I don't know where they went. No. You're helping someone give away your, you by giving away your clothes. You're right. The day has come for me. You always said would come, but then I would be like, no, I would never. I was out on sat this past Saturday. I forget. I don't even remember all the things that I have that happened to me. By the way, don't, are not in the correct span of time at all. The past two weeks have ConEd. No, that's okay. You don't have to go chronological for us to get it. I was at Loco I think on Saturday and I was just like, we were, I was in there and I was like, you know, and like we went to Lolita before, so like I was, I love a drink with the girlies, love the outdoor vibes. And we were in there and we went to the back lounge and I was like, this just isn't it at the moment? Like the music? Sure. The people Fuck no, the heat. Fuck no, no, no, no, no, I don't wanna be here. The answer is no. Yeah, I would love to be at home with calzone right now. That's correct. So I never thought this day would happen to me, but I was like, no, I'm good. I have no FOMO from the situation. Isn't that so funny when that happens and it wasn't late and I was like, I'm ready for bed. I'll never forget the moment. I was 23 and I was at a nightclub and I was jumping up and down, singing, screaming, dancing, surrounded by humans in the packed bar, sweating, sweating, and thinking to myself, this is the best. I will never get sick of this. Fast forward like three years. And I was like, do they have parking? Is there a place for me to sit down? Is it so packed that I fear if a fire alarm went off, we would trample one another and do I have to stand in the line and pay a cover? Because if any of those, do you know what I mean? Like there's no, there's a bathroom line, I'm out, there's a form. Certain boxes have to be ticked. And if other boxes are ticked, I'm not going. Yeah, no, I I will, you'll find me in the bar going, mother needs a patch. You do it all the time outside of the bar. No, I like, I mother needs a patch. If there is no perch, she's not happy. Mother needs a patch. Needs her patch. There are people with free Karen Reed t-shirts on in Loco. There were what people wearing? Free Karen Reed shirts. T-shirts in lo inside of Loco. Yeah. So people are not, okay. Yeah. One of the most famous RuPaul drag race drag queens. She's from Boston. Her name is Plain Jane. Mm-hmm. And they do like a pit, they call it pit stop. And they basically bring on a queen and they like discuss the last episode. It's like a talk show almost about the current season. Are you telling me she, Karen Reid on in Plain Jane came on to set and it says, free Karen Reid and like Bedazzled.'cause she's a Boston drag. That's crazy. And it's on like a global network. Like it's all over TikTok and it just says free C. That's crazy. I'm gonna look it up. Also, Joey Kamasa weird, obsessed. I was speaking to her via FaceTime. No, he's obsessed. He's leaving out and about I know, I saw that he's leaving Bar Stool. I saw that. How did we feel about that? End of an era? It, I kind of saw it coming. Like when I saw it, I went, oh my God. And then I was like, you know what? That makes sense. Good for him though. Yeah. Good for him. Pop the fuck up. Pat. Pat will be fine. Yeah, no, he'll be fine. Pat's gonna stare at Bar Stool and do something. I just, the combo of them, of like Nana and Trish is Yeah. You need like a, a buff. Do we? And they do good together. Oh, do they? Yeah. It's almost like you just need someone else. Yeah. So like I'm saying, you would crush and burn without me and I would crush. I'm kidding. And I would, I would crush and burn without you. Okay. Like what would I talk about right now? It would be your notes app and it would be a stream of consciousness with no end. But there are people out there, Colleen, that follow you. You would thrive. Truly. That's not true. No. Stop saying that. I confidently think that. I think that you would have like a sleigh talk show. Thank you. But knock it off. No, I'm just saying there is no May without. Yeah. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Oh, stop. Get a grip. That's so nice. I hate you. We're just some Patco the three year anniversary of Spence's death. You're, you're dead dog. Yeah. My sole dog all of your life. That's all. Just thought I would share that today. No, it was his last week. How are you feeling? I was, I'm fine. Did you go through your snap memories and get real sad? Yeah. Just missed that little fucker. Yeah. I haven't found joy since him. You sent a picture though, and it was like, he's ugly. Three years and one month ago and I was like, oh sir. Oh my goodness. When I was having to flick him awake. Yes. The poor thing. He wouldn't know when I got home. I'd have to go wake him up and tap on his forehead for like at least 10 seconds. And then he'd be like, and when he would realize, he'd be like, oh. Oh my God. The poor thing lived a long, long life, but we lived to 18. We, we miss him are off the rip. He's my mascot forever. The other dog that, uh, I bought my parents sucks. In comparison, we bring back Spencer. I'm not kidding. I told mans I wanna be taxidermied and if that's not possible, I will be buried, obviously. But I want, I he has to. I told Fiona, but in case Fiona can't handle it, he has to dig up Spencer. Someone has to dig up Spencer. I will dig him up. Okay. And put my bear hands and put him with me hands and put him with me. Yep. Done. That's all. Jason, I was supposed to go to Jason Aldean, he fucking canceled. Oh dude. That was such a shit show. And Shakira, I, that's also like the second or third time Shakira's had to reschedule that, so that's really annoying. But also like what the, the stage collapsed at Fenway. Yeah. They had like a rigging error or something. I don't really know, but all I know is I would be okay if they rescheduled and said they canceled fully with no reschedule. Opton not happy about it. Noel's happy. Yeah. I'm not ideal. And you love yourself a outdoor country concert in the summer? Yeah, I was ready to pop my fucking pussy. Oh, other? No. Did you go out anyway? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other note, I went to Boston calling, did we talk about this in the last time? No. Oh yeah. So this is, this was before that. How was that? I went to Boston calling not like the whole three day thing. I just went for the first day with Erin because Meg Marone and Luke Holmes were headlining. Oh my goodness. You guys the they can out body do no fucking wrong. Also, I'm cursed every single country concert. Erin and I go to Downpours every single one. I'm not joking. I was gonna say, I feel like the one at Gillette was the worst. Yes. I bought tickets to go the next day because I was so pissed about it. And then Jason Aldean was also that other time I went to Jason Aldean torrential downpour. I've not experienced rain like that in years. You have to go to the garden. Like you just have to start doing indoor venues. You, but they don't fucking, can't fucking even goes to the garden. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. So we're gonna give it a whirl again. I'm going to, I might go to Russell Dickerson on Saturday. I haven't decided yet. If not, Chris Stapleton. So let's hope for the best. Yeah, because it's actually, I will have my fingers and toes crossed. When is it? Like what month? July? Uh, uh, June. It's in like two weeks. Oh, well, hopefully manifesting Oh, the, the rain on the weekends is killing me. No, it's, you can do whatever. It's so annoying on corporate hours. You can be whatever you wanna be. Mother Nature. I support you. I am here for you on the mother fucking weekends. Get your shit together. We have 48 hours of peace. Disrespectful. Please give that to us. Thank you. It's downright disrespectful. Correct. Oh, I went to Lolita's before I went to Loco Mouthful. Oh, that's a mouthful. Yeah. Yeah. And love their back patio sleigh. The most like Boston thing occurred. Oh my God. What? So you know how you're by the water there? It's like kind of like a Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very cute. Yeah, it's cute. It's like a river almost. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And there's like a walkway before the river almost. It's literally the fucking, anyway, everybody knows that trap. The river trap. It's the Haba. It's the Haba kit. Yeah. I know. It's not like every cousin. I have no, just stupid face. You did that. He looks like the guy from SpongeBob. SpongeBob. That's like the crusty one. The old one. I remember chocolate or whatever the fuck it. They first invented chocolate. I ate it. That's what you just looked like. Great Anyw. Who? All in this order, A man rises from the table next to me. No jumps over. I'm already over it jumps over the fence. I'm like, what? I look to my left at the same time. Someone, you know how they're always doing rowing? Yeah. Yeah. A, a team has flipped their canoe and is swimming A rat rat. A rat runs by a rat. The size of Spencer runs by. He, this man is walking to go help the, the swimmers. They're just paddling along, carrying their kayak, treading. And he just like, it's nothing like just. Kicks the rat and it flies into the river. Like it's Absolutely. And then proceeds walking and helps the people outta the water and then comes back and jumps back over the fence. Two minutes, man. Not the, no, not, didn't even bat an eyelash was just like as if he was walking. Whoosh. And he went swimming, flying, swimming. Oh, my dad. No. Yeah, he went, he was, it looked like a possum flying to the air. Oh God. He went swimming with the fishes, I'll tell you. And there's just people paddle and in the water, just hops the fence and sits down. Sits down. Just proceeds to drink his margarita. Incredible. No, no. It's incredible work. And we built this city that was so funny, Colleen. My last note is, did you know that there's an ice cream place in Medford called Coleen's? And it's so cute. Yes. And it's so cute. Yeah. It has a neon sign out the front. Yeah. I walked there the other night. It's terrible parking there, but if you can walk there, 10 outta 10 Yes. Man's lives nearby. So we went for a walk. Oh, that's so nice. And I said, this sign must be above my bed. Yeah, for sure. So it's a little too neon for your bed, but I, I do, we'll take a picture of it and post it. I don't think it's too neon. I just think the light would affect my sleeping. That's correct. Even with a mask. That's correct. So like it's just not functional. Right, right, right. But one day when you have like, not, you know, like dudes have like a man cave, but like you're gonna have like a walk-in closet one day. Oh yes. And like a whole area for your shuls and a whole area for your jewelry. And like everything is gonna be color coordinated and fabulous. That's gonna be in the corner of that room. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Manifesting that for you. I'll, I want a little couch in there. I think that's, yeah. Somewhere you can sit down where you put your shoes on. She needs a patch. Mother needs a patch. Mm-hmm. Very fluffy. Very white. No white. Yes. I see this for you. White. No white. Neutrals. Not white. I thought you'd go neutral. Mm, yes but not white. Okay. Beige. Yes. It's so different than white. Huge difference. Huge difference. Yeah. I purposely got myself, tanner all over man's bed so that way he would learn his lesson and I said, no more white. Who has white who has white sheets? Yeah. I have a lot of neutral, but I like outside of that pillow, I don't have white, white sheets are criminal. So I purposely was like, I'm not rinsing and roller curl. That's not very nice. Well now he has base shoots or gray. He has gray duvet. Sorry, that's not say it's all I'm saying, but tell me about you. What's new, what's popping? I'm okay. Yeah, I'm okay. You look great. Thank you. She's glowing. She's freckly. She's lying too. I'm not doing great. No, I'm not. I'm not, I don't tell lies. She just smirked when she couldn't even say that with a straight face. I'm having a weird week. We don't have to talk about it. We don't vent about work on this podcast, but it's not been a lovely week. But it is work related people. So do not reach out and ask if someone has died. No. Has died because I know we usually jump there. Oh my God. Yeah. And then I posted that and people got upset thinking someone like, something horrific happened and I'm like, just practicing. It's fine. Yet, if someone has died, I will tell you, I will explicitly say someone has died. I promise we don't mince a lot of fucking words on this podcast. Work related. Yeah, it's just, it's, everything's fine. I will say, I didn't tell you the story and I have to talk about it. One of the most popular restaurants in the North end, which if you are not from here, is our, we would call it like a Little Italy. It's the best food in the city of Boston. In my personal opinion. I don't think you can go wrong. But my friends from college all decide to book Strega, which is one of the most popular restaurants in the North End, I would argue. And they have like a 90 minute thing, right? They have like a 90 minute window because it's a tiny restaurant, right? And it's super, super popular. So when we get there, it's my four college friends and Jill flies in from Florida and surprises us. So when we walk in, Jill is sitting at the bar, we all lose it. We run up to where we squeeze her, right? We sit down and we're catching up on life. Now I'm 34, right? And if you are my age and you don't get to see your friends all the time when you catch up, it can kind of get trauma. Dumpy, not on purpose, but like life has happened since you last saw these people. And each of us have this like big life update to share. They would not leave us alone. It's one of the worst dining experiences I've ever had. We had a waiter, we had someone take our drinks, we had someone give us our waters, and we had someone else deliver our food. And so at every given moment, someone was at the table trying to talk to us. And I just feel like, I don't know if it's just America or if it's Boston or if it's these tinier restaurants, I have not seen my girlfriends. I