10 Toes Down

On this week's episode, Bridget recaps her trip to Spain and Colleen has stories from the Jersey Shore. The creatures were OUT and ABOUT in Jersey! We give our final thoughts on this season of Love Island USA then we get into the topic of the week... FRANK ABAGNALE, the man behind, "Catch Me If You Can". Colleen brings us on an absolutely rollercoaster of fraud, fake checks and lots and lots of vagrancy. He gets banned from Sweden and escapes out of a toilet on a moving plane? We're not buying it. Can someone please stand on business and start fact checking this man?!?! We're working pro-bono for this episode... for the FBI. 

Sources:

• The True Story Behind "Catch Me If You Can" - Buzzfeed Unsolved Network
• Frank Abagnale - Wikipedia

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I literally have nothing. No. Right. I never, you always have a song. I know I just have I just have like ticks. Like right now I have, my brain is mother needs a perch. That's all I have. No, what's the tick you have? Yeah, I was just gonna say, when she's fake, doing an accent live is rent free in your brain. That's it. So I don't have anything. Hey. Hi everybody. Hi. Welcome to this week's episode of Sipping with the Shannons. We're cousins and every other week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk shit, and we have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. I'm Colleen Shannon. What's up? What's the tea? What's popping? How's ya mother? You know, just, that's how I'm feeling. Well, I'm back from Spain. Okay. You want me to start with the wedding and then we can talk about love violence? Oh yeah. I wanna hear like, what's new, what's the tea? Hello. Okay. Well I just got back from Spain two days ago. Yellow lunatic. They did lose my luggage, but she has been found, she has been me better after than before. It, I mean it. Yes, for sure. Better. Never at all. That's true. But landing and being on your, you know, 14th hour of traveling and it's like 2:00 AM your time and they're like, you know how it spins the carousel and then they just shut it off. That's where you were. And you were like, oh yeah, she's not here. It, it also feels better to know that like 10 other people are in your same boat for whatever reason. Oh, okay. It's not just you. That's good. So you all got, I dunno why you all got the cut there. Yeah, we all got the cut and I truly didn't have the strength. I just came home and went to bed. I actually, no, that's not true. I watched two episodes of RuPaul's Drag Race, so I was caught up and then I went to bed at like 8:00 PM. I was gonna say, when you said 2:00 AM our time, I'm like, I'm thinking, wait a minute. No, my, that's what it felt in my personal body. Got it. Understood. Yeah. And then I went to bed, and then I immediately started my work day, which was not tough, not slay, but completely and utterly worth it. I had the best time in Spain. I was in Malaga. I had the cutest studio apartment you ever did see in Old Town. It was so walkable. You would have died. Like my favorite thing to do in the morning is around the corner, there was this coffee shop and they had the best avocado toast I've ever had in my life. And they would make an egg and put it on top and there was this beautiful church at the end of the street and it would toll at the hour. And just sitting outside in a cafe, enjoying my morning, enjoying my little Celsius packet. I'm just, she travels with, I travel, I bring travel packets of Celsius.'cause you can't get the cans anywhere. No. That's like seriously so crazy that I know you don't like coffee'cause duh. But that's like such a crackhead thing to do for a second in the morning every morning. Why? Because it's I don't know. How is that different than anything you do with coffee? Poop ball? I don't know. A little different. Like coffee's just more acceptable. Okay. They're both caffeine. Yeah. Bitch. It's equivalent to drinking like a Red Bull at 7:00 AM I completely disagree. I have half. I put them in the same boat. I did have two red bulls today. Oh, so you're also And a coffee and half an Adderall. But that's besides the point. Jesus just half an Addie. But I'm the crack Addie. I had things to do and I knew you'd appreciate it. I'd be like dialed in, you know. I do appreciate when you're dialed in. That is true. Yeah. I'm trying to be dialed. My dial is dialed. So I loved enjoying my mornings. And we were all super close together. We were 0.1 miles apart. So on the map it just looks like we're all at the same venue at opposite ends. Hmm. But just being able to drop Alyssa off every night and then walk 30 seconds to my door and Sage was down the street, if we needed anything we could just hop to each other's apartments. It was just so nice and fun. What I just envisioned when you said that is like on your Find My Friends is like the Gilgo Beach. So Yes, that's what I was, so I screenshotted my Find My Friends weirdly that you said that because we're all on it. That's true. So I will literally show you how close we are on the street, but it was just so fun. I was there for a wedding. Maria and Ron got married. They were the bride and Groom and I met them both in Cape Town two and a half years ago. So if you've been listening to this podcast for that long, you would. No, the trip I'm talking about, which is crazy to think about'cause my life has changed so much since then. But since then I've been to many countries with Maria. So Croatia we went to England for a weekend. I met her dad, who's the best. We went to Mexico together for New Year's. I went to Albania last year. Some of you may remember, I was in Albania. She was there for all of that. And so to see them start dating and then to see them, you know, get more serious, move in with each other, you and then get married, it's just so cool. That is cute. So a bunch of us went a little early for the wedding. It was nice to have a mini reunion the first night we got there. We're delirious from all of our travels and we get a bunch of tapas, we get some paella, and we just got a jug of sangria. What is a paella? Yeah, it's like rice and then you can get chicken, you can get seafood. It's like a big sharing dish. Like it's not meant for just one. Oh, I hate that. I hate a serving size. Yeah, don't, don't pin us down. Don't tell me how much I can eat. I've looked at the rice boxes recently. Like a rice peel off. No, the serving size is like for four and it's no, I, this is a one serving to me. Sorry. This is me this morning, this afternoon tonight and fourth dinner. Thank, thank you. So, not really sure. Amen. Not really sure why you're trying to tell us what, what amount of rice one can handle, but it's like a big pot and you can get a bunch of stuff in it and it's, it's really, really yummy. And just to sit with your girlfriends who we're all long distance. So just to sit and have a glass of wine and catch up on life is just the best Y Buty app. It's the best. So, then the wedding came, Maria and Ron arrived. We immediately took her on her bachelorette, which was like the day before the wedding festivities began. It was so much fucking fun. It was so much fun. I mean, twist our arm for a boat day, you know what I mean? No needs bag. Sorry. We're about to swim in the sea. Sounds horrible. There's a bar. Kill me. Right. Everyone was getting there that night. So both of their families, all of their friends, so all of the women invited to the wedding all took her out to dinner for tapas and it was amazing. And then we had a mini sleepover that say planned, where we like listened to Britney Spears and she was in her robe and we were all comfy, cozy, and singing. Only the girlies would understand. Yes, yes. It was just so much fun. And then that night I was a feral animal. As you should. Colleen, the girlies wanted it. I was a feral fuck. S at one point was like, you were rolling around the floor, you did a split, and then you rolled backwards and you hit a table with an active candle and the hot wax went everywhere and you did not know. You just kept rolling. You kept it moving. If someone's inviting you to such an event like they are, no, they know. They know they're doing it for that reason. They know. They know exactly what they're getting. Especially with me. And at one point my new bestie Tracy, she just looked at me dripping in sarcasm. I really wish you would come outta your shell because we just you know, we're just so shy and de Yeah, I just dunno enough about you. She was like, it's just really hard to get to know you. I don't know. It's tough. Kind of, it's kind of tough out here. No, we were dying laughing, but yeah, I was dead the next day. I may or may not have ordered McDonald's in Spain. Delivered by bicycle to my apartment and shut all the windows in. I mean, what else? All the curtains. What else is there to do? And that night was a trivia night. So I was like, I can't meet now the whole wedding and, and be in the state that I'm in because I got home at 4:30 AM No, you were doing them a favor. You just, you needed to, I just, I needed to reboot. You need to charge? No, I needed a full factory reset. Oh. A hard reset. So I reset. Okay. And then I go to trivia and they split us up into teams. So we were with like one person we knew and then all random people. Yeah. My team crushed. We did not win. I'm still bitter about it. I don't wanna talk about it, but they used our baby faces for tri. Did you see that picture? Yeah. It was so cute. And so people were walking around, they're like. This is your face. I'm like, so God, I have not changed one single ounce that perfect strangers. Oh she doesn't like, who's that Irish bitch? It be me. It be me. Ain't no hiding that. No. It just every day just got more fun. We did