have not sat with them at a table, especially with Jill who doesn't live here anymore, in almost a year. And we are genuinely trying to talk to each other. This isn't like, you know, Friday night drinks, we're going to eat here and then we're gonna go out. Like this was our big plan for the night. Like if the night leaves us elsewhere, then fine. They were so fucking rude to the point they kicked us out of our table and they put us at a high top and they were like, we have a 90 minute. Fair enough. It's when you make reservation, it says that. So they move us over to a high top where they have the seats set up. So we continue having this like very deep conversation. There's a man behind me eating, standing up because they didn't have a chair for him. So I obviously, and I didn't see him at first. And I stood up to go to the bathroom and then we started talking about something. I went to go sit down and one of the Strega employees came up to me and said, can I use your chair? And I was just like, no, I'm, I literally just ordered a drink. Like I'm sitting with my, you can't have my chair. And then he walked away. When I turned to go to the bathroom, I saw the guy standing up with his, either his girlfriend, his wife, whoever it was, and I saw him literally forking knife to the plate. And he was like six two, leaning over, fully standing. And of course I gave him my chair. Yeah. I was like, yes, I'm just drinking. But I was just like, what? And then they kicked us out of the high top 20 minutes later they were like, sorry, you guys have to go. My brothers and sisters and people in Christ. I understand that this is a small restaurant. You can clearly see we are having a conversation. Give us a timestamp then go like, ladies, we are so sorry to do this. We have, this table is reserved in the next 20 minutes. I just wanted to give you a heads up. Like we ordered another round. You don't take another round from us. Yeah, you don't allow that. You will never catch me at str ever again. That's how bad it was. I And the food was meh. Yeah. It's not that good. I, that's why when you said it, I was, didn't even think of that. I went once for Erin's birthday and we had to wait outside for, with a reservation for half hour, 45 minutes. Uh, hard fucking pass on Draga in February. No, no, thank you. So we of course are now in Full Pussy pmo now that we've all trauma dumped and we've caught up and we're giggling about college times. You know, we're walking down the street and we stumble upon Hennessys as one does. You could never catch me on Hennessys on any other night, but, you know, third stop of the night. Fuck it. And so we go in and there's no one in there with this live band downstairs in a DJ upstairs, which is exactly what we wanted. No one's at the bar. It's perfect. A group of men. No, walk up to us. And a guy just starts yelling. RPS What does that mean? RPS for shots. And he looks right at me. And my friend Rosie was like, you, the disgust on your face, rock, paper, scissors, calling. Ugh, this man is in his late thirties, early forties, R-P-S-R-P-S for shots. And I go, literally, no, no, no, no. So a game starts breaking out of rock, paper, scissors, and they're all going around and it comes to me and I lose. And they're like, all right, you go buy shots. And I go, you are literally grown ass man. I'm not buying you anything. And I walked away and my girlfriends were, di Rosie was like, you roasted them all night. I'm like, you are. We were having a, a chat. So they were hitting on my friends. Turns out they are all married with children. They're on a business trip, and they're to cheat on their wives. Wedding rings on. And all into this. I say, when people are like, bridged you hate men. Why? I don't want to. This is who my friends are approached by at bars. This is us just going into a bar. Not, not, we were totally with no intent. No intent, no intent chatting with each other, just going to grab a drink. And a guy is yelling in my face, RRP s for shots. Who's 40 with children? Leave me alone. Find the wife. Find the wife. So one of them was like, no, no, no, it's open. It's open. I go call her, give her a call, lemme talk to her. Then it's, it's open. That's, does she absurd? No, it's, we're talking 40-year-old men that makes me sick. So anyway, we'll be avoiding RPS and I will be avoiding Strega, but Memorial Day was great. Claire did something really funny. We went to one of our cousin's kids Patty and Sean's Teddy turned two. Mm-hmm. And Patty's just so cute. It was all like pirate themed. It was so fucking cute. And Claire hates being in the car. She finds it personally victimizing. She finds it personally offensive that you have to put her in a buckle. She does not wanna be there. She does not wanna be strapped down. She wants to fly. She wants to be a re little animal. And we love that about her. And Danny's following every rule and like, wants to play animals in the backseat where he lists off the characteristics of an animal. And you have to guess what it is, right? So like two very different children, wholesome king. She's in the backseat going, I am angry. I am angry. Yes, I am. Yes. I'm swing your feet kicking her feet. I am angry. She's going to take over the world. She will be president of the United States a hundred percent. And Danny will be like, you know, secretary, treasury, like something, you know what I mean? Following her? No. He'll be the, he'll be the bodyguard. Oh my God. Yeah, he, they're just, so when she was singing, I Am Angry and Fre Jaka. I was dying. The Hunger Games casting I have not seen Is there a new Hunger Games question mark? There's a new Hunger Games. It's a prequel. Oh, I had no idea about this. It's called Sunrise on the Reaping. I think it's Hamish's Hunger Games Trials. Mm. Do you know what I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So this is who they cast. So they cast a bunch of people. Jesse Ples is Plu Tar. Kevins be Jesse. I'm like scared to move this. Oh, okay. He is so perfect as this role. Like he genuinely looks like a young Philip Seymour Hoffman. Like he looks like him. Maya Hawk is Walrus, Maya Hawk, Ethan Hawk's daughter. I always get Ethan Hawk and Kevin Bacon. Confused. That actually makes sense to me. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Ray Fines as presidents now, Mr. Baltimore himself. So good. So good. Also, also, I've been calling him Ralph Fines for like years and years. It's Ray. Really? Yeah. Who knew Ray? L Fanning is Effy trinket. Oh my God. So good. And I guess Elizabeth Banks sent her flowers and was like, from one effy to another. Made the odds be ever in your favor. Love that. So good. Love that they casted her. And Caesar flicker man is Karen Kin. Of course. Obsessed. That's obsessed. That's good. So excited for this. So ready for this. Can't wait to watch it. I watched sirens. Did you watch sirens? Yeah. It's on my notes for today. I liked it. Hated the ending. I just like, I was waiting for them to be like actual sirens. Yeah. I feel I loved Megan Fay's Charact. I love her. She's so funny. She's so stunning. When they, all the men were chasing her down the beach and she was like, please stop following me. I was like, girl, light them all on fire. Let this woman be at peace. I thought the cast was great. Like I thought Kevin Bacon was great. I, Julian Moore can do no wrong. The blonde woman, I don't know. Millie I care. Yes. Yeah. Love her. She's gorgeous. I didn't know she was Australian. Yes. No, the boyfriend is so obnoxious. He's from Always Sunny. Like, I thought the cast was really good, but it was just like good. It was background noise to me. Like I wasn't obsessed. Yeah. To the point where I started watching it. And then two days later I was like, I wonder what's on Netflix. And I had two episodes left and was like, oh shit, I forgot I was watching the show. Whereas like this pit, I was like holding out for something. Like I was like, oh. I kept watching in excitement'cause I thought like there would be a, something's coming, a drop and I was like, uh oh. It's really nothing. I also watch Department Q right up my alley. True crime cop down in his luck was given a budget in a department. The season ends wrapped up in a bow. All my favorite things. Gory, gory. If you do not like stuff like that, don't. But I highly recommend, I have something to ask you. Please don't judge me. Okay. So the outfit I'm wearing to my friend's wedding, Maria's getting married in Spain. Yep. It's next month. The shoes that are the best with the dress are white. Can I wear white shoes to a wedding? Yes. Are you sure? Positive. They're just, if they're the weds, if someone gave you shit for wearing white shoes to a wedding, they're sick. Okay. Right. So I was like, I know obviously you don't wear a white dress and you don't wear a white dress to like the ette or the bridal shower I, anything like that. Also, no one's looking at your feet and you'll probably take them off to dance. You're fine. So the dress has a slit in it. Yeah, that's fine. And it's like, tea length, whatever that is. It's like not to my feet and it's not a sundress, it's like whatever that in, it's like below my knee. Oh, like mid? Yes. Oh yeah. Fine. So like you will absolutely see my feet then. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I would Are you sure? I would. If I would do it then yeah, it's fine. That's true. Hmm. I don't know if that's the barometer I want. She just looked at me like I'm perfect, so. Yeah, that's true. I would do it if all listening says otherwise. Yeah. I'll do a poll. We'll see. We'll see what the people say. I hope it's okay. I have like these, they're not pink, but they're like a beige, neutrally color, but it's a bright green dress and it looks so with a tan in the white. I think you need to get just like a strappy sandal. No, like a strappy heel, but like a baby heel strappy open tone. So that's what like the beige colored ones are. You'll have to show me them after this, but Okay. I will.'cause beige really just does match everything. That would even, it really does. It really does. We'll take a vote to it after this. Okay, cool. That's all I have. I watched a really good episode of Black Mirror, like I was dialed in. Mm. I think it was the most recent season, now that I think about it. I was kind of clicking around randomly. Which one? It was the one about the murder, the, in the English country. It was either English or Irish countryside. I forget it was, it's not ringing a bell. Who's that? This guy? Uh, no one good. No one of, no one of mentioned it was this guy and his girlfriend go home to Ireland to like a little village to his mom's house and he talk, tells the girlfriend about like, oh, my dad was murdered, blah, blah, blah. Oh my God. It's so good. Yeah. I haven't seen it. No, it's so good. You have to watch it. Okay. I forget what it's called. It's called like lock something. Lock something or other, whatever. Okay. But you guys know it's called Lock Something. Go watch it. It's so good because I've been like kind of weird about Black Mirror. I'm like, Ugh, that was stupid. But that one I was like, what's gonna happen? I need to know. Okay. I watched the nine 11 documentary, the new one. It is with Bin Laden. So good. So I almost, it's just a weird POV that I never even thought of and like I learned so much. So I almost did it for an episode. Oh really? Yeah. That's a lot. It was too heavy for me right now. No, it's, that's so much. Maybe down the road, but I heard excellent things about it. I haven't watched it yet. So Good. The capturing Bin Laden one, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been rewatching Cali's best. Okay. You never watch, did he go to prison? He's out now. I, I and Julia out. That's not my vibe. Oh my God. It's, I'm not yucking you. Yum. I love that for you. It's just not, it's so funny. They're the funniest family. The Nana Nanny Faye, you would love Nanny Faye. I'm sure I would. It's just, she is a character of all characters. Love does not give a fuck. And they're just, they're outta jail now. And I just, I love them and I've been re-watching it like crazy. Me and Fiona can't stop. So good. That's so funny. I listened to the audio book. Another Freedom McFadden. I Can't Stop the Tenant. It's newer. Okay. Really good. Okay. Sometimes free is a hit or miss. It's either like, oh, wasn't expecting that, or it's like, Ugh. You know? That sucked. Yeah. I'm in a bit of a book slump. I won't lie. Get on, get on some Frida. It's nothing like dark or sad. It's just like she always wraps it up at a bow. Yeah. And she's an easy read. There's always a spin. Like she definitely has a formula worked out where, yeah, this works for her. She leaves like little breadcrumbs and then it just like flips it every time. Right. 