an another boat date and they rented it out. So it was all of us. It was just the wedding. And then we did a beach night where we all went to the beach and hung out and like I know how all of everyone's cousins and aunties and uncles and it just, the vibes were just immaculate. Every single person there. And they told us before, they were like, we invited the best people we know, but not because we had to, but because they are the best. Correct. Every single person coming is someone we wanna go. Oh my god, they're so much fun. Wait till you meet them. But we could do that about everybody. They were not joking. The amount of family vacations and holidays I have invited myself on and also been invited to is crazy. We were bumping into people on the street.'cause Molly is really small, so we were like bumping into his family. But the wedding itself was so gorgeous. Maria's dress was stunning. I, I like, can't even begin to tell you how heavy this thing was. It looked, it, it was the most immaculate thing I've ever seen a person put on. Damn. It was 15 pounds. I'm not joking. Her skirt was so heavy.'cause the, when the photographers got there, they were like, oh, can you bring out, you know how they do pictures? They do like the details. Yep. She goes, can you grab my skirt?'cause they were putting her in her top.'cause it was a two piece. I picked it up and went sorry. How she be walking? How she be dancing? Sorry. A disc in my back just moved my bad. So we put her in it. I'm not kidding you, we were at the venue probably around noon at 8:45 PM I said, how the fuck is she still in that dress? It is so hot. We are talking July. In Spain, close to Africa, so south of Spain. Hot, yikes. UV index. There's not enough numbers for it. And this bitch is in a long sleeve, full skirt. At one point she said, guys, the slip that's closest to my feet, it's catching on my heels. Can you guys go fix it? Top skirt tool. Satin tool, satin tool sa. I was like, where are you? Are you, are you in the middle of this? Can you breathe? She did great. She was like, guys, I had a fan. I really didn't struggle as much as you would think. Mm-hmm. She looked absolutely stunning. I cried every single time I looked at her. I came in and I had my makeup done and I brought a bunch of stuff like, you know, the classics, like the champagne and the, all the, all the tangs setting spray, just in case we need it later, all that stuff. And they were like, have you seen Maria yet? And I thought her makeup wasn't done yet. And they put a headpiece on her and then they put jewelry because Ron's Indian, the groom, so that she did this half Indian, half classic wedding. And so she had an earring that hooked to her hair almost like a chandelier. Oh, cute. It wa She turns me and her makeup was done. I burst into tears. I go, I'm already, it was too soon. I just couldn't. She looked so stunning. There's a picture of them and they're facing the sun and they have sunglasses on and the light was hitting them. They were sh I go, you guys look like Jay-Z and Beyonce. I'm not even trying to be dramatic. Edward Cullen could never No, no. You are glistening in the sun shining by like a it was crazy. It was crazy. So it just was so much fun and it was beautiful and no one wore like dull colors. The color scheme was all, so it was like purples and blues and oranges and yellows and greens, like everyone's outfits were so on fucking point. The speeches were beautiful. Ser crushed it. The dads were so funny. In heartfelt. It's the best food I've ever had at a wedding, like hands down, oh, I didn't tell you this. So it's tradition, right? So they come out and the groom comes out, and this is Maria still up there with her dad? Like she's waiting to come out. Mm-hmm. The groom always makes an entrance at an Indian wedding. And so at this one, they gave each of us streamers and then they gave us tambourines, like literally little, oh, I love that. Mini tambourines. And so we're all cheering and blah, blah, blah, blah. One of his cousins comes up to me and he's like, it's tradition that someone on the bride side tries to steal the groom's shoes. Sorry. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, no, what? Every single wedding you try to steal the groom's shoes. And I was like, is this a prank? And he's like, no, you need to go do it right now. And he holds up his phone and he hits record. So I obviously go full tilt at the groom's feet. Do you know what cousin Nimal did not tell me is that the groom size tries to stop it. So I was then fighting like five grown adults for this man's shoes. And instead of stopping being like, wait, why are these people, they must have a reason. I leaned all the way in. And so there's a video of me like trying to tackle him and in their kerfuffle, stop in the scuffle. I slammed my foot so hard against, I don't know which human at this point, and I'm immediately stand up and go, my toe is broken. I just, I just knew it. I was like, my toe is broken. Something is incorrect. But I like giggle and I walk off and I stand with the group and then the ceremony started and I'm sitting in the sun watching my beautiful best friend marry the love of her life with a broken toe. And I'm crying and I can feel my foot just swelling inside of my shoe. I has a heartbeat. I look down, it's already blue. I'm like, Did I just break my toe in the middle of a Spanish, like in Spain at a wedding? Correct. Because a cousin told me to do it and I asked for no follow up details. Yeah. Afterwards, he's like, no. So I didn't tell you the full story on that, correct. Sorry. Is that The bride side tries to steal them, and if you successfully get the groom shoes, the groom has to pay you to get them back. And you set the price. Oh. And then you have to negotiate. He literally can't go home without his shoes. Got it. But he's like, I didn't tell you that he wouldn't want you to do that because they're trying to get, they don't wanna pay you. Right. And I was like, fair. Would have probably done this differently had I known I would have been fought instead. You were like, yep, got it girl. But it was funny. When I say fought, I use that very loosely. They were like, no, don't take this. There's men like physically beating you. No, they were just like pushing me and like grabbing him and he, yeah, it was really funny there. This is all on video by the way. And so I, after the ceremony. Put my feet in the pool. There was a pool there. I'm like, the feet have to go in the pool. And then I pull my friend Andrea, and we walked up to the room that Maria sat in before she came out, and I burst into tears and she was like, are you okay? And I was like, my foot is broken. And she looks at it and she's like, okay, so it doesn't look great. And I was like, I luckily brought a medicine pack of a bunch of different things in case Maria got like a headache. Like I brought electrolytes, like I brought a little bunch of stuff. So I luckily had ibuprofen. And then my friends are the absolute best humans. During cocktail hour, they had me sit down. So, because I was like, I do not wanna make a thing of this. No one tells Maria, no one tells Ron we're not being dramatic about it. We are. This is a suck it up moment. We will, what am I gonna do? Because what am I gonna, I'm gonna go to a hospital and they're gonna tape it to the other toe and go, have a good night. Yeah. No, not, not today, Sayan, we are not doing this. They, in cocktail hour, they would steal me ice. And they would put it down on the ground and I would just put my foot on top of it. So no one knew, but I had to switch my shoes. Yeah. So in some of the pictures you'll see me in Birkenstocks or you'll see me barefoot. I apologize. I'm sorry. That is not the look I was going for. You had to either, you had to do, you have to do, the foot was broken. Like I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, your toenail's definitely gonna fall off. Is that not so gross? I mean, it's really not. It is right now. It doesn't look that bad Colleen. No. Like that just looks like someone who like a runner's foot that looks like a runner's toe. This took, these feet look like they've been through numb. When I tell you my pedicures stay for a solid month, this lasted a week and a half and it looks like I put them through a chainsaw. Fair enough. So I don't think it's broken.'cause I obviously walked a lot afterwards, so I don't think it's broken, but it's. It's not cute. It's toe up a little bit. It's the toe is toe up the toe. This is really not helping my foot finder. No, no. I think we take a, I think we take a beat on the foot finder for now. Maybe. Maybe we need to pause on foot finder. So anyway, the toe, it's totally fine. But how about this? So after shoe gate, right? I go down, you know, dinner happens, I'm sneaking ice under the table, right? Dinner's amazing. The speeches are amazing. They're about to open the dance floor. And Ron's brother-in-law comes up to me and he's like, so what's your game plan on sailing the shoes? And I was like, I don't have one because now ev he's gonna know it's me. So if I go up to him.'cause he was like, why don't you go up and say oh. And I go, no, I have a target on my back now they're gonna know. And I go, what about the pool? And he goes, we're gonna wait until he jumps in the pool and I'm gonna hand them to you. Perfect. And I go, okay, say less. So. We have cocktail hour. The band starts, right? We're all on the dance floor. And I look over at the pool and my friend Tracy is like, hanging. And I'm like, you know what? It's really hot. And I kind of want this whole thing to start shifting to the pool. I know in my soul, we're gonna jump in. It's only a matter of time. So like, I'm just gonna migrate over. Yeah. See what falls and, and take a seat, right? Slowly but surely, everyone starts milling about and then people start jumping in the pool, And so when you think of me, right on a good day, not on a broken toe day, and you see a pool at a wedding, what do you think I'm gonna do? Jump in immediately. Of course. So all of my friends are in the pool and they're like, what the fuck are you doing? The foc? And I'm like, I'm just not ready yet. And they're like, Bridget, get your ass Maria's dad. Danny tried to physically pull me in the pool by my foot, and I went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.'cause first of all, the toe, second of all, I don't have the shoes yet. Yeah. And he was like, the mission is not complete. The mission isn't accomplished yet. Lo and behold, Maria and Ron finally jump in the fucking pool. And so I am biting my time. I'm still getting yelled at and I'm just giving every excuse in the book. And his brother-in-law just drops the shoes and I hold them up and everyone starts cheering. And I was like, yeah. And then I jumped to the pool naturally. So I to just probably like, oh my God, my toe's never been happier. Um, And it ended up really working out for me because the dance floor was in the pool. Like the band at one point shifted to face us in the pool'cause it was the opposite side of the dance floor. Yeah. And they were like, they're clearly not going anywhere. I have never been to a wedding where the dance floor was in the pool. I cannot recommend it enough. We were so hot and it was like the perfect, it was so much fun. And we got such delight out of watching like the aunts, the uncles, the parents, like all, you know, the cousins do cannonballs little kids to grown ass adults. It was so much fun. I love that. And there was no weight on my foot. I'm in a pool. So it really worked out for me, and I got the shoes. I did try to you know, I, I pulled all the cousins and I was like, how much, how much do the shoes go for at normal weddings? Give me the tea. I'm, I'm not used to this. And they were like, a hundred bucks, a hundred euro. I'm like, that's a fucking lot of money. Like what? Really? I was feeling a lot of pressure though. And Veronica was like, Hey, do you have my shoes? And I was like, can you just tell all your cousins I robbed you blind? Can, I'm gonna give them to you. But because I, I'm actually feeling, I'm feeling the pressure, I'm feeling too much pressure. But please tell your cousins like, I took you for everything you were worth. And he was like, deal. And then we ended up at Morrisey's, a famous Irish bar in Malaga. I was there nearly every night, shout out to Morrisseys. And then we went to a nightclub and I was out till 4:30 AM doing the splits and popping my pussy. And that was the wedding. And the next day they had this lovely goodbye. They, they, we went to a coffee shop. Everyone got a coffee and a donut. Such good donuts. I should not have been out in public. Like there, there was a photo sent at 4:35 AM of me eating McDonald's in bed. I was at that coffee shop at nine. I had no business being there. That's not a ton of time. It's not. You're a woman who shows You're so selfless. I no, it was not. I was, but I just wanted to say goodbye to everyone. Yeah. Like I genuinely wanted to say goodbye to the aunties and the uncles and the parents and all that stuff. I should not have been out in public. I looked, that's the day I tried to creep away and do the Irish exit. Mm-hmm. I was not Well, but don't worry gang, we bounced back. And we had a couple more days. We got to, we found, like I did the more touristy stuff. We went to rooftop bars and Yapped and decompressed and I hung out with my new friends and me and my friend Jess went to a pool and just did a pool day. One day Tracy and I got crazy, like it just was Tracy. Tracy. Yeah. I just met so many people that I, I'm not just friends with now. I'm actively gonna seek these people out in the future. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. They're people I genuine, genuinely and done not No, no. We're still in the, the group chat still popping off from the wedding. And I was like, you have to plan a reunion. There needs to be like a vow renewal. I'm so obsessed with these people and they had told us our biggest thing is that we really want people to interact. So by the end, you know everybody. And you don't just sequester yourself to your group of friends. Yeah. Mission fucking accomplish. I have never been to a wedding where by the end of it, everyone was so close and tight knit and truly enjoyed each other's company in the way that happened at this wedding. Yeah. That's crazy actually. Big fan. Loved it. My heart is full. My battery is on EI cannot look at a Pat Bravos right now. I know it's a potato. I can't, I can't have one more tapas. Oh. So what I will tell you, Tinto de Verano, I know I'm pointing at her as if she's not in front of me and I'm not looking at her. Yes. Tinto de Verano Okay. Is a better sangria. Okay. Plot twist, right? That I would ever put sangria below something. Yes. It's less sweet and more wine. Oh, we love that. It's so fucking good. And it's the drink. And so I essentially had 45,000 Tinto de veranos naturally, so fucking yummy. It just was a beautiful city. It was a beautiful wedding with the best people and the most fun. I do need a vegetable, and I do need, like last night I went to bed at 8:00 PM and I woke up at eight 30 and was like, you needed it. Oh, some rest and resuscitation. Oh, did I also mention I fell asleep on this couch. So I slept not only 12 hours, but on a couch, because that's how comatose I was. That doesn't surprise me. You do have narcolepsy. I do have the narcs. I do have the narco lipps. All right. Where do you gonna go next? Do you know? I want to go everywhere, which is kind of the problem. No, I know. You always have a plan. I don't have a plan, and I think that's why I'm struggling. Okay. There's no next, there's not even like a trip on the horizon. There are no ideas being thrown out. There's not a time of year thrown out. There's not a, that means that doesn't mean anything. You know? I can plan that myself, but yeah. I always like to come home with something else to look forward to, but at least it's summer. Yeah. There's so many fun things. There's so many birthdays. There's so many. You're not like trapped here in the winter. Right. If I came home and this was the case in January, I would be like on watch. Yes. Cool. Do a wellness check on your girl. Got it. If I was rich, I'd go somewhere with you, but I am poor, so one day I'm gonna be very, very wealthy. And I'm gonna be able to buy us first class tickets to go wherever the fuck we want. So don't worry. Okay. That'll, that's coming. All right. Let's manifest that for you. Let's just hope foot finder pans out for me once this toe does whatever the fuck it's doing right now. What if your to never returns to health? You know the SNL Like I'm Holly. Yeah, I'm Nora. Yep. Those are your toes. And that's Kristen wig. That is my pinky toe. She's seen better days, but she's really, she's not. I was expecting you to have a crooked toe bitch. What do you think that is? I'm telling you, I think you are around your disgusting toes so much that you can't tell when these beautiful feet, these beautiful toes are sideways. This is the ugliest my feet have ever looked in. It's life. My of are gross. They're just calling short. They're short and stout calling just like me. Don't call yourself that. I am short and stout. Here is my handle. Here's my, is my spiral. That do be me. How about that? Oh, anyway, that's the last two weeks of my life. What about you? That's a sleigh. Not much, you know? I did go to the Jersey Shore for the 4th of July. Not much to say about it, to be honest. I really enjoyed being able to be ratchet for what felt like one last weekend of my life for some reason, not of my life. Why? No. I just feel like I'll never be able to be that ratchet in that young, in Jersey ever again. Do you know what I mean? I mean, that is. Factually accurate. So that's how I felt. So that's, we were just really trying to like, you know, but it was turn it up where we all silently knew we will not do this again. Do you know what I mean? Unless it's well, especially not for the 4th of July. It's just, it's too many humans. Do you know what I totally get what you mean. This happened one year with Sacco. Yes, it's, yes, it's exactly what it was made. You're like, oh, I've aged out. Yeah, this is the last year I can get away with this. Like, People are our age there, but I just was like, this isn't, I don't know, I just dunno how I'll feel next year. Yeah. But whatever fair. We did get really silly the lines, the people downright inhumane at night during the day. It was totally fine. Stunning weather. No complaints about that. It was sunny every fucking day. Oh, I love that. Yeah. We obviously spent, because it's really hit or miss. No, it is.'cause everything's outside. So if it's raining, like it just kind of, I mean like our vibes would still be high, but like the, the activities would be not what we Right plan to do. Right. We did spend a day, of course, in Seaside, just like for a couple hours because we could not go to the shore without, again going to sea. All of our Jersey shore stops places. You have to. Yes. Obviously like the the, they raised us. We had to pay our respects. Yes, absolutely. To elders. Usual. We had to go to j the shore store. Danny was still there because obviously Is that where you made one of those tiktoks? Yes, we did make a TikTok there. It just felt right. Oh, the bartender you saw, what's her name again? Oh, Paula. So we'll get there. We went to e j's. We went into, mind you, I dunno if I've