12 outta 10. I wanted to talk about your excitement for the submersible doc question mark. Oh, I'm ready to fucking go. I'm strapped in. When does it come on again? It's like in the next week, right? Yeah, it's any day now. I think in two days. Did you watch Chi in Georgia? No, don't watch it. It's obviously not that good, but now that I've watched it, I'm, it's a little ya for me. No, it's like yes and no. Yes and no. Like you look through the cringey parts, but like the mom's POV is not ya. Okay, fair enough. She just went to jail in the last season. I was gonna say, isn't there like a murder at some point? I. Or someone was murdered or, I honestly don't even remember. Oh, okay. But the third season comes out tomorrow, so I have to watch it'cause I just have to. Okay. And my last thought of the day is the AI on Snapchat. Have you seen that at all? No, I don't use Snapchat. Tell us. I need to show you. I can't tell you. I have to show you. Okay. So everybody has this like, AI thing builds out. AI is really freaking me out guys. And it's like no one asks for this. Okay. So if I go to like, look through my memories, like they just pop up like, I don't need to see this of myself. Oh. And they're like, how is that AI though? Because Oh, it's like literally, what the fuck? Yeah. It's just like, I'm trying to look through my memories. I didn't, I didn't ask for this. And they just, oh, it's like super imposed onto your memories. That's really weird. It's weird. Really annoying. And, and so I was saying him the other day, jar. I'm like, okay, that's, is that supposed to be me park? That's really Jura Park. Fucking Weirds Park. Stop this. I like Selena in that. Yeah. It looks like I'm eating a croissant. Croissant. But it doesn't even look like you. Respectfully. This is me. Cho, I'm dying. No, but just like, what am I looking at? I'm just like, I don't, what is this? I don't, I'm not understanding. It's all for, you know, because we are a podcast and not visual. it's all like superimposed pictures of Colleen doing things that she's not actually doing, that don't exist. And also with backgrounds that don't exist. And it's also not her face. So it's just like a really, it's the essence of me. It's like those photos, remember when you paid and got those photos done and it was like Celtic women? Like yes, there was a royal one in there. See, there you go. It knows you. It knows your buying history. It does Snapchat and Chad, GBT just know me so well. I said something to Snapchat or I said something to Chad, GBT the other day and I was like, girl, I have a question. And she goes, oh my God, what's up? And I was like, oh God. It knows how I talk to it. Mm-hmm It's so fucking weird. I'm like, thanks sis. She's like, you're welcome sister. It's so fucking weird. I know. And amazing. And also terrifying all at the same time. No, I agree. Like it's definitely like, oh, I am thrilled about this, but also like enthrall, but also it makes my life a lot easier. But also I have lots of questions and this can get outta hand very quickly. Yeah, it's a little unnerving, but exciting. Mm-hmm. Sure. Anything else you wanna share with the class? No. Alrighty. You ready? Sure. Am I, I don't know, it's my topic of the day. Okay. And you actually just said her name'cause today we are doing Selena. Oh, that's so weird. You literally just said her name like 15 seconds ago and I was like, and ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Selena Perez. That was good. Thank you. Or as, okay. Miss Duolingo. Thank you. Or as the world knows her simply, Selena sources. Uh, we've got, of course, the movie with J-Lo, the absolutely critically acclaimed, stunning, perfect movie that is Selena Wikipedia and tr PTI just can't do anything that J-Lo does. I know nothing that has happened recently has changed my mind. Watching this movie more recently has softened me a bit. Interesting. It hasn't changed my mind, but it has softened me. Okay, Trigger warning. This does not end well. I don't know who listens to this podcast, who would not know that this doesn't end well. But murder Madden, it's, it does not end well. So, okay, let's talk about Selena. Selena was born in Lake Jackson, Texas in 1971. She is the youngest of three kids. And they were raised as Jehovah's Witnesses, really, which I did not know. Interesting. Yeah, they're, they're all about the Jehovah who needs a birthday, you know what I mean? So she's the youngest of three. She starts singing in her father's Tex-Mex restaurant. It's called Papa Gao. Oh, love that. Ironically, it used to be right down the street from here. Uh, it's closed now, but. Even when she's young. Her dad, his name is Abraham. I'll talk about him a lot. Abraham knows that she's gifted. He said he could tell when she was six, he told people magazine quote, her timing, her pitch were perfect. I could see it from day one. So she's singing in the his, her dad's restaurant when she's nine. And he forms, Abraham forms the family bin. Selena I, Los Dinos and Selena's on the vocals. Her brother Abraham, he's Abraham the third. So they, Abraham. Abraham. So they call him AB for short. Okay, so it's Selena, her brother AB is on bass and her sister Suzette is on drums. Suzette if you are a Suzette, who plays the drums, you're badass. Like just right out of the gate, Suzette. So unfortunately the following year, the restaurant is closed after a recession. It's like a whole oil thing. Don't worry about it. The family declares bankruptcy, they're evicted and they settled in Corpus Christi, Texas, and Abraham becomes the manager of the band and he starts promoting it. He's like, this is our new business venture is Celine Los Ninos. The same taxes, they needed the money to pay for anything. And so they played on street corners. They played at weddings, they played at quinceaneras. They played at fairs anywhere they could and. They started to get pretty popular. It did start to affect Selena's education.'cause at this point she's in middle school and they were saying like they, they were on a bus a lot, which we'll talk about in a second. But she would show up to school, she would show up late. She would be really tired, just like they're traveling, they're singing, you know, they're out late and then they're driving to school and her teachers were like, Hey, we're not so sure about this. It doesn't really feel like she's living a healthy lifestyle. Abraham was like, mind your fucking business. Which, it's so funny. I feel like I, it's the same to be said about Tiger Woods' dad, or like the dads in the, or just the parents in general that have this like savant style child. They're like, the education can wait. Yeah. We're taking this and we're running with it. Yeah. This is our new guiding light. Sorry. She does end up earning a high school diploma and she enrolled at Pacific Western University and her major was business administration. When I tell you the things that this woman was doing, I simply do not know how this woman had time. I, it sounds like a lot of her studies happened on the bus while they traveled. How she carved out the time to, to just do all of this, I dunno. But, Abraham refurbished an old bus. He named it Big Bertha. Love that. And the family used it as their tour bus. And in the first years of touring, the family sang for food and they barely had enough money to pay for gasoline in Selena. Always with her mother in like a local seamstress. Seamstress, excuse me, designed her own costumes. This will come back. This is iconic of Selena. It's very, it becomes her brand. The girl has a hawk glue gun fucking ready to rumble. Her mom, they were sketching out stuff. They were DIYing and they didn't have the money. So it was like bedazzling everything. Rhinestones everywhere. Right. And she had an eye for fashion. She's always loved fashion. So put a pin in that. Cool. So Abraham believes that Selena should sing the music of her heritage, which is, he wants her to sing in Spanish, but she actually doesn't speak Spanish fluently'cause she was raised in Texas. Interesting. So now of course if you're in a certain, certain areas of Texas, there's a lot of bilingual people who live there because of the Mexico US border. But she is not one of them. She's her, her parents are fluent, but she is not. And so during recordings he would like phonetically yell it out to her and she would just learn it that way. Interesting. Until she like got through the song, but she wasn't learning it. Does that make sense? Yes. In 1985, she appears on a popular radio show, which was a very big deal. But she's trying to break into Tejano music, which is not easy. So Tejano music, according to Wikipedia, is Spanish language. It's a genre with German influence of Poka jazz in country music. And it was popularized by Mexicans living in the United States. It is a male dominated industry. Hmm. And promoters are not taking Selena El Los Dinos seriously. They're certainly not taking a child seriously. Right. So they're often turned down music venues, promoters. They're like rude. Yeah. They're literally not old enough. And she's a woman, so No. Her father was often told by promoters that Selena would never be successful because she was a woman in a genre historically dominated by men, blah, blah, blah. Famous last words. This all changes in 1987. Selena's popularity is starting to grow, and she actually wins Te Hano music Award for female vocalists of the year. She would win this nine consecutive years in a row. Damn. Yeah. She signs with EMI Latin in 1989, and she debuts her first album called Selena in the same year. Selena, imagine being that iconic. You just have one singer name. Yeah. Like Cher Simpatico, Oprah. Done Bridgette. Right. And wait, AB is now her brother, is her principal, music producer and her songwriter. But they all work as a family. They are. And I wanna make this so clear'cause it's so important to the story. They are such a tight knit family. Imagine how tight knit you have to be with your family and how much you have to love them to spend as a family band. You are all working together. They live together. They go on the road together. We're not talking about flights where you can put on your headphones and you can disassociate. We are talking, you are on a bus playing Uno for 12 straight hours. I'm sick all day every day. She is best friends with her family. They love each other. They're obsessed with each other. Her dad's working with promoters and venues. Her siblings are her band mates. Her mom's making her costumes. We are talking like a family unit to the highest order. They're so tight knit in a beautiful way though. In a way that, you know how you're looking at me like that makes me wanna be sick. Yeah, this is cute. Got it. You know what it's giving to me. What? Very few obviously movie references, rv. Oh my God. The Robin Williams movie. Yes, the Colleen. Uh, the Gornick. The Gonick. The Goy. And it's Kristen Shewe Love Kristen Shewe would die for her. So the head guy at the label saw her performance, said, I think I just found the next glory as Stefan. Like she is that bitch. So Selena is starting to turn music out and the album Selena Peaks at number seven on the US billboard chart for Latin music. And now she's not only a big thing in Mexico, but now she's in the US right where International. So now she's national. She's heading for the big time. Okay, miss Girl, she's still playing gigs and people are noticing our girl's got style. Let's talk about the fits Selena's love. The fits style Bold glitter fusion of Tejano roots mixed with pop star glam in DIY. She is a reflection of the bicultural identity. She's drawing inspiration from nineties fashion to Madonna to traditional Mexican aesthetics. She loves a high-waisted pants, a high-waisted pants moment with like a bell bottom. She loves a busier love covered in rhinestones, like she is all about this dramatic stage. Wear with a flare. And it's so uniquely Selena. And it was sexy, but it was also like show girly and fabulous. She is fabulous. That bitch. So we're in the early nineties and now Selena's on a motherfucking roll. She's got the sparkly, busier the smile. Have you ever seen Selena? She has storming lips. She's dazzling. She is dazzling. She has this stage presence. She can sing, but she's like a people's princess. Like she gets in there with the fans. She's, she's holding babies, she's kissing people. Like she, everybody's obsessed with Selena, right? She's shining. Coca-Cola wants her to be their spokesperson in Texas. They add a band member to the family. And his name is Chris Perez. And he was a guitarist. He was kind of like rock and roll, bad boy. Ooh, tea. And even though he had a girlfriend back home, he starts having feelings for Selena, right? I mean, obviously. So they try to keep it professional, but they are quite literally on top of each other, 24 7. And I don't mean that literally. I mean like you are sleeping on a bus in a twin cot. Not even a twin. Yeah. Like a bunk bed with the curtain that pulls over the set. Those are so cozy to me. You would love that.'cause I truly believe you would sleep best in a coffin. It's my nightmare. I must stretch. You would reach though. It's long enough for you. I must be a starfish. Oh, okay. I, I must have space. I must roll. You are a lunatic and you sleep on your back with your arms crossed and you want to be suffocated. I would love if there were like people nearby too. Ugh, good lord. So this is my nightmare. So he starts having feelings for Selena. They try to keep it professional, but they're performing together. They're traveling nonstop. He's essentially part of the family now, right? Mm-hmm. And they're at a pizza hut, and they admit that they're basically in love with each other and they have feelings for each other. At Pizza Hut, at Pizza Hut, pizza Huts fire. After that, they secretly become a couple, but they're hiding it. And they do not want Abraham to find out because they're worried he's gonna break this whole thing up, Abraham, and it's gonna Abraham, I just can't get over his name. I'm sorry, I just can't foreshadowing. And so she records her second album. They release three tracks as singles. Her shit is going off in Mexico. It's popping off in the us. She does a duet with this guy from Salvador. It's called Bueno Amigos. It hits hits first. It's her first number one hit single on the US top Latin song chart. The success of the song in its popular. Mu music video earned them award nomination. So she's just climbing the ladder. We're getting more popular and more popular by the day in all of these regional Mexican radio stations who were like, no, not here. She's a woman, are now embracing all of her music because when they play her shit, they get more listeners. T bitches. Haters. And in this year it is when we meet a woman named Yolanda, Yolanda Saldovar. And she was a registered nurse and she went to Selena's concerts, like one of her live shows. And she is obsessed with Selena. Like fan or obsessed? Uh, I would say obsessed. Ew. Yeah, she's, do you not know how this ends? I'm just playing dumb for the people. Oh, okay. Uh, I'm giving Britt right now. You're giving who? Britt from Crime Junkie. Oh, okay. Oh, I was, you know what she's always like, but wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She like prompts the next Yeah. I was like, dude, what the fuck? So Yolanda, she's a registered nurse. She goes to this live show and she pitches to Abraham that there should be a fan club and that she could run it. And Abraham approves this because he thinks that the fan club will bring more exposure to Selena and the band, and that