ever talked about this before, but it's so deceiving.'cause obviously in the show they, when they have to go to work at the shore store, they act like they're walking like 10 miles and they're fucking really late for work. You know, it's a whole thing. It's literally connected. Like the top of the shore store is the porch. You knew this right now? No. Okay. So yeah. In, you know, their top floor? Yeah. That's the top of the shore store. There's a door. Why are they all acting like they, I don, you know, where they smoke outside and the, the picnic table is no. At their house. Oh, the back. I, I didn't watch it a lot. I won't lie to you. The backyard. I watched it every single week. Yeah, the backyard, you go through the sliding door and it see where they would smoke outside their cigs? Yes. That, that attaches to the shore store. You can go into the shore store from there. Oh, like everyone get a grip. Yeah. So, and insane. I mean, one time Sn asked, where's the beach? While she was on the pier. So like, I mean, iconic trying times. The, the Danny, that man Danny at the shore store is the luckiest man on the fucking Earth. Earth. Those earth producers on earth. They just got the right amount of pe the right people. I was gonna say the right time, the right place, place, right time. Like, uh, Magic was made. I have not felt the same since I came off here. Obviously like, uh, Jersey Shore Family Vacations on, but it just, it isn't the same. So many iconic quotes. You just, you just can't get any better than that one thing. I will say they, someone can tell them that they can in fact renovate. They don't, it's not a, it smells a shrine. No. It smells like, it smells, it smells, there's definitely like a smelly smell in there and it's fine. Like the, the bed is still broken from when Sammy and Ron broke it. It's just, it ha has literally not changed. The pillows are the same, the bedding is the same. Get the fuck out of here. No, no. It's literal. Oh, they're really, well, you know what? If it's a stop, people really wanna Yeah. Have that. It's, it's like changing the friend's couch. It's like you're not really gonna do that. That's true. At the central perf at the friend's apartment is nice, like the jersey short and it's in retrospect, not nice. Right. Also mind you, the workers like keep their lunch in that fridge, like the workers at the shore store. So they were coming in, I saw a guy open the door and get ketchup and then go back to the shore store. Oh, okay. It's costs 10 bucks to walk through you. You get like 15 minutes in there. You just get to do it. It's a free for all. You do whatever the fuck you want. The, the duck phone is not connected to anything. It's literally a wooden phone. There's no, oh my God. The duck phone. There's no cords, there's nothing. But I've been there before, so I like knew, but I, I never, I never did the tour. A museum. Yeah. It's just you know, I felt different. I left feeling a little bit different. You know, the air was different. I was ready to pop my pussy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's whatever. We went to ejs, where they go to on the show. We met this lovely woman, first of all. The spirit of Toby Keith ran through us this week. That week. That particular weekend brought to you courtesy of the red, white and blue it usually? Yes. So it usually does like we RIP, Toby Keith, Fiona actually looked at me at one point dead serious and was like, if I went to a medium, I know the first person threw to me is Toby Keith. Do you know who you're starting to sound like Robin Williams is coming through? I'm ascending. It sounds like mother fucking, I would say if Fiona did, but however, so we go to ejs. It's all like exactly what you think would be the types of people at a dirty dive bar right in the middle of the day. Yeah. We have meet a best friend, I don't know her name, but she is an older woman, she's covered in tattoos, has a Harley Davidson t-shirt on. She is like all has a Bud light in her hands. Like she is just that bitch. Yeah. Naturally. Some song is on, I don't really know. And Erin goes, oh, you know, they have a jukebox. I wanna request Toby Keith, as she finishes her sentence, courtesy of the red, white, and blue comes on American girls. We were popping our puss. Everyone was staring, but not in like, disgust. And I, I want, not like I wanna be them, but I wanna be them. Love. Yeah. They look like they're having the best time. No like, love those bitches. So we had a, we had a grand old time, like the bartender was missing teeth, we went to another bar down, down yonder that I actually had been to before.'cause they have a rooftop bar. So we were just bopping. We had a drink at each place. And as we're walking to go upstairs Fiona goes, oh my God. And we're like, what? And she's like the bartender. That's Paula. And we were like, what? And I looked to my right, who is the bartender? But Paula, Mike's iconic girlfriend from an entire season of fucking Jersey Shore. Erin is in the leading the herd. So she's walking, she keeps walking. Erin's one of those people that doesn't really look behind her, so if she's walking in front of you and you stop, forget about it, she's a mile down the road before she even notices you're not behind her. She comes back and as she turns, she's what? And Fiona goes, that's Paula. Without missing a beat, just goes right up to the bar and goes, Paula leans over the bar and hugs her. Like she has not seen her best friend in years. No. And Paula did not hesitate. Oh, Paula bless her. But I don't know what the tea is because like the bartenders that were with her we're like, oh, do you know them? But it's do, do you know who you're bartending with? Do you not know who that do you know what I mean? Yeah. And Fiona is this not a normal thing that happens to Paula on the rug? It's a rug. So, no, she's never gotten a dime. From the show at all. She was on my entire fucking season. Maybe two, I don't remember, but, and so Fiona's just oh yeah. Have you casual conversation. Have you talked to Mike at all? She goes, I haven't seen him or spoken to him in 15 years. Holy shit. You're telling me that we recognize this girl and this man has, has not seen our, spoken to her. She just yapped with us for a little while. She gave us free shots. She was a sweetie. Oh, but something ain't right. Yeah, she's troubled for sure. Sweet baby Angel had a, had a grand old time. We're like, bye, nice to see you. Like we're seeing an old friend. It was hilarious. Then after I was like, did we really just do that as if like we knew her? Like we didn't? Yeah, like we just saw an old friend. We didn't stand. We just spoke to her as if we No, casually. That's correct. As I'm talking to you, Erin. No hesitation. Oh my god. Paula, what's up? Hey girl. Hug across the bar. Crazy love. What am I missing? Okay. The Montana man. So one of the nights at the bar, we meet a man a nice gentleman. He has a cowboy hat on. He has a big old belt buckle. He has an accent. He's talking to, he, we befriend him. He's we spend the, the rest of our evening with him. Like he was just, we're just having a good time with him and he has a couple friends and we're just ignoring the friends, whatever. One thing about us, we find like one character and we just have a ball. There's no one else we need. So this was our friend for the night. I still don't know his name. I don't remember, but we're having a look. He's talking about his mama. He is just a sweet angel. He's asking like, does he have a chance with Aaron? And I'm like, oh yeah, you got a chance, whatever, go. Oh my God. Kick that ass. And he's holding a souvenir and he's I'm bringing it home to my mom. That's why I ha I'm not, I can't get rid of it. It's like a cup or a pale or something. Grand old time all night. He's like inviting us on the boat tomorrow. He was like, it's my friend's boat. But you're more than welcome. It takes my number. Perfect. Twist my arm for a boat day. I never, I was like, the only chance we, no, we didn't follow up on it. We had plans the next day. It was just like not a vibe. Flash forward to a different night. I think it's either the next night or the night after that, or in line at a different bar. I turn around and who do I see? Right behind me in line is Montana man. Montana man is not Montana man. Montana man is in full normal clothing, no twang, nothing. He is fully not from Montana. So we say under God, Hey, Montana boy like me. It's just me and Fiona in line at this point. And he's like, confused. And then he's like, oh yeah, there was one more of you talking about Aaron. And we're like, yeah. And he was like, we were like, yeah, you are cowboy the other night. And he goes, yeah, I was a cowboy the other night. I, I am so on people's bullshit. Wait, I was duped. He is fully not, I don't know where he is from. I didn't even, we just were like in fully normal clothing. Completely different voice. Wait, what the fuck? He completely duped us. I don't know. I have, we didn't follow that for Fonzie. Must have been, but the way he was like, yeah, it was the other night. It was a bit. We spent our whole evening, my jaw is on. No, we spent our entire evening with this man. Like he was like two stepping with Fiona. Was there even a boat? I don't know about that. He didn't follow up with me via text, but, Wow, that's great. And I specifically felt because I'm, he must get laid that way. He must, I don't know, but I am on people's bullshit. I had not announced I, he was, seemed so genuine. I would be the first to be like, this guy's annoying. Like he's obviously like, yeah, yeah, he's faking this. No, not a single clue. And I wasn't even that drunk. This was the night that I was overwhelmed because there were too many people and I cried that I was not drunk. Like you were led astray. I was, yeah. I was bamboozled. Bamboozled. Some, some would say I felt like I, I had to reevaluate myself like, I don't know, but whatever. It's fine. Wow, that's fucking wild. I've learned, you know, this day and age, mother really needs a perch. Mother will look for a perch anywhere and a bathroom. Yeah. Don't even get me started on the bathroom lines like these people, where are your bladders? Just like a lot bigger than mine. I don't know what's going on. I need a catheter or I'm not going out. I a girl's gotta pee. What's a girl to do? I just feel as though bathrooms. Are a necessity, like a basic human being. If you are gonna let a thousand people in, why do you have a two bath? Why do you have a two stall bathroom that's fucking crazy. And also this is a fire hazard. There's too many people in here, a fire hazard. I want space to play. I don't really care about the people, I don't care about that shit. I just want a little four by four space to play and not have to wait 45 minutes for drink at one point. I think that's totally fair. At one point, Erin, actually, you had to wait for so long for a drink at any of the bars.'cause there's multiple bars in each vicinity. That's just like how the Jersey bars are. Yeah. And she went and grabbed a guy that was at the front and was, had her phone open and was like, I will Venmo you for, for 40 kilo sodas right now. And she Venmo moed him for, because when you're up there you could literally say, I'll take 10 tequila sodas. But it's also what people are doing. They're going up there and they're like, wow, we're up here. We're getting 20. No, it was actually,'cause we don't have a choice. It was actually just that busy. Like genuinely. No, I mean, like, I know. Oh yeah. Everybody in the bar knows it's that busy. So when they're going up and instead getting the two drinks for the two people who need a refill, they're like the 15 people I'm with, I'm just getting the round for everybody. It's, it ain't it. But that is not fucking, actually, she's like, why did I Venmo this Joe Schmoe? And then she's oh, right, right, right. Another thing that happened that was important to note one of the other nights we went to a different bar that we all were extremely drunk, all extremely feral, being silly. And we all at one point realized that. We were all separated, like we all were in a different realm. It was what on Earth. Like I was looking for them and I was like, I was sitting at the bar by myself at one point, just like having a grand old time. Fiona was with this man, Aaron was with this man. And I made a friend. Like we just were all just like all out and about, just being feral. At one point, Fiona was up at the, a loft at the bar and she saw, I saw me from below and I could tell it was her by the way she was dancing. Oh my God. So I was waving, my God, and she said she just saw me go through the crowd like this, waving like a psycho just to make sure it was her. Oh my God. So we all were separate, just being like so stupid, being cies, just running all over the bar, like mad women in and outta the bar. There's, because there's multiple obviously, so it's like inside you go and there's a live band outside, there's a dj, we're just running around running amuck. We met a group of guys and there was four of us and four of them. Right. So I am, they're all chatting like for specific reasons obviously. And I'm at the bar with this one guy and I'm like shooting the shit with him or whatever, and. I obviously tell him like, I have a boyfriend or whatever, and'cause we were talking about it. Ooh, no, I, I know and I feel so icky to say out loud, but he was like, I love it. Oh. He goes, oh, my name's John. And I'm like, oh, that's, I didn't say that. Oh God, that's so funny. That's boyfriend. I didn't say that, but I was just like, oh, like nice to meet you. I'm Colleen. Whatever. Or just shooting the shit. Yeah. And then he's oh, I'm a plumber. Oh. So I'm like, oh wait, I have to share it. But that's so weird because my boyfriend is literally named John. He thought it was lying also a Palmer. That's hilarious. And he was like, no, I feel like you're lying. So then we're going on and on, whatever. And he comes to, he ends up being at the next bar we're at too. So we're still yapping. And I'm like, okay, so fancy meeting you here. Yeah. So I'm like, sir, like what? What's your, he bought me a drink, like we were just chatting and then I was like, what's your type? Like I'll help, I'll help you out while I'm sitting here. Oh, wing woman. Yeah. What the fuck else am I gonna do? The other three are all preoccupied with my friends. Sure. Am I gonna do, do talk to a wall? So might as well talk to John the plumber, at one point he is like, oh yeah, like my type is someone with like tanner skin Italian um, okay. He was like, yeah, I was disappointed that I found out that you were like, not single or whatever. He was like, you were like ideal you know, tan skin.'cause I had spray tan Italian. I was gonna say the fuck. So I was like, obviously cosplaying an Italian woman. Apparently I'm in Jersey and I wanna spray tan. Mind you, I'm couldn't be a more Irish. My name is Colleen. Colleen Shannon. I know. I'm like, this man doesn't need my full government name. But I was like, I was like, huh. And he goes, yeah. And you know, someone who's not too skinny. And I wasn't offended, but I, it went right over my head. And then I was like, I wanted to be like, let me help, if I'm helping you, John the plumber, you do not speak to women like that. And I'm thinking to myself, John the plumber, shut the fuck up. And I, I know he didn't even he just genuinely, he didn't clock it. And he didn't clock it. But I was like, that is like an insane thought to have in your brain. And it's fine. But to say it out loud was crazy. I'm sorry. But if you said that to him and you were like, yeah, I like guys who aren't that tall and are a little bald, they would lose their fucking minds. Yep. So that was that. And I just let that one go and I was giggling to myself, but just, just know. I know. Oh my God. I couldn't wait to tell you. I was like, we're just gonna lose it when that, that's needless to say. I didn't help. Fucking crazy. I did not help a brother out. Yeah. We let, we let Brother John find his own way after that. Yeah. I took Brother John's drink and then off I went to find a hot dog because they have hot, they have hot dogs at bars. Okay. That's just asking for it. No, they, that's not even our fault. Have they have hot dogs everywhere? Bridgette. Hot dogs fucking everywhere the way. Oh, one thing I forgot tell you about Should be, I forgot. Tell you about this. This is very important and it's really quick, I promise. We were out at dinner. Okay. We went to this place that we knew that was gonna be bumping and we purposely got dinner before we went to the bar part, the fun bar part, because we could just sneak in. Sure. We'd have to wait in line. So we started to get dinner. It's like normal families, normal adults, like behind us. And we are, we have a martini and there's a couple behind us who the man is clearly like a little drunk little junky monkey. And I would assume at least he's being very loud and all of a sudden he is screaming at the girl at the table behind us. No, unacceptable. And my back is to them so I can hear them clear as day. But everyone we're all like. We're obviously trying to listen, so we're like listening on this girl. He's just yelling at her like, I couldn't even recall everything. It was just like, you're wrong. Just like degrading her basically. She starts crying at one point. Oh no. So she's like crying and he's screaming at her and he's no one is intervening. No one is saying anything. So it's not too bad. It's like at the point where you could, but we're awkward and he's clearly a dick and he's like throwing things on the ground, like he's shit based. Clear as day. Mm. Yeah. So we're just kind of ignoring them, whatever. At, at one point he does get up and go to the bathroom, and when he does that, we turn around and we're like, are you okay? And she's yeah, yeah. She's embarrassed. So then we feel bad'cause we're not like trying to No, I'm just like, checking on your girly pop, like whatever. And I was like, I think one of us might've said we're getting drunk at this point. So I think one of us might've been like, you deserve better than that. Or something. Just kind of like, yeah, get, I'd be running out the fucking door and, and I go, are you, are you sure? Just are you sure you're all right? Yeah. And she's and she was like, yeah. And we turned back around and she told him. That someone a, and so he gets loud and he's like, so you're telling me if I asked, they're not gonna lie. You're not lying. You didn't just make that up like screaming at her. And at this moment I'm like this because I didn't hear her tell him. She whispered it so quietly. She must have been like, they asked me if I was okay don't you feel like an idiot kind of thing. Oh, and Erin's putting on lipstick next to me and mid-sentence stops and goes. Yeah, we did ask her if she was okay and then she's yeah, yeah. And then she turns and we were like, Erin, and she was like, what? You're gonna talk about me as if I'm not here? Yeah, we heard you and so therefore I asked you Don't talk about me. I'm right here. I'll tell you I am I, but my jaw dropped to the floor and he's just getting really loud with her. But then things get weird. Then they start getting like kind of weird, like they're kind of giggly and then he's getting louder and saying more absurd things that it's like he can't be serious. He's I like what? I can't go home and fuck you in the ass. Like crazy. Sorry. I