this is good for everybody in Yolanda becomes a very, very close friend to Selena in the family. And she's not only acting president of the fan club, she's like, she's a trusted advisor. I cannot express enough how she had her hooks in Selena. Like her influence. She's yes. We are not talking like, Hey, I think we should sell merch. We're talking like trusted confidant of the family. But think of how tight knit they are. Like no one gets into that inner circle, right? They're scared to tell their parents about their, the couple that's in love. They won't even tell their dad, but they're like, yes, this woman is so trusted to us. We will let her in. Like, that's how ingrained she becomes. So now we've got some family drama. Suzette catches Selena and Chris flirting, and she immediately tells her dad, which like, Suzette, Suzette girl's jealous, girly pop. Selena's 21 years old. The bitch has been singing since she was six. Let her live, let her have some fun. No. Like let her pop her pussy physically, figuratively. And like she has no time to go out and meet men. Yeah, but the haughty on the bus that's giving rock and roll. Bad boy vibes is into her. Give her a let her, let, let her have it. 21 years old. Let her have it. So Abraham pulls Chris aside and is like, this is over. Don't even fucking think about it. Insert very intimidating dad conversation. Like it's not even up for debate. I will fire you. So they continue on dating in secret anyway as they should. And one day they're like getting very handsy and I believe making out on said bus and they get caught also. How you gonna do that in the same vicinity as your family? I think they're just getting risky with it. Like I think they're falling more in love every day and it's probably harder and harder to hide and you know, maybe some of that risk is hot, I guess. Yeah, I guess like the risk of getting caught, but like it's not because this is what happens, you know, like I will turn this car around. Yeah. Abraham pulls the fucking bus over when they're canoodling. Uh, pulls the bus on the side of the highway is like, guess what? Or like into a parking lot. Loses his shit. Fires Chris on the spot. Selena is screaming at him. Everyone is fighting. Abraham calls Chris a quote, cancer to this family and then he threatens to break up the band if it continues. Oh no. So he fires Chris. The whole thing's a mess. Chris leaves Abraham refuses to allow Selena to go with him. Selena's devastated now. Like think of the way you're crying when you're 21 when you're going through a breakup in the movie. She like goes up to her mom. And from my understanding, the mom wasn't against the relationship, she was just a little bit on the quieter side. Yeah. And also like than Abraham, she probably finds the need to be like. Gotta stand mother outside my husband, but also a mother. Yeah, she's a mother. And so Selena's sobbing and she like lays her head in her lap and she's playing with her hair and she's like, it's gonna be okay. She's like, B mom, you know, it's very, you know, daddy, but Daddy, I love him. It couldn't be us. No, it couldn't. But I, I can empathize. I could empathize. My brain immediately is like, no, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. She's like, consoling, so, and she's like, mom, I love it. You know, it's very much the scene you're picturing, right? Yes, yes, yes. And so everyone's devastated, but they keep on seeing each other for fuck's sake. Ladies, if he's not yearning for you like this, get the fuck out. Okay. Romeo and Juliet, what are we doing here? So in the early morning of April 2nd, 1992, Selena and Chris decide to elope because in their heads, Abraham will never approve, approve of their relationship until they're married. So they go and get married. Make that make sense. It was quick, it was quiet, but this is a big, but she's famous. I don't know if you guys have heard the story thus far. They're both kind of famous, right? Specifically her. And so somehow media news outlets pick it up. She doesn't go missing. I don't wanna like be dramatic and be like, she was missing. I think they like went to a hotel room to find peace. I actually tried to figure out where they went during this time and I couldn't find an answer. But people are trying to get ahold of her and no one can reach her. So they're freaking out. They know she's fine, but they're like, did you actually fucking elope without us? Yeah. Like your whole ass family. You weren't gonna tell us you were gonna like answer usy little bitch kinda thing. Yeah. You're, you weren't gonna tell us you were gonna get married. Abraham is livid. Livid, can't even talk. Like takes a step back from the band is so upset. And so about a month goes by, right? They wait for things to kind of settle down and then Selena and Chris get an apartment together in Corpus Christi, Texas and they just continue on with their lives. And eventually Abraham does come around. He does. He says basically he thought that there's a word in Spanish, it's machista. Okay. Okay. And it means like a chauvinistic pig. And he basically thought Chris was this like rock and roller who wanted to ruin Selena's career but would go off on his own and like fuck around while he was on tour. Oh. And just like he was gonna ruin everything for her and he wasn't in love with her. And that's not who he was. He was actually this like really softy. He was obsessed with her in all the right ways. Not the creepy, yeah, yeah. Manipulating, not using like, truly loved her and wanted the best for her and didn't wanna mess with her career at all. Just wanted Selena for who she was, and I think she was able to let her guard down in front of him in a way she probably couldn't outside of the family. Yeah. And they're spending so much time together, so they like genuinely fell in love with each other. And so Abraham comes around, he lets him back into the family band. Everyone's fine. Chris is part of the fam now. We're all one big happy family. We're all slang, we're all on Big Bertha ready to take on the world, right? Like the Gorny. So Jesus Christ, uh, she releases her third studio album and re Mundo Mundo Enter My World. I believe that. How's that for your Duolingo? It's terrible. In May, 1992, the album was critically acclaimed as her breakthrough album, and it went 10 times platinum. So now crazy. Now we're popping the fuck off. So she's touring, she's doing public appearances and meet and greets in the people love her. She's refreshing. She speaks proudly, Spanglish, as she would call it. So. It's not in my notes, but at one point they asked to do like a press conference with her in Mexico. Wow. And she's a, a huge ass star in Mexico. And her dad's like, no way. Abraham's like, you don't speak perfect Spanish. There, they will rip you to shreds. And she's like, dad, I can do it. I've been practicing like, I got this right. She goes into this press conference and she's kissing everyone on both cheek and just like working this goddamn room. And she sits down and they start asking her, of course, like fluent rapid questions and she starts to answer and she's, she's doing it. And at one point she pauses and she just says it in English, like whatever the word she stuck on. And everyone cracks up laughing. Like she just has this adorable. She's wicked cute, like as charming. And I mean, she's absolutely stunning and so sexy. She's like charming and cute and silly. It makes her down earth and it makes her like ref. She lights up a room like that term was made for someone like Selena. She's fabulous. So she's doing her thing. She releases an album called Live Exclamation Point. It's all the songs are performed live. She wins a Grammy and this is like Pin, I mean it's Pinnacle. She's, she went from singing in her dad's Tex-Mex restaurant. And she wins a Grammy in front of her whole family. Unheard of. So it's just amazing. So she wins for Best Mexican American album. It's the 36th Grammy Awards. And then in May of 1994, it's named Album of the Year by Billboard, Latin Music Awards. She's crushing it in the same year she launches Selena, et cetera, her own fashion line and boutiques, what a name. And she's proving, you know, she's not just a performer, she's an entrepreneur and a designer and she's ahead of her time. So they open up that debris coming in handy. Yep. All, all that glue gunning, all all of those bedazzle moments they made in the back of the Big Bertha coming in handy, coming in life. And so they opened two boutiques and they even host fashion shows and she walks at the end of each of her fashion shows in her own shit. And then at the end of the second one, Selena I, Los Dinos puts on a whole ass concert she's in negotiations to open more stores in Monterey, Mexico and Puerto Rico. And the person who is managing both boutiques is Yolanda. Of course she, she is.'cause the family was so impressed by the way she managed the fan club. They promote her. So now she's running the two boutiques. So at this point, right, let's take a pause. In 1994. She releases a fourth album. She just won a Grammy. She's selling out massive venues. She's touring all over the place. Not just with her family now, but with the love of her life who everyone now accepts. She's living, she's designing her own clothes, which she always wanted to do. She's opening up a fashion line. She's opening up stores. She's giving back to the people. She is like right there. She's like right on the cusp of being the star. She, I mean, she's already doing it, but you know what I mean? Like she, her bubble is about to blow in the best way. And then we come to 1995. Are you alive at this point? I am alive. Are you 93? I'm 1990. So I've been alive a couple years. Look at me making you younger. I Listen, I won't shame you for that. I won't shame you. Can I go pee and refill this? Yes. Okay, thanks. I'll colleen asked for a seventh inning stretch for the podcast so we could like go pee and. Also just, you know, refill our drinks, do whatever we need to do. Is there a certain song you want for your seventh inning stretch? No, I think I'm all stretched. I stretched in the bathroom. You just stretched in the bathroom? Yeah, I cracked my back. But what's like the seventh inning stretch like we played, take me out to the ball game and then it's followed up. I feel like it would be, sorry, am I even talking to the microphone? I feel like it would be, my brain always goes to Dancing Queen, but that's my walkup song. The seventh Inning stretch song would be like, I like Dancing Queen. No, that's my walkup song. Okay. In the case we ever play a game of baseball. Sure. You know, you know that very near future thing that we'll definitely do. Yeah. No jerseys are so ugly. Like not for my body type. Yeah. My company was looking at swag and they were like golf shirts for women and I'm like, I've quite literally never seen a no Golf Short. Now if you go on these sites that were made for women who actually play golf, I'm talking like the companies who buy in bulk and it comes in either man size or women's size. No, but you know that material is like the dry fit material. No, I love that. No, no. That is the most unflattering. No, but to, to like work out in and do something you're actually sweating in. Yes. I mean the shape, the shape is not doing any of us any good. Let me tell you, it clings to things you don't need clinging to I that I agree with. And that is just something I'll stand behind. But no, I don't know what my seventh inning stretch song would be. Okay, well think about it and we'll, we'll do, we'll circle back a little seventh inning stretch song. Oh, oh, pump it louder. Pump louder. I'm vetoing nine mumbo number five. Mumbo number five. Ladies, hold on. Ladies and gentlemen, this is mumbo number five. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Everybody in the club and juice saying I really don't want, just like was overcame with something, something to go over. That was very funny. Someone took over my bad for that one. That, that continue moving. You can continue about Selena. Yeah, it's about to get real dark. So buckle in. I mean, Selena Gomez could never, I do like Selena Gomez a lot. No, but she's not Selena. You know, I mean, okay, so, Yolanda has been managing the boutique since early 19 94, 8 months later. She moves'cause she lives in San Antonio, Texas. She moves to Corpus Christi to be closer to Selena and she is like fully in it. We need her backstory. Like does she have a family in, her and Selena are very, very tight. Yeah. In December, 1994, things aren't going well at the boutiques. They begin to complain about being short on staff and they're like, well that's weird. We fully staffed everybody. Turns out Yolanda is often dismissing employees. She just didn't like and if you like, fucked up one time she was like, Ew, no, you're fired. And so employees at the stores are regularly complaining about her behavior to Selena. Oh that's awkward. And Selena is writing off their claims and she truly believes that Yolanda would never negatively affect her businesses or treat someone they hired with disrespect or let people go flippantly. Like Selena's core is to take care of her own. And she's like, Yolanda knows how much these boutiques, this business, these people mean to me. She would never do that.'cause she knows she would never, it would hurt me. Yeah. Like she selena's very pure of heart. She's very loyal. Yeah. And when they did not get the reaction they were looking for from Selena, they went to Abraham. They're like, okay, Selena might not be taking this seriously, but like someone needs to hear us out. Abraham did not write these claims off. Abraham is like, something is not right. He took it super seriously. He told Selena to be careful and he said, Yolanda might not be a good influence. And Selena kind of dismissed him and was like, you've never really been trusting of people though. Like she's my, yeah. One of my closest friends. Like, you don't really get it. So January, 1995, Selena's fashion designer, Martin Gomez, she worked really closely with her cousin and clients are expressing their concerns over Yolanda's behavior. Yikes. So we're not even talking like people who work at my stores anymore. We're