would never use that term. Verbiage, family don't come me. Whoa, absurd things. And then like she's giggling. So then after a while we're like, is this a fucking. There's some kinks happening in the Jersey shore, so it was a bit, it was a complete, because then we were like, okay, you're being absurd now. And like she's giggling and then he starts to giggle and it was absurd that they, what the fuck is happening? They were, they were like, play fighting. This is like the beginning of, for Christmases. But worse. Yes. Bitch, I'm talking to you. No. Yes, but worse. And so we were like, okay, so this is weird. So now we just have to ignore them. And we asked the waitress about it after,'cause we had the same waitress. And she goes, you know when a table comes in and you just know they're gonna be fucking weird? I have been ignoring them all night. I took their order and haven't been back since. I refuse. I want nothing to do with them. Oh my God. That waitress is like, no, we were, how fuck it, we don't have the time. She goes, you see us, we're giggling, we're kiking. I didn't even, I haven't been fucking over there in two hours. I don't care. I know, I know when to avoid a table. You know? She like, I'm the same way. I know when I'm like, I, we're not, we're not fucking with these people. We see each other. Yeah. But that was that. That's all you need to know about Jersey. But oh my god. Weird things were happening. The people were out. The people were out about, the creatures were out, including us. The creatures were crawling, including us. Uh, Me and Tracy were at a bar one night. We went to a rooftop bar and I was talking about how I hate men and we were just talking about our overall male experience. And I said, I'm gonna try to put out a nicer vibe. In the world towards men, not because I wanna like them, just because I think that at a bar I can start off nice and then get mean when they deserve it. Yeah. Versus just starting off with like, what, what, what is it that you need from us in this moment? What do you want? What to like, I just start there. And so we're, we're gonna go back to like when they have to earn me being mean, which like, whatever. And so yeah, I said, I like this Tracy, what I like what she's saying to you. And so Tracy's like, it doesn't make you stupid to ignore past experiences, but it's just let's start here, then let's refresh it. And then when those instincts kick in, then go full tilt. Yeah. But you shouldn't until it's prompted. Until it's prompted. So as don't assume, as we are having this conversation, two men who are so small, they're basically la boo boos, LA foos, la foos. Walk over to us. These men are from middle Earth. These men sold their soul to the devil to crawl their way onto this planet. Oh, they are literal creatures of the night. And I just look at her and she just starts dying laughing. And she's like, she's don't, right. Yeah. We're starting. And I'm like, hello gentlemen, something we can help you with. And we ended up having a lovely conversation with them until,'cause they, it turns out they were from Ireland. And so of course like I dive right in and we started talking about Ireland. Yep. And then one of them. Just truly tough to look at. Says, sorry, what was that, Bridget? I couldn't hear you. I'm gonna come sit closer to you. I'm sick. And I look at Tracy and I'm like, here we fucking go. Right? So he, he gets like a stool and he sits in front. I was sitting on a couch, so I'm glad he didn't get like onto the couch. I literally wouldn't have moved. I just wouldn't have. He sits on a stool and so we're talking about Ireland and then he goes, were you guys raised Catholic? And I'm like, yeah, wh why? And he goes, Jesus is the Messiah. Was he dead serious? Dead serious. It's giving Jehovah. I go, do you have a minute to talk about our word and Savior, Jesus Christ? I literally went, okay. Hallelujah. I just said, I just, yeah, listen, I just said, just'cause you believe something. Right. I love that for you. I just don't believe everyone else should believe the same thing. Yeah. I don't really give a shit what you believe in, to be honest. Correct. And he was like, okay. So Jesus is the Messiah though. It's definitely Jesus because dude, they found a robe and there we go. And they found the thorn crown. Where is it? And he said, and Jesus was a real man. And I said, okay, but what makes him the Messiah? Like I, I fair on the first part. What about the second? And he was like, that's enough for me to believe. And I was like. Great. So you keep your belief and you shut up and cheers. Have a drink, be fucking normal. And he goes, oh, is it because you're from Boston? All of the pre stuff in Boston. And I was like, whoa, this is getting so hot. No, we're spiraling and I don't care. And then I was like, try sake what? I say, I'm out. I'm out. I've reached my limit. I'm out. Dude. He's about to bring up politics in religion, in fucking abortion in the middle of the bar. Sick. No. Meanwhile, you know what the guys in Jersey were doing? What? What? Hey, can I pull you for a chat? Stop. No. Like in Love Island, UK. Love island, period. We, we haven't talked about Love Island yet. We're getting there. We're getting there. That's the last thing we always do before the story. I know, but we're an hour in and we haven't Well, it is what it's, I don't have any giggles at the end. I just have the story and I'm Okay. Perfect. Perfect. You know I'm a lot quicker than you, respectfully. That's totally fair. That's totally fair. Understood. Yes. Okay, sorry, go ahead. But if a man ever was like, can I pull your Chad? I'd be like, pants down. Can I pull you for a chat? Yeah. But they knew what they were doing. They thought it was hilarious. Oh my. Smart. It's fucking smart. And also there was a weird line somewhere and they text you when your reservation's ready and the girl behind me goes, I got a text. I turned around. I go, that was fucking funny. I appreciate that. There's a culture shift happening and there is, um. i'm here for it. That's all. The last thing I have is that I went to York, Maine for the weekend. Never been there. Really cute. Really cozy, big fan. Oh, love York, Maine. Yeah. Loved it. Never been Water's too cold though. Can't even put your fucking toe in it. They kept saying that and I was like, I think you guys are being dramatic. And they were like, okay, miss Cape Cod. I was like, what? True. When we were kids, you could not put your toe in it. Now with global warming, probably different. No, you can't. You still can't. You still can't. They said it like your you too blue. Numb the whole thing. Yes. it is the coldest water I've ever been in my life saying That is York man. Yeah, they were saying that. They were saying that. I didn't believe him and here we are. Which like if I'm going to the beach Yeah. And it's the summer and it's hot as balls. What is the fucking point if I can't get in the water? No, I know. So that's that off season was man's thoughts. That was man's thoughts too. Oh yeah. But like off season love. Yeah. Never been off season. I've never been at all. Loved it. Loved it. Stoned. Big fan. Went to the lighthouse, saw all the shit. It was cool. Okay, now we can talk about Love Island. You're at peace now. Okay. So I'm obviously caught up even though I've only been home for two and a half days. And Amaya papaya. I, there was a moment in time where I was like, get this girl off my screen. Same. And now I'm like, okay. She ends up being my favorite. I'm so happy for her. I literally, the last time we recorded, we were both done for her. Do you know when the, the tides changed for Amaya Papaya when she, you know, got all the anonymous shit. Oh. Stood at that podium. Podium and cried. And she said, God forbid I'm an emotional gangster. And then she talked about being the cup of tea that you shouldn't drink. Yeah. And then Brian stood up for her. Why didn't, no one, why? I didn't, I was very unimpressed with the girly pop. S Okay, we'll we'll talk about that. But she ends up Amaya Papaya for the win, the people's princess. Her and Brian loved them. Shipped them. Yeah. Here for it completely. Can't wait for them to come home and him, her to visit him. And they're gonna go to Encore probably. Oh my God. For sure. Gonna go to Encore for sure. Gonna end up at some douchey bar in Boston. No. Yeah. I can't wait to meet them. No. And she's like, I got 10 toes and I'm standing on'em. Yeah. Like No toes are missing. I'm like, pop up. Would she pretend she's gonna take a shit so that they'll talk to each other? I'm like, dude, get Hood off my fucking screen. Hood up when she comes out with that contraption on her nose. When she pick me central when she's 3, 2, 1. I was like, you did not just count down to a grown man. You should smack. Sorry. Who is literally asleep? Actively asleep. Mental illness. I will say she did grow on me a bit. Like I do think there's a level of self-awareness. Like she was joking about her crashing out. She did okay, but also her being like, I'm trying to be better this time and be different. Don't be different like be yourself, but just make sure yourself isn't a piece of shit. Like you're being, sorry. Yeah. I just did not, I felt bad for the way it ended for her. That rarely happens. So that's only happened one other time that I can remember on Love Island UK and they broke up on that final date and they left the villa. Like they came back and they were like, we're saying goodbye to everyone. I've never seen them like, stick it out for the sake of sticking it out. Yeah, it's weird. Now it's within 24 hours. Like why not be there, but to make them get up and do their, do their speeches with each other, like the whole thing? Or how about they're showing