talking inner circle like flags are flagging. Yes. They're worried about her management skills and the way that she's behaving. During an interview with Yolanda in 1995, reporters from the Dallas Morning News said her devotion to Selena boarded on obsession again in January. Abraham Beca began receiving calls from fans who said they paid for a membership in the Selena Fan Club and they had received nothing in return for it. And back in the day, right? So we're talking mid nineties. This was not like you paid a hundred bucks and you got a cameo. This was like, I signed up for a thing. They buy tons of swag, Selena signs it, and then you get like a swag bag of stuff in the, in the snail mail sent to you. Right? And so all of these fans are like, we paid for this months ago. Nothing is happening. What is going on? And so Abraham's spidey senses are tingling. Abraham's like, Hmm, I'm gonna start investigating. And what he finds is that Yolanda has embezzled more than$30,000 via forged checks from both the fan club and the boutiques. She's stealing from any area of the business she has her fingers in, she is taking money from. Great. So they also show this in a really interesting way in the movie where after one of the fashion shows, all the girlies get together and they're like, oh my God, we wanna do something nice for Selena. Like, this has been so amazing. We're all gonna pitch in and buy her jewelry. Like, we're gonna buy her a ring. And they're like, Yolanda, do you wanna pitch in? And she's like, I know exactly what she wants. You guys give me the money and I'll go buy what? Exactly what? Like I know her so well and Yolanda goes and buys a ring and then just says it's from her. Interesting. And it's just like, it's giving the ick, like you can just tell that something is incorrect right now. That's the movie. I know it's not a hundred percent accurate, but you're getting the vibes. Yeah. That something is off. So Abraham holds a meeting. Selena is there, and Suzette is there. It's March 9th to confront Yolanda. He has his receipts, his t's have been crossed, his i's have been dotted. And so we don't have a lawyer or anything. Mm-hmm. No family. They are family, family, family. It, it is family first always. And that's why, not to say if this didn't happen to a tight-knit family, it wouldn't be as sad. But to, to get in with this particular group and fuck it so bad and do something so heinous, it's extra cruel. Breaks my heart. We're not talking about people who didn't have a support system who like grabbed onto others. Like, I feel that way about watching Justin Bieber grow up. Like I feel like there was, there's a lot obviously happening right now with him. I feel like he gravitated towards people who were just around him. Selena did not. So it was like from the jump, Selena had her crew. And so to watch this woman detonate it is just horrific. They go about in a very smart way. They start out asking questions. They're like, well, what about this? And what about that? And then he just starts laying down the proof, he presents all of his evidence to Yolanda, imagine the sweat trickling down her back as he just like lays all this information down and he's like, here are the complaints we're getting and here are the phone calls from fans. We're getting, oh, and here are the forged checks that I have also found. And if you do not provide the evidence. To disapprove all of these accusations. I'm calling the cops and I think a part of him had to do it in front of Selena because I think so much of it was noise to her. But to also hear it at the same time as her and to see the reaction, it almost needed to like light a fire under her real, like how bad it is. Right? so he's like, I'm gonna call the cops if you can't disprove this, if bans Yolanda from contacting Selena. However, Selena did not want to burn this friendship. She did not wanna burn this bridge. Selena, you're being naive. She thought Yolanda was essential to her success, specifically with the boutiques. And also she has all of Selena's bank records, statements, financial records, like when Selena's getting ready to do her motherfucking taxes one day, Yolanda has all of it. So there's also an aspect of this, of like, you have a lot of information for a long time now and I I kind of need to keep you close. Yeah. And I don't want to burn this bridge, but like something's gotta give here'cause you're actively stealing from me. Yeah. Which is like an impossible situation to be put in. She's also probably mourning the fact that one of her closest confidants is like, yeah, she only has robbing her blind. Right. So there's a lot happening. So it's March, two months later, not even Yolanda refuses to hand over any bank statements, any financial documents, because she knows what it's gonna say, right? She claims that. So this part gets really weird. She claims to have been sexually assaulted by Selena? No. Oh, but why is that an excuse to steal? She says it to Selena and she says like, that's why I can't give you these documents, is'cause I was sexually assaulted. That makes no sense. But so Selena takes her to the hospital to get an examination and they don't. Now, if you've never been sexually assaulted or, uh, raped, trigger warning, a vaginal assessment is swab slash whole situation exam is pretty normal, right? They don't do that. And also Yolanda's like, well, it happened in Mexico and they were in Corpus Christi, but they went to a San Antonio doctor, and the doctor was like, why are you here? Like, not, why are you here? But like, if it happened in Mexico and you're from there, why are you, the whole thing is weird. And I like, couldn't find a lot of information on it. Weird. This is what I'll say, I personally believe happened. Take this with a grain of salt, right? Whether she was assaulted, raped, whatever might have happened to her. The way and the timing of which she did this to me feels the noose is tightening and I am buying for time. Correct. I don't know if she was sexually, I I don't wanna comment on that. No. Like, but like the way in which she was like, I can't give you these financial documents like I was sexually assaulted. Feels very like we are grasping at straws, baby girl. We're grasping, we are. Not to dismiss you, but also kind of sauce. Right? Like, if that happened horrific. Not the time, the place, or the reason to bring that up in this, like, I'll take you to get checked, but also hand over the, the evidence, but like the question still stands my girl. Yeah. So after this whole hospital debacle of them like going to this hospital, whatever, they meet again and now it's March 31st, 1995. And anytime you say a date, you know, it's like gotta be, gotta be fucked up. Selena goes to Yolanda's motel room, it's at the Days Inn. It's Selena demands the financial documents from her. She's like, give them to me now. And at 1148, Yolanda gets out a gun out of her purse. She holds the gun up to Selena. Selena sees the gun and makes a run for it. And as she turns, Yolanda fires and she shoots Selena in the right lower shoulder and it hits an artery and Selena makes a run for the lobby. Now she's at a DA in. Also bleeding from an artery bleeding out trigger warning. Like a lot of blood. Yeah, like an artery. We're talking truly bleeding out. According to Wikipedia, it was 392 feet. So for Americans for measurement, it's 130 yards. So it's over a football field. Oh yeah. That's far. She makes it that far. I if you're literally any from anywhere else other than the us it's 119 meters, a lot of blood. Yolanda is chasing after her at some point and calling her a bitch. Uh, are you, are you actually fucking for real? Are you fucking for real? Selena makes it to the lobby. She collapses. Can you imagine being the front desk receptionist to the Days Inn in Corpus Christi, Texas and you see Selena, literally Selena coming in, bleeding out, no, they immediately called 9 1 1. They reacted so fast, they were trying to help her, and Selena says Yolanda, room 1 58 and that's the last words she ever spoke. Yolanda goes to her pickup truck because she knows what's about to happen and she attempts to flee the scene of the crime responding officers were already there and spot her and like pin her in so she can't leave. They're like, no bitch. This begins a nine and a half hour standoff between Yolanda and the FBI, where Yolanda sits in her car and threatens to kill herself for nine and a half hours, nine and a half hours. Now, fans obviously hear about this quickly. They're all just standing around. So all of these people are converging. The cops have her literally cornered and she's in the car holding the gun, talking to the police, being like, I'm gonna kill myself.. true pandemonium though. She doesn't, they arrest her, by the way, but like, stop with the drama. Yolanda. Enough. And also, I hate to say this, but I was talking to Erin about this the other day.$30,000, all of this for 30 K, that's nothing. Even in mid nineties, it's not that much. It's a lot of money. It's the grand scheme of things for a multimillionaire at this point. Probably a global superstar. You don't think you could have figured something the fuck out? This woman who gave you chance after chance the kindest, most down to earth. I help. My people don't, and I feel like they would've a hundred percent if she was just like, yeah, I did it. I'm sorry. They probably would've been like, bye, you're fired. And that's it. There would've been no actual repercussions of here. No. They were like, give me my financial fire so I can file my taxes. Yeah, bare minimum. Give me my documents. You monster. You fucking monster. So Selena was transported to the hospital at noon. She was shot at 1148. So when I tell you fast like they were fucking there her heart stopped beating. They revive her long enough to get her into surgery, but they do everything they can and they pronounce her dead of blood loss in cardiac arrest at 1:05 PM Selena is 23 years old, woof. And on April 1st, they hold a vigil in Corpus Christi. and Over 70,000 people signed the book of condolences. It shook the world, her assassination, because that is what it is, was compared to John Lennon to JFK in the death of Elvis Presley on April 12th, 1995, two weeks after her death, George W. Bush, who was governor of Texas at the time, declared her birthday April 16th. As Selena Day in the state, Yolanda Sal Devar was tried in October of 1995, after three hours of deliberating, she was found guilty of first degree murder. She was sentenced to 30 years in prison with the possibility of parole, which was the maximum sentence at that time in Texas, which brings us to March 27th, 2025. She croak. She had the opportunity to be paroled. Oh, and she was presented to the parole board. In the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles denied Yolanda parole citing the brutal nature of the crime and concerns that Saldovar still poses a threat to public safety. Her next parole review is scheduled for March, 2030. In, during her incarceration, Yolanda has been held in protective custody due to threats from other inmates. Damn. Spending up to 23 hours a day in isolation. Oh, good. What does this woman look like these days? Who cares? No, I know, I know, but I'm just um, yeah, no, I, I totally get you. So the thing is, Selena died, but she never left. You know, her music still plays, her face is everywhere. Her story still inspires Latinas all over the place. She's a muse. She gets her own movie in 1997 with the then unknown Jennifer Lopez. There's a Netflix series in 2020. Mac launched two makeup collections in her honor. She has a museum. She got a Hollywood star after her passing, and she still has a devoted fan base across multiple generations. She's a symbol of Latin pride, of the American dream. She's everything. And she proved that you could just be yourself, where no matter what culture you come from, no matter what combination, no matter how many people tell you no, that you could just be yourself and make it. And so I asked Chad, GPT'cause I wanted to end on a positive note. And so I said, can you tell me in all, you know, a couple paragraphs like what is Selena's legacy? And I get chills every time I read this. Selena's legacy is far greater than her music. She shattered barriers for women in Latin music, especially in the male dominated Tejano genre, becoming a cultural icon who proved that being a Mexican American wasn't a limitation, it was a superpower. She embraced her identity. She spoke Spanglish proudly and connected deeply with fans who finally saw themselves reflected in a global superstar. Selena inspired her generation to pursue their dreams unapologetically, and she did it with humility, joy, and sparkle. Her confidence, kindness, and work ethic made her not just beloved, but unforgettable, nearly three decades after her passing. Selena's presence is still everywhere in tribute, concerts, makeup, collections, murals, documentaries in the hearts of fans, old and new Wow. Artists continue to name her as a key influence, and young Latinas still look to her as proof that they belong on any stage in any room. Her music continues to chart, her fashion still inspires, and her story keeps being told. Selena may be gone, but her light hasn't dimmed. She lives on in every beat, in every lyric, and in every dream made bigger because of her bridge. I'm sorry. So beautiful. She's such an inspiration. I hate Yolanda so much. It's been a really bad week. No, no, I agree with all the, all the things. I'm a mess. I'm so mad, Yolanda. Yeah. Fuck that bitch. This is gonna sound so dumb, but I know the people who will get it will get it. Why do you think murder is ever the answer? And I know that's so stupid, but it's like, why do you think,'cause you did something shitty, you get to take away this person from family and fans and people who could have, she could have done anything. Selena could have done anything. And because this bitch embezzled and got caught, she was like, no, not you. That's infuriating to me. I know. And I, I don't know if anyone's watched, there was a documentary recently about Lacey Peterson, which like talk about someone who deserves to burn in the fiery pits of hell. Scott Peterson can truly fuck off. No. Yeah, for sure. And Lacey Peterson's mom, I'm paraphrasing, says something to the effect of, just because you didn't want her anymore doesn't mean you get to take her from us. And it's always stuck with me, like there is a way. There is a way in which you can still get what you want without actually taking someone from this planet. Mm-hmm. And no one will be able to. There's a long list of other ways you can do it. There's so many other things that you can do. And like you taking this beautiful superstar who she was fucking 23 years old, her family was she was the nucleus to this family. Like every documentary, every interview I see, I am so Abraham, I am so sick for him, her siblings, her mom, I mean, whatever. So you guys all get it. In the movie, it's absolutely fucking Dal. She dies, right? Yolanda is in the car, she's weeping, fuck off. And it's the family crying in the doctor's hallway, like in the hospital. And then they show an empty stage with a microphone, no one on it. Completely empty venue. In the song Selena's song, I'm Dreaming Of You, tonight comes on and it starts late at night. Well, the, it is so fucking diabolical to play that song and then play a montage of Selena. I was, I was a wreck. I, I have not watched that movie in a solid 15 years. I was a fucking wreck. I'm dreaming of you tonight, but tomorrow I'll be holding you tight and there's nowhere in the world that I'd rather be, but here in my room, dreaming about you and me. I'm sorry, I'm feeling really passionately about this. No, it's okay. Let the passion out. I just, I fear I don't know how to, I don't, I feel you. I stand with you. I need you to watch the movie I don't disinformation so that you can understand how she dies. And then the immediate song that begins playing, it's diabolical. Okay. And that is the horrible story, but wonderful legacy of Selena. What I need a pound of. How about this? Let's have a, let's have, let's have a sip. Ready? No. Oh, shit. Yeah. Are we gonna do a breathing exercise? What are you doing? I was, I was just gonna like, reassemble and just um, you wouldn't know peace if it ran you over with a fucking car. No, true. But I can pretend. There was a dog every work today and he was like, legit being crazy. And I picked him up and put him to my chest and said, and we're calm. And we're calm and we're at peace. And he stopped. Oh, that's actually very nice. He was really annoying. And I was like, just sit down. Yeah. Do you believe that thing about dogs where like, it imitates the owner? So if it's like an anxious owner, the dog is anxious. I've never owned a pet. I've always wanted a dog. I want a corgi. I want an imitator. Tot I've been very clear about this. Yeah, I know. Or I want, like if imitates an old man name, Winston. My coworker just got a dog and named it Sir Winston. Sir Winston Murphy. So they call him Murph, they call him Winston. They call him sir. They like multiple names from him. I love Sir, sir Winston Murphy. I'm like, that's cute to fuck. Oh actually a dog name list. Do you wanna hear it? Yeah, of course. Okay. Obviously it depends on the dog. Like it has to suit the actual type of dog. Okay. Moose. But it depends on the dog. Like if it's a big tank of like a chocolate lab moose. Wait, I've known a chocolate lab named Moose. Do you? Who the fuck named their dog? Moose? I, I'll have to think about it, but yes, continue. Hank, uh, I've also known a dog named Hank, an old white guy name. I love it. Love. Goose too. I think Goose is good. Goose. Chunk. Chunk. That's like a cute nickname. No, I would name a dog chunk. Okay. You also have to think about yelling this in a crowded park chunk. Chunky. I have a friend who named their dog sniper and when they are in a crowded park across, that's Snipy. Snipy, maybe? Swiper? No Swipey. Bauer. Like the hockey. Oh the hockey stick. Yeah. The brand isn't Bauer so cute for like a golden retriever. Yeah, I can get behind that. I really don't want a girl dog. But if I had to have a girl, dog like gun to my head too soon, maybe, I'm not sure. Gun to the artery. Oh, mean it was too soon. I'm sorry, I just had to make a little gig. If I had like a, a royal girl dog that like wasn't a WeCh lady. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's very what's that cat you love from the Arista Cats with the pink bow? Marie? The white. Yeah. Marie. Daisy. But like, that's such a basic name. Uh, also coincides with like, if I had a child's name, Maggie. I love the name Maggie and Lucy. I really, I, I like Lucy as a girl's name. Like a, the, yeah, they could both, both coincide with real names. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed. But also dog names. Agreed. And Winnie. Oh, Winnie. That's all. You guys can use them if you want. Yeah. Tell us your favorite dog names. Okay, hold on. Do you have a giggle for us? I do. I'm pulling up my giggle right now. I had a feeling I would get a mo and so I, I reached out to Colleen in ahead of time. So Bridget's like, oh my God. There's this really funny trend on TikTok, like the propaganda one obviously. So I forgot about it. Not everyone is chronically online, so Oh, okay. The propaganda one, it means there's a trend on, but we sound so like, old being like, there's this trend on TikTok basically, but like some people genuinely dunno what the fuck we're talking about calling. Okay. So it's like propaganda I'm not falling for, for, so basically like, shit, I'm not falling for in today's day and age. Yeah. It's things that are commonly known, like things that are commonly said, done, blah, blah, blah, that I'm simply not doing, not falling for. Yeah. Like juice, cleanses, propaganda. I'm not falling for, right. Like, stuff like that. It's not the, it's not the vibe basically. Yeah. It's not the vibe. Perfect for me. I, I'm so hateful. Well, so I sent you like a couple options and one was positive and then there was this one. I was like, this is perfect for her.'cause she can just bitch about things that happen every day. This is like, so up your alley in a good way. Yeah. So these are like things that I see on a daily basis and, or like, not to say popular, but like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like influencer thing. Just like shit like that in today's day and age that like, I, trendy. Trendy, yeah. Trendy shit that I'm like, what? No, I, I have 30 of them. Three zero. Three zero. I was ready. You had 24 hours notice. I was rolling. I did it in five minutes. I was rolling Colleen. I was rolling. I was so in, I was getting hyped up. You know how I feel. I actually, we were doing affirmation cards at work every Thursday that I bought and I uh, I pulled one. I pulled one that was like I'm paraphrasing, but it was like. Stop hyper-focusing. This is for the week. Stop hyper-focusing on like things that you hate. Like stop putting energy into that shit because it keeps keeping you from what you love. Well, I almost, not to sound so corny, and I know you're gonna roll your eyes, but early when you were like, I was thinking about the things that are bad, that happened to me and I almost said like, why do we think about the good things? No, I had the list of good things. Okay, cool. When you were like, are you okay? My brain immediately goes to like, what could be wrong, but I had all the good things written. Okay. That's that actually, that's, that's actually really fair. Yeah. More or less like things that are bad also coincide with things that I can gigle at. Do you know what I mean? Like, we can't about things that are like I was gonna say, we have like deep chats about the big stuff and then the rest we almost have to laugh off. Yeah. Life is not that serious. Like, you told me a horrible story earlier and I giggled and I was like, sorry, I know it's had time to laugh yet, but I had to laugh that. But that's always your mo I'm used to that. Yeah. I hope we don't take that personally. I used to like, if it was really serious, I used to. Now I don't. No, I know. I, it took me a while to adjust. It's, it means nothing. Like it means nothing. It to be, it's not invalidates your feelings at all. It's just my thing. No, and that's what I learned. It's like your, the way you process something, if you're like uncomfortable, if you don't know what to say, your kneejerk instinct is to just be like, oh, what? Like it's. Yeah. It's like a, and it's not even that I'm uncomfortable, like you can tell me anything, but like my, there are moments where I have seen you straight up uncomfortable and you have giggled. Don, don't you dare. No, I definitely giggle when I'm uncomfortable. But like, you telling me something absurd is not uncomfortable. It's like so shocking to me that I laugh, but it doesn't make me uncomfortable. Yes. But also when I know that it's something that's upsetting you, my immediate reaction is how I can make a joke of this to make you feel better. But I know that's not what you need. Yes. But that's what my brain does. No, no, no. You've come a very long way. You used to like die laughing for like five straight minutes. Now it's like a giggle and then you cover your mouth and you go, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Please continue. Yeah. And then we laugh when I'm ready to laugh. Like we've both come a long way. Yes. We've we have learned a lot about each other. Yes. In the last three years. And I was like, oh, oh, oh. So yeah, this is great for me. Can't wait to get this off my chest. Yeah. I had a feeling to make this about me, but gotta make it about me. No, I mean, I knew that this was gonna be your thing without, we go by a Jew. 10 step, uh, skincare routine. Who says you have to do that? Okay. What do you mean though? When like, can everyone relax with like, this is my skincare routine. Each bottle is a hundred dollars and like, you have to do this in an exact order. No, everyone's a liar. You can do this in an exact order. Can I tell you I use sevy and only Sara v. Wash, lotion, body wash. That's it. Nothing else. Goodbye. I will say as a person who does my makeup all the time, right? Full beat to light. All you need to do is you need to exfoliate a light. Exfoliator does not have to be expensive. Light exfoliator. Get all that dry skin, get all the crap off of your face. You use a toner, right? That goes with your skin. You press that on there. Some people rub it in. Some people just do a press and then you do some sort of serum. One of my favorites is the thirst drops from Elf. You can go to Target, you can go to CVS, you can buy them. Or buy a bottle of it. It's in a blue bottle. It's like not even 15 bucks. That's it. That's it. Then you need a cleanser at the end of the night the makeup wipes, I don't think it takes all of it off. And then I have like a nighttime again elf for 10, 15 bucks. That's like a little bit thicker, so I look like a glazed donut when I wake up. That's it. And in the morning you should wear sunblock. Those are the hills I'll die on. But 10 steps every night and every morning that are all expensive. It's unnecessary. It is definitely propaganda. And the whole point is to sell you on a product. All these influencers are out here and they all have codes, right? Every time you buy, oh, it's in my storefront, it's in my shop. They're, they're getting their bag. Figure out what works for your skin. Get like three to four essentials and that's fucking it. No, too much. 10. 10 is too much. 10 is too much. No. Like that. Whatever you just said. Too much. Too much for me. Three for skin prep. For like makeup that has to stay all day long. Yeah. I guess just put on moisturizer before you put it on to stick. And then sunblock every morning. And then a night cream. So it's five, but like different sections of the day. Negative and all under 20 bucks. Negative. I feel, I feel different. Okay. Fair enough. This is what I feel. Not that anyone asked. It's our podcast. Literally if they're listening, they asked. Yeah. Yeah. Shut up. Don't tell our fans to shut up. Sippers. Never shut up Sevy. I, again, if I'm showering before bed or in the morning, use it in the shower. If I am taking off my makeup at night, I use the Sara V makeup wipes. Wipe it all off. It's not good. Doesn't do the do the job correctly. We all know that. But I mostly use it for mascara purposes anyways. Then I get in the bathroom and I scrub my face with a SE v lotion with Ace V Body, uh, yeah. Face wash. Yes. And then I moisturize se be, uh, face SE V is great. I have top of it in my room, but I have tried like a, uh, everyone's like, oh, you have to, to like the toner. I, I've tried that and then it fucks up my face. I think it's because I, I'm like fucking up my system because I've used it for so long. My other ones, I think that you have to understand the type of skin you have to buy skincare. So learn what your skin tone is and what type of skin you have, and then go from there. And you don't have to spend thousand. I used to spend you guys so much money on my skincare. No, you simply do not have to. You don't. No. Now do I love a splurge every now and again. Sure. But that's also not sustainable. If you're using something every day that's expensive, a splurge on a pair of shoes that you're gonna wear for a decade, absolutely. A splurge on something you have to refill regularly. No. No, you know who you're talking to. You don't have to look at me and say that shit. I was gonna say, you are bargain girly for life. I am frugal Fanny. You are, you are frugal. Fanny Walmart's finest. I'm not cheap with other people. You never, ever, you're very generous. Very generous. I'm cheap with myself and like things that I'm like, why would I do that? Like, well, I'm Walmart's number one customer. No, we know. We're aware. Okay, cool. And I'm Sephora's number one, so you Oh, I would never shop at Sephora. Yeah. So I would go to Alta before I went to Sephora. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. So we can't go through all 30 of these like this because we'll be here for first. Yeah. So, sorry. I'll let you No, don't apologize. I feel very strongly about skincare specifically. I've had such No, that's why I put it on the first. That's right. I, yeah, I have really bad skin. But please continue. No, I put that on there for you. That's, thank you. Yeah, that was me. Nice. Appreciate it. Skinny jeans in Nolan. Are these acceptable ever again? Unless it's with a Kneehigh boot? A hundred percent disagree. No. Moving on. Riding boots. Hate'em. Grow up and get a little heel. Even if you're tall. Even if you're tall like you, Bridget. Cool. Just pick apart my whole closet and all. You have riding boots? Yeah, of course I do. They're my favorite. Oh, yep. Nope. No. Please continue. You just got a heeled boot. Please continue. Do you wear riding boots with regular jeans? Yep. Why? And skinny jeans? Yeah, skinny jeans. Okay. Really regular ones? No. Regular? No, no, no. Not regular. Sorry. I I thought skinny jeans to me are regular jeans. So we'll take this offline, go, we'll circle back, we'll circle back. We'll take this offline in your closet. We'll put a pin in this veneers. No one needs veneers. You need braces and waiting strips. You're really picking apart my whole life right now. You know how I feel about teeth. Why do you have veneers? You don't have ERs. I feel very strongly. Okay. Sorry about teeth. And there's an confidence. There's, if you have something actually wrong with, like, if there's like a deeper issue, like you actually need veneers, then sure. But most, I feel that most can be fixed with braces and whitening strips. Right. So you are saying people are going to the extreme where you could do something that you could literally buy on Amazon and take care of. Yeah. Like why the fuck do you have veneers for most people, when I look at you and I'm like, I'm sorry. Unless you have like, you've had to get teeth removed and you have some wanky ass shit, what are you doing? That's, that's my notes. Yeah. I dunno. I dunno. That's a valid point. And we all know, we all know you have veneers. It's obvious. I mean, they sparkle like, you know when Ross gets the tan? Yes. And he like stays in the tanning bed too long or whatever. I'm talking to you Love Islanders. Oh my god. All the Brits. Did you watch the new episode? It's crazy. No, I haven't watched it yet. Me either. The Bachelor, who is actually watching that shit, they get married at the end question mark who is believing the shit and following it, not me. Yeah. And I, I gotta tell you, so I used to be a hardcore Bachelor fan and I haven't watched it in, in many, many seasons now. I think the dating. World of reality television has expanded so much. I would prefer to watch Love Island any Day over The Bachelor. Yeah. There's like too many other good shows out there that Bachelor is stuck in their regular programming and they need to update and like come back to the times and they have not and they really need to figure that the fuck out. Yeah. They should. They get engaged. They don't get married at the end. They get engaged. Oh, whatever. Either way. That's fucking ridiculous. No, it's insane. It's absolutely insane. Eyelash extensions had them, can speak to them and no, no one should have them unless they're the, the natural ones. No one should ever have them ever again. They don't look good to me. They don't, they look like shit and they're so fucking expensive. You all look ridiculous. You could fly away on your eyelashes. Goodbye. One gust of wind. You think you look good, you look ridiculous. Hot. Take propaganda. I'm not falling for call her daddy. Oh, Alex Cooper. Mm-hmm. I like Alex Cooper as a person, but I'm honored to call her daddy. I think her the whole her and Sophia thing and she's like taking this as if she's been like an a solo person this whole time. Like my jaw's on the floor. And also she recently just went into the bar she was filming for that new documentary that's coming out. Maybe the doc will make me change my mind. But she went into the bar stool office and was like, Hey. And like people were genuinely like you. We never spoke to us when you worked here. Like why are you talking to us? Like just that shit. I don't like it. And also I just don't care for. Her. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't like her paw. I love it. Really. I love it. I love Alex Cooper. I do think she's a good interviewer. I think she's an excellent interviewer. I don't, I don't watch or listen religiously. Me neither. But I love what she stands for. I love the way that she interviews. I love that she picks particularly women. She mean, I mean she interviews everyone, but like the women that she allows to come on and like give them a space. I'm big, big fan. Big fan push. I mean, you said hot take. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Another propaganda, I'm not falling forward is being the bigger person in any situation. Completely disagree. I don't think you always need to be the bigger person. I just don't. I think you do. I don't. Whatever. Nope, I think you do. Whatever would make you feel better a month from now and a year from now. Okay. And you think past right now in this moment, but if not being the bigger person would make you feel better a year from now and you'll look back and be like, I'm so glad I told that fucking person off. I think you should do it. Okay. That's fair. I, so I agree. Depending on the scenario. Okay. Okay. I'll let you have that. When someone says, A dog is not a human, a dog is a human and you cannot convince me otherwise. Totally disagree, but continue, A dog is one with us. A dog is a pet. A dog is one with us. I love them. They're also an animal. Spencer was a human. Got it. No notes saying that gossiping is the same thing as talking shit. Completely different. Completely different. Would agree. Raw milk. Why do people, what is, why? What is it? I get it. Why is it like illegal? Why? Just, why? Why Just go to the store and buy fucking whole milk. Not even why Mark Actually don't even buy milk. Don't do it. Why? Period. Get yourself some almond and oat milk and call it a fucking day. Get a grip. I had this argument with mans, actually, not that again, anyone asked. Uh, we got coffee recently and he is a sick fuck and he likes cream in his coffee, which is he's very old man of him. Like Yeah, he is. Does he have new balances? Yeah, of course he does. Oh my God, sorry. I love, he has three pairs of shoes and I bought him three more. So like he has Wow. Went up quite a bit. He literally was like, I don't even know what shoes says I am. I haven't bought shoes since 20 20 18. It's 2025, sir. He doesn't know what shoe size he was. He, he got outta a measuring tape, Bridget, and measured his foot toe. You are the ying to his YI actually said him once, like I picked you getting up and having coffee with cream and reading the newspaper at the kitchen table and he's like, what am I a hundred? I'm like, it kind of sounds nice to be honest. We went and got coffee and I ordered, I just forgot.'cause I always order like a latte. We went to like this wicked good coffee place. And I ordered myself a latte with like almond milk and I just put cream on his, but I forgot that lattes is mostly, it's mostly the milk and espresso. And I was like, so when it came out I was like, oh my God, this is a cup of cream. And then I looked at him and he was like, what the fuck? And I let him try mine and he was like, this is so good. Mind you, he had just the whole time drive there. I don't even get the point about almond milk. It's like watery, it's nut juice, like going on and on about it. And I was like, mm-hmm. Then he takes my coffee and he is like, this is so fucking good. And I was like, mm-hmm. And he was like, just, just order me what you ordered. And so I ordered him what I ordered, but instead of almond milk, you wish for it. I gave him regular milk. Did he? Oh no. Reordered was disgusting. And he was like, this tastes different. And I was like, bitch, you like cream and milk. You don't let you just shit on old milk and almond milk, so I refuse to give you that. And he was like, I told you to order me what you got? And I said, but you shit on almond milk. Why would I get, this is like a full argument we had for like an hour. That's so funny. And so then we switched coffees and I drink the one with milk, but it's, I don't drink coffee, so I do not have a stance here, but I support you. Like who cares if it comes from an out or a nut? It's good. Get outta here with your shut up and drink. Get outta here with your cow shit. You go, go to a farm and you start, you start milking'em. You wink the Ts and then talk to me. How about that? You get down on your hands and fucking knees. He loves milk. It's sitting and you, and you get your, you get your wakin out. You know what? Put your mouth under there. Let's see how you like it. Oh, Colleen, come on. Well, I'm not on it. Just under it. Come just under it. I'm not an animal. I'm not a freak. Come on. Fake freckles. Why are you putting on fake freckles? It's giving wannabe. Yeah. Someone who has a ginormous amount of freckles all over my body. I'm like, Hmm. In a, in a, Ooh. Are you guess trying to be like, meh, you wanna be just like me? I see. I always thought our freckles were really cute, so like, I don't mind it, but I get what you mean. Like, just be who you are. It's fine. Meditation is the highest form of flattering. Ew. When the nail ladies say that you have to come every two weeks. Literally. No, you don't. I'll see you in two fucking months. How about when they go, how about your, your upper lip? How about the mustache? When you get your eyebrows waxed? They asked me if they want my chin, Bridget. Oh, dark days. No. Do you know how cruel it's, the days are dark. I think they tap it. They go right here. What? Right here? You're like, I have PCOS you said. I'm like, listen, I got a lot of things going on. I'm unpacking a lot of illnesses. Chin is the least of our worries. Please be fucking for real. And also I plucked that on my way to work in the proper lighting. Listen, tweezers in the car. I cannot, after 25 years old, put tweezers in your car. Thank me. Later. Don't ask questions. Yeah. Speaking of man's found my tweezers and my, uh, eyebrow razor in the car and was like, I'm not understanding. And I was like, just don't ask questions. It's not for you. Don't worry about it. No, just'cause you're in the driver's seat does not mean you get to know about my secret. No. There are secrets that you should not know, sir. My secret caverns. Yeah. He uses one now. It's okay. Great. Love that. Matcha is fucking disgusting. Agreed. Tastes like grass. Yes. Ballet flats. Stop trying to bring'em back. They're cute for work. I, it, it's, why were we like, do you know what they're cute for ballet. Yeah, that's fair. They're sorry. Not even cute for work. They're okay for work. Uh, forgiveness and Period. Period. No, no, it's, oh, okay. You'll hate what I have to say on this. So we'll move past it. And if we have to forgive, I guess to an extent, but we do not forget ever. A hundred percent. Uh, I think that for, I'm gonna say it anyway. You're gonna roll your eyes. Forgiveness comes from within. Meaning? Meaning you make peace with the situation and you can move on from it. No, but does not mean you forget about it. Okay. So I don't find peace. I, I think closure is made up. I think all those people you wanna like, have that, that I curse the day you were born. I do feel that right. Charlotte moment in sex and the city is made up. True closure comes from you and you finding it in yourself so that you can move on. Because holding onto crap like that is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to die. Because usually in those scenarios, the person who did you wrong isn't thinking about it. You are. So, you find peace with it and you move on and then when the time rises, you tell them to fuck right off. But I, I think this whole idea of like, you're gonna sit down with a person who wronged you and they're gonna apologize and you're gonna say your piece and they're gonna feel it is very fucking rare. So I, when I say that I don't forgive somebody, I don't expect there to be like a situation like that, that's not, and also I'm not confrontational. I would rather sit and stew in my hate and re-bring up the conversation over and over again just for like, to feel something. But I don't expect like a resolution. So do you understand? Let's, let's unpack that last sentence. Okay. Say that one more time. I would rather sit in stew and talk about it over and over again with my friends over a martini. That brings me joy just to feel something and it scratches an itch. And I don't care. Like I don't need resolution. I don't want someone to come to me and apologize. I don't give a fuck. But I will never forgive you what you did to me or to somebody else ever. Forgive or forget. Okay. So you mean gossip it You mean like talking shit, I guess, but because like, nothing really that crazy has happened to me because like, well, it just sounded like you would allow bad behavior to continue. So you could have these moments where you can feel something and live in the toxicity. No, it's like one done thing, then I wanna keep bringing up. Okay, you wanna keep bringing it up. Okay. That's completely different. That's like, or if I see somebody most likely to other people rather than myself.'cause like I said, I don't really have anything, but if I see something that somebody has done to somebody else and they've forgiven them, I'm like, okay, you can go ahead and do that and like proceed and like still talk to this person, Texas person. I know exactly the person you're thinking about. There's like four of them and I'll never, no, like you can, that's fine. But not, I think that's a classic loyal friend or if you have a sibling, like someone who's mean to Erin. Yeah. I haven't forgiven where Erin has and vice versa. Right? Yeah. Same as you. You have forgiven friends where I'm like, no, if they, if they come up to me in public, I'm like, literally take a fucking hike. Yeah. So I think that's also a loyal thing. But like, I just wanna talk about it ing. I wanna bring it up. I just wanna, I just wanna re gaggle that issue. Yeah, fair enough. It's fun for me. A little toxic, but I get it. This is like, not that this is, you'll probably be like disagree and like, this is ridiculous. But this is a thought that I have and an ick that I have and I guess I really can't have an opinion on it because it hasn't happened to me yet. But I think that I was, you were allowed to have an opinion no matter what. Turns out I know, but this is not something that I've done yet. So therefore I should be able to have an opinion, whatever, when someone has a child. Here we go. They chop their hair off the minute they have a child and they're like, yep, mom, cut. Why your hair? You still have to do your hair. Do you know what I mean? Like, is it really that much less of a problem? Can I tell you what I think it is? What is it? I think that moms are so overwhelmed in postpartum and the mental and physical and emotional load of being a new parent that if they have one less thing on their plate, which means like I get outta the shower and I blow dry this for 30 seconds and that's the most styling I have to do. Yeah. I think it's worth it. That's fair. I just feel like if you're blow drying it, like what's the extra five minutes I guess. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I dunno what your hair routine is. Yeah, I'm just saying like consistently. Yeah. This one I totally disagree with, but I, and they like entertain it. They're like, yep. But like they actually are like wrong. They like go into the full mom character. It's like it's freaking me out. Like you can still just, I think your point is like you can be someone else outside of being a mother. Yeah. Like you don't need to give birth and then automatically get a little boy Bob. You just don't have to do it. Okay. That I agree with. I'm just thinking about my friends and how taxing No, that's what I'm saying. I can't speak on that because I don't. Right, right. I can see it and I disagree with it, but I get it. Thank you. That was so nice. You're welcome. Uh, the idea, I try to be rational. Yes. Yes. You are. You are a very devil's advocate. But also understanding waking up at 5:00 AM making you cool. Better productive it. Okay, great. Can I tell you number one on my list of propaganda is cold plunge. Fuck off. Fuck off. Sorry. I'm cool with the sauna, but we can, we can skip the cold plunge. I, I can't, I can't do whatever makes you happy. It's not for me. Also, fuck off when someone's like, I'm not like most girls, or, I'm different. If you have to say it, it's not true. It's also an insult. I'm like all the girls and I am better for it. Be a girl's girl. It's just not that hard. Yeah. Don't be a pick me. It's just not that hard. when people have something to say about, uh, lab grown diamonds in comparison to blood diamonds, you're an idiot. Like just who gives the fuck? They look exactly the same. Give me moise aite. I don't care. It's usually people who have spent full price for an actual diamond who are jealous that a thing exists that looks exactly the same for one eighth. The price. If you have something to say about it, get a hobby. Touch some grass. Call boy cousin. Give me cup book zirconia. Actually, yeah, I literally did that. Grow that shit out back in your yard if you'd like to Doesn't matter when someone wears a cute dress, like a little sundress. Long or short Yes. Compares it with cute sneakers. Like they're cute sneakers. Yes. No. Do you do that? Of course I do. Where with sandals? I wear white sneaks with everything. I guess it's just like not, it's just we need to set, like if you're going for a girly dress, look like you need a sandal. No. Depends on where you're going. Are you going outside? Yep. If you're doing like an outdoorsy thing. Yeah, sure. But if you go to a bar, no. Yeah. Do it all the time. Okay. Personally attacking Bridget today. Yeah. No, that's okay. I'm confident myself. The, I'm not rude, I'm just blunt statement, like, no, you're actually just rude and you're actually just a bitch. Uh, this one, if you have to say it, it's, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think there is a lot of ways to, to be direct. And this is something I've personally really struggled with over the years.'cause I was always like the direct one. Even though I have a really soft heart, like I can just say what it is. Yeah. People actually don't wanna hear the truth and No. Yeah. It doesn't make you blunt though. That's just like, and it, it actually just makes you look like an asshole. Yeah. So find a way to get your point across without hurting someone's feelings. It's actually quite simple. If you, instead of just like reacting to the thing that's in your brain and saying it out loud, just take a pause and be like, how could I make this into a joke? Or how, if I were recce on the receiving end of this, how could I make this an easier pill to swallow? Like a more thoughtful approach. And also like, if you don't think it's necessary, you actually don't have to say it. Block twist. I know we live in a world where everyone thinks that their opinions and their voice is the only thing that matters, but it just doesn't, you actually just don't have to say a goddamn thing. Keep your trap, shit. Mind your business truffle anything. I think it smells like a shoe. Hmm. Truffle. I am a big fan of truffle. Not on everything though. It's gotta be specific. So I'm medium here. Okay. Switzerland, if you will. It literally smells like a mold and tastes like a shoe. Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's good. But we already talked about that. A hundred percent agree. And the hottest take of propaganda that I'm not falling for, but like do sometimes, which you're not gonna like, but you know how we say we hate all men? Like we do, we do hate men. Right? Like we, we don't give them credit. I don't hate men. Like I, I don't like, I love men. Okay. I dunno if that's like a more recent outlook given the circumstances, but like, I love to see a man doing things that he should be doing and take care of me. Do things like, I just, I am very like, like, I don't know. You're not trying to say no. The thing that you just said though, I like seeing men doing what they should. They don't do what they should. And you, you're saying like, they take care of me, right? Yeah. It's almost giving like old school style in a way. Like, I don't hate men. I like most of the men in my life. I don't have any issues. I would say like, probably a stranger on the street that's acting like a fucking douche bag. Of course I hate it, but like, I wouldn't go as far to say I hate men. Okay. Does that make sense? No. Yeah, I just feel like we talk about it all the time and I saw a thing on TikTok that was like, I don't actually like really hate men. And I was like, you know what? I don't really either actually, now that I think about it. How do I explain this? I also don't want to hate men. Yeah. This is a learned experience that I've had from encountering many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many shitty ones. There are plenty of men in my life that I love. No. Yeah. And my cousins and my uncles and my bed dad shout out to him. And my best friends from high school, she just gave me the peace sign. My best friends from high school are like the most top-notch men you can meet. However, many men who are not good, who are not kind, who I do not trust with my drink, who I do not trust with my friends. And those men ruin, it ruin my everybody experience. No. Like I can, I can name. Many times I was at a bar with a, when a man ruined the night for their behavior that was completely voluntary. And that makes me hate men. Do I want to? No. Is it all of them? No. But statistically it's, it's becoming an anecdotally, scientifically when you look at violence against women, when you look at who commits crimes in this country, when you look at shootings, guess, guess who it do be? The men. Right? I mean, I could write a whole fucking thesis on this, so I completely disagree with you. That's fair. I do. Have a hot take that, I mean, we're, we're really in the weeds now, but my hot take is that not everything is meant for you. And what I mean by that is we have so many people online, we have so many people sharing their opinions and hot takes just like we did, right? If you see something that you don't like the people who are commenting like, oh, shut the fuck up, like I. When did it stop happening where you just saw something that you were like, oh, that's not for me. And you swiped, like, if you heard a song and someone was like, I fucking love this song, and you were like, Hmm, that's not really my vibe. You just wouldn't listen to that song again. Yeah. Like not everything in the world is meant for you. It's like shut up into you, mind your business and keep it moving. I think people just feel, I don't know if it's this world of social media where we're, I love that you say that as if I didn't just like go through 30 things that I absolutely heard. Right. But here, here's the difference though, Colleen, here's the difference. If Chapel Chaperone came out with a new song you didn't like, right? Yeah. You would listen to it and you would talk about it on this podcast, right? Yeah. Which our friends and our family, and our sippers and our, our core people listen to. If they disagree with you, that's fine. If you didn't like chaperone song, that's also fine. You would not write, Hey, chopper, wrong. Go kill yourself on TikTok. No, God no. I don't care enough. Those people exist. Those people of like everything that this person, artist, a, any, any type of media that you witness is for me and should be completely under all of my Like who? Ca. Okay. It's not for you. Keep it moving. Just keep it moving you. You have all these dislikes. We talk about it and guess what? We'll move the fuck on and that will be it. You're not out here writing hate posts. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a difference. There's a difference between voicing your opinion in a safe space versus like publicizing it. I guess this is a public podcast, but do you know what I mean? You're not like threatening anyone in my eyes. I'm talking to you. So I mean, don't we know it? The amount of crimes you have attempted to commit on this podcast that I have had to cut out. It's fine. Admitted to allegedly all of the buzzwords. I'm perfect. I will say I do miss doing positive stories and I know some people have asked me about it. It got a little too repetitive in the sense of like, it was like old person does this. Yeah. And sometimes it was just like a headline and I'm like, well this isn't really a story. So what I'm gonna start doing is when I see a really nice story, I'm just gonna post it on the sipping with the Shannon's Instagram and the stories of the sipping with the Shannon's Instagram account will be the positive stories. Cool tip. That way people are still getting their fix, but I'm not like going to the same six accounts and being like. New person helped. Old person, new person, young person. Oh, I got a call. I think I was matched with an old person. Oh, that's good. I know. I'm gonna keep you posted. When did you, did you not call them back? No, we have a call scheduled. Oh, nice. Um, So they're gonna, we're gonna talk it out and see if it's a good fit. Reveal. Big reveal. But they like didn't give me any of the details. They like, I think they talk it out and make sure you're comfortable with it first. I like can't believe how much vetting they do in a wonderful way as they fucking should. As correct. I am impressed. I'm not shocked. I am impressed. Protect those fuckers at all costs. Yeah. Protect, protect the old people. They have lived a long life and people are taking, I can't, I can't. So Jen Shaw's like your worst nightmare. Fuck her. She's a loser and she's ugly. Oh, okay. I don't like Jen Sha. Did you know that? No, I knew. I knew there's, there are some, not all, but there are some housewives you are pretty adamant about. Oh yeah. Like they could do no wrong kind of, but I live in, you know. No. And vice versa. And vice versa. Where you're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Now I know she wasn't a real housewife, but I always think of big Ange and I'm like, Colleen would die for big an, I would off the rip her core, her core values. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Same with Tony Soprano. I know he was a bad person, but I, his core values. You do love a morally gray character. I do. You love, you love someone who's like good at heart, but does bad things. Yeah. And they're like, not the women and the children. I'm like, yes. You know the bare minimum? No. Literally. Literally they didn't kill the women or the children. They're good. They're good. I'm like, he got rid of the rapist and he is not killing women and children. We all love a morally gray character. Oh yeah, I do. Any other thoughts before we close up this extra long episode? No. I've had a lot of toxic thoughts and I'm good here. Boy. Do you feel purged? Do you feel cleansed? A little bit. Yeah, A little bit, yeah. Do you hate that? I disagreed with most of them. No, not at all. I think that's what makes this podcast so, no. Yeah, I don't care. I mean, I know that it's very us also, like I am self-aware to know that a lot of my opinions are from my delusion and or I am pretty ignorant and also not ignorant in a bad way, but like I, ignorance is bliss to me sometimes. I'm in my own bubble. That's true. But I'm very self-aware about it. That's, does that make any sense? It does. My opinions come from, or just like for fun, like they are my POB only. Alright, everybody, well, we hope you're having a great week. Have a glass of wine as you should order McDonald's and eat it in your bed. Yes, or two hot dogs. Have two hot dogs in the middle of the day. Make it three. And don't feel fucking shame about it because who actually fucking cares. Truly, who cares? It's our secret. We won't tell anyone. Oops, I lost my floss in my fri in my, that's what I was looking for, Colleen. If I find your dirty floss on this couch and on that tomorrow. All right, everybody, love you mean it. Love you mean it. Bye. Oh, I found it. 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podcast was produced by me, Bridget Shannon. Music is written and performed by Matt Derosiers. You can find his band, Super Stoker, anywhere you listen to music.