the couples kissing in the pool and it's hooded just like draped. On. Yeah. Just was It was Nick. It was Nick. So here are my favorites from the season Maya and Brian. Iris and Pepe. Nick and Alexandria Elandra's last outfit that gold in black dress. Oh yeah. Stunning. Oh, she came out and I was like, I, I need her body. I want it. Iris is so beautiful to me. Stunning. She, her, and now the silver sparkly is like right up my alley. So I love I her dress. I even your outfits she's just doesn't have an, oh my God. Pokemon one. Stunning. Stunning. I'm obsessed with Pepe. I'm obsessed with Pepe. You know, who's on the fucking toast today? Who? Pepe. Well, my papa pie's going call her daddy. Of course she is, obviously. And I really like Nick. I always liked, oh, Andrea. I, I love how sensitive and sweet Nick, Nick seems. I like him. I really think he's just so cute. Ace and Shelly gave me the ick. It's so funny because I, I remember I, from the minute. Shelly, I was like, team Shelly for a while was never really team ace. They're giving like mean girl energy in the villa. They are. Watching them rate themselves high and then get knocked down by America's votes was, was pretty satisfying. No stunning. And for them to get let go right before the finale was kind of a chef's kiss. Mm-hmm. I never really loved Taylor and Clark felt forced. I will say him having the guys do like the cheering was cute. So cute. It was so insane. It was the only time I liked Ace was when he was pretending to be the waiter and he was like running and taking it way too seriously. Yeah. Hated Zach. Hated Zach. Why don't I remember him? Zach Elon. Oh, the, the, what's it called guys? The guys going after Amaya Papaya before she chooses Brian. They're not even in my brain. Oh yeah. I did hate him. Yep. Yep. Sorry. Hated him. Like they're not even in my brain. That's kind. Well, people were saying like he's a quote unquote model and so he smiles and then when he knows the camera's still looking, he like makes a duck face. And once you couldn't stop seeing, you know what I mean? They pointed it out and you just can't stop seeing it. Hated. Hated there for all the wrong reasons. Not a fan. No. Overall I did not love this season. It's not one of my favorites. I don't think they'll get a TV show like the last season did. No, that's too iconic. I love authentic people. People you can root for. You gotta have some girlhood in the villa. It's so important. They also just went for like people, not all of them. I don't obviously, but it's giving like they were there to be influencers. They want to be, they want to have clout after that is why they Yeah. But it, there was almost giving cliques like the villa is, that's not what it's meant for. Yeah. It like there's gotta be some comradery, there's gotta be some boys who get along really well. I don't know, it just felt all icky. Yeah. I didn't like it. Ace's whole stand on business. He's I'm five 10, bro, stop bringing up your height. It's weird. It's embarrassing. You're so sure you little boy. But I loved the family episode. I always cry at that episode, the baby episode. They usually do. They used to do in the UK and they stopped. So I was, I thought it was cool to see it back in, in the us Didn't care this time. Yeah. They usually do more. To be honest. The heart rate episode is always really fun. I love the heart rate episode. I didn't like the way they did it though. Yeah, I didn't either. I it's not by couple. It's girls and boys. Yeah. Knock it off. I loved the Megan Thee stallion episode where they were all twerking. Yeah. Yeah. So funny. That was probably Taylor's peak for me the entire season is when he twerked in front of Megan Thee stallion. Yeah. It nickel. Andrea was a really fun twist justice for Hannah. Oh, it was? Okay. It was. I gave it a six. I did hate how quickly Nick was just like, oh wait, now that Sierra's gone. That was weird. Okay, so Sierra leaves,'cause it turns out she like made a bunch of racist comments, which is fine. Not the racist part that she left. That's fine. What was so crazy to me is how quickly everyone moved on. When people leave the fire pit, you would think that they are be being led to such execution, straight up execution. Sierra leaves, who seems to be a pretty big part of the house and in the most serious couple at the time. Everyone is just like, nothing ever happened. No, they never spoke of it again. Which maybe they weren't allowed to, so I don't know. But yeah, maybe they were told not to. I, I liked obviously up until that, but I liked her like a lot. I liked Sierra. I liked Sierra. But you can't, you can't be a dick. You can't be a dick. Facts, you can't, you can't make slurs and then go on national television as it turns out. Amen. Amen. And that's that on that. But yeah, it was just meth for me. I'm really happy for Amaya. She deserves her happy ending. I want someone who sees how much she cries and is fuck yeah girl. Let it out. And doesn't make her feel weird about it. Not a fan of Ace at all. Big ick. B, huge ick. Big ick. And that's on business. When all my 10 Toes Me Stand on. Stand on biz, shut up a shut the hell up. Shut the he loop. So now I'm obviously gonna watch Levi Viola uk'cause I need to cleanse my palate, of course, from this trash. Of course. Anyway, any other thoughts you want to add to the Love Island spiel or did you know I would take, take the wheel on that one? No, I just knew I would agree with everything you said or, and if I had something else to say that would be, I usually let you go. And then I like if I, we blend our conversation by my thoughts from yours. Fair enough. That's usually how it goes. Great. Which is fine. This is a Colleen episode, so this is a little terrifying.'cause I have no idea what the fuck this is about. Don't be terrified. I do need a seventh ending stretch though. Okay. One like we have for over an hour. One, two, a, three, four, or five. I do need to pee. anywho, Colleen episode. Here we go. Yeah, it's not a Debbie. It's a good story. It's like, um, Debbie Downer. That Debbie is what you're referring to. I mean, yeah. It's not like a Debbie Downer Ms. Story. It's like so unhinged and makes no sense. And I'm like, this is crazy. So that's what we're here for. Is this the poop cruise? God, no. I would never use that word. So course I know you wouldn't, but I was just wondering if you saw that on Netflix. I did, I did watch it. And what'd you think I, is it your personal nightmare? No, not really. Really? Yeah. No. Like I don't, I'll be anywhere. I don't care. I'll literally, I'll shit in your mouth. I don't care. So like Colline, I just find a perch in the corner, get some, I get so skinny I wouldn't be able to surrounded by everybody. I'm fine. I'm fine. A little corner. I am totally calling your fucking bluff on this. The only thing I would not happy, happy. You're disgusting is no ac That's a problem for me. That's where you draw the line on a documentary called the Poop Cruise. Yeah.'cause it's only people are like shitting on. It's where they straight up get Lord of the Flies. Yeah. As long as I have my corner in my bed, I'm good. I don't care. You are so full of shit. Swear, swear on Spencer. That's how I would react. No, it's not. I'm not like, I wouldn't be dramatic freaking out or any, no, I, I, you don't know me in these types of situations. I'm actually very comical and collected. I don't give a fuck. I'm not, I'm not, I'm dramatic with things that don't make any fucking sense. There's too many sounds going on. I'm having a meltdown. Right. So on a cruise ship where there are too many people and you can't get off, but I understand there's nothing I can do about it. I, I'm sorry. If you reacted that way at a bar at the Jersey Shore, you would not react well to everyone around you shitting and stealing people's beds and being lost at sea. Four days. I swear I, okay, we're gonna have to agree to disagree'cause you have lost the fucking plot. No. Swear, swear on Spencer. I'll, I'll take a poll. We're gonna talk about the real story of the real life. Catch me if you can. Oh, amazing. Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio. Great movie. So I haven't seen the movie. I literally, oh Jesus Christ Colleen. So I didn't have the time speci, like genuinely so what happened was I was gonna do prison escapes. Ah. And I found one that I was like, oh. And I went to go look it up. And it turns out that's not a real, it was not a real prison escape. And that the guy that it's about, it's like, it's a whole nother side story. Okay. So that's how I got into this. So this is the story of the guy that the movie's based off of Great G Love. So still haven't seen the movie. I decided this two days ago. Great movie. This is the story. Frank, oh my God. I've tried, I've rewritten how to pronounce his last name three times and I still just almost said it wrong. No, it's okay. It's literally written out in front of me the story of Frank Abignail. Abignail Abignail. He is going to have to be frank for the rest of the story because I simply can't be written. That's totally fine. You know when you read a book and you decide how something is pronounced the certain way. Yeah. And it's absolutely not correct. Yeah. You did this with aar. Yes. Yes. Every single name is wrong, so that's what I've been doing this whole time with him. So he's gonna be Frank, big Frank from now. Frank a, do you know what? I thought Doy was Doby for a decade because I had a friend in, her name is Michelle, and we went to elementary school together and she had a dog, and the dog's name was. Doby Dobby. Oh, okay. No, Doby. Yeah, Doby. Yeah. And when Harry Potter came out, that's the only way I would say it. I'm like, why is everyone calling it Dobby? That's so fucking weird. You're wrong. You guys are so dumb. And then the movie came out and I was like, well, fuck me. A whf a buff, and you call me dumb, but I know what it's hard to like rewire your brain Yes. To what you didn't know previously. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, you catch me looking up the that, how to say it out loud, like on Google. And I like four times. And I was like, I just, I just don't think that's correct. I think you're wrong. Okay. Well, he's Frank. So this is Frank. So Wikipedia calls our friend Frank in American Security consultant and his author. But in reality, he's just a big fat felon and a bonafide conman. Okay. A hundred percent. Like he needs to be studied by science. He's so fucking smart. Correct. So the, the amount of charm. Balls and intelligence needed is actually what would make him good in real life if he applied himself to something that wasn't illegal. You know what I mean? So he does, he'd be so successful. So he does. I know, but No, but the real story, we're not, it's not, it's loosely based off. Okay. Does that make sense? Yes. There's a lot of things that are accurate, but it's not we'll get into it, don't worry. But so Frank, our guy Frank, he was born in the Bronx in New York on April 27th, 1948, and he spent his whole early life in like suburbia New York. Cool. His parents separated when he was 12, and then they divorced finally when they were 15. Tough separation. Not sure if that affected his, like mental wellness. I don't know. Sure. People seem to blame that shitty behavior on things like that. So I dunno if that's the case. Got it. You get what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. After they divorce, he moves in with his father and his stepmother and they moved to Mount Vernon, New York, which is, isn't that George Washington? He did live on Mount Vernon, but that is not in New York. Mount Vernon's in Virginia. Okay, cool. Whatever Mount Vernon is where he moved his ass to. That's all he needs to know. Okay. It's important to note that he spent a lot of time with his dad and through his dad, he gets a lot of knowledge and skills. You know, his dad's bringing him around to a lot of places he probably shouldn't have been. There's a lot of powerful high class businessmen. He saw a lot of shit, learned a lot of shit. Sure. He picked up on how to, you know, charm people like you said, and act apart. Mm-hmm. After a few months of this, literally a few months, he decides I'm ready for the life of petty crime. Cool. And he, he hits the ground running, set that bar high. Frank. He's 15 right now. So Frankie claims his first victim. It is in fact his father. His father gives him a gas credit card and a truck and he becomes, whatever he does with it, he creates a bill liable. About to$3,400. And that's in the early sixties, so that's a lot of fucking money. Oh my God, that's so much money. Correct. Spoil alert. He does write an autobiography down the line where the movie comes from. Okay, got it. So I do reference that a couple times before he actually writes the book if we're going. Is that where your sources came from? My sources do not come from the book. I did not read the book. It came from Wikipedia and also a a video from, oh my god, what the, not Buzzfeed? Well, who's the one is Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed files videos on YouTube. Great, thank you. In his autobiography that he does write later down the line, he does say that because of this first original crime, he was sent to a reform school in Westchester County and it's. After research. It's called Lincoln Dale Agricultural School. But in numerous interviews, he claims that he actually attended an elite private Catholic school in Westchester called Iona Preparatory School. Preparatory School. So this is just the first of probably so many lies, hundreds of fucking lies. So many off the bat. He's even lying about where he went to school. He's not mentioned by name, doesn't have, there's no photographs of him in the Iona Preparatory School yearbooks. He no alumni recall ever going to school with him. He absolutely did not go to the school besides the point, spent his whole life saying otherwise. This is just the first of many lies to be told by our friend, Frank. So, buckle the fuck up in December of 1964. So at this point he is 48, 14, so he's 17, 16. At 16 he enlisted in the Navy. So we're thinking, wow, okay. Nice man's serving our lovely country like Slay. He was discharged after three months, and he was released on February 18th, 1965. Details as to why he was released, I could not find anywhere. I looked for hours, not hours. That's dramatic. But I looked for a while. Really no idea. So I, it had to been like a, it's not medical. It must have been, he must have done some shit. I don't fucking know. Less than two weeks after his release, he is immediately arrested for petty larceny back home in Mount Vernon. Oh, cool. Get right back where we started from. Mm. The following month, it's March, he wakes up one day and he decides to impersonate a New York police officer. Mm-hmm. And he just fully enters the apartment of a resident claiming that he is investigating her teenage daughter. Oh. The mom's this is kind of weird. Not really. Something's off. You know, the radar's going. And he, she calls the police and they find out that. Frankie boy is in fact not a police officer and he's holding a toy gun in a paper, police badge. Paper. Paper. Nice. Like you could do better than that. Frank Arts and crafts. Come on, Frankie, we can do better. It is very DIY. Yeah, I mean, I get it, but do better. Yeah. So he's arrested. He gets booked on a vagrancy charge. No idea what that means, to be honest with you. I'm assuming. Just false impersonation. Next day he, instead of jail, he was ordered to be committed to Grasslands Psychiatric Institute for observation, where he should have fucking stayed. Oh boy. They said something ain't right. Grew up to this shit. Something. He's also under 18, so that's what they do, I feel like with most people who are committing absurd crimes, so whatever. Right. Under the age of 18 when their frontal lobe hasn't formed. Yeah. Don't worry, he's released. Oh, it all's well, and it's now June of 1965. And the FBI arrests him for all the way in Eureka, California. Oh, so New York to California for a car theft because he stole a Ford Mustang from one of his father's neighbors in Mount Vernon, New York. Oh boy. And he financed the trip in the Mustang from New York to California with blank checks stolen from a family business back in the Bronx. Oh, Frank, one thing about Frank loved a forged check. Yes. That was his bread and fucking butter. Mind you, I'm telling you this. POV never seen the movie, so I don't know if he does that in it. Yes. I have no idea. Yes, he does. But just get a job. My guy. Yeah. Work at the fucking grocery store. You can cash your, no, not for Frank. You can cash your own checks with your own name. How about that? Yeah. Really? He forges give you a nice little high. Yeah, try that. It's not big enough for Frank. Yeah. Side note, same timeframe. He does get charged with impersonating a US customs official. Great. Just like start, take a beat. Take a minute. Just, just breathe. Take some breaths. Frank, you are a hobby. Frankie. Yeah. For. He gets released into the custody of his father for the stolen car charges at this point, because he's only 17, so they have to, you know, give you to a parent, but then our man decide, decides, take it up a notch. He impersonates a whole ass pilot at the age of 17. Mm-hmm. He got a uniform at a Manhattan uniform company. Just, just feels also dangerous. Oh yeah. Correct. The things that come out of this man's mouth, like I'm telling you, studied by fucking science. Yeah. He is impersonating pilot. He goes and gets a uniform from a, a uniform company in Manhattan. He purchased the uniform with the money he has obtained from the forging of the previous tricks. Naturally. Cool. And it's July 7th, 1965 and he informs local media. I'm a graduate of a American Airlines pilot school in Fort Worth, Texas. Uh. Uh, He, I don't know what he plans to do with this. I don't know if he plans on actually flying a fucking plane. I don't know. We don't know. But his plan was shot because he was arrested for theft of more checks in Tuckahoe, New York, just days later. So he never made it to flight. Oh, poor Frank. He's sentenced to three years his biggest stay. Yeah. So far. And it's at Great Meadow Prison in Comstock, New York for the stolen checks. But then again, he is a charmer. He is a smooth criminal and he only serves two years of his sentence. Alright. So what is he saying to these people? So we're just, we're getting who is allowing this man back on the street? It's the state talking about a flight risk. No, literally the state of fucking New York. So I think it's a mix of things. I think technically these are all seen as petty crimes. It's also half of them were for before he turned 18. So they're kind of just like true, the true. And now this is the one that they're like, okay, now you need to do jail time. And this was before obviously computers and we weren't really talking to people outside of our state. Correct. So like New York doesn't have any legs to stand on here, but if he did some stuff in California, like you get Oh yeah, he's bo he bops. Yeah, he bops. So this is gonna seem pretty what's not the word redundant, but pretty like repetitive. Yes. Because he's just kinda doing the same thing, doing DI need different, I need to keep the timeline of all the things you did. And then all of his claims afterwards it's fucking cool. So bear with me. He does the two years, they do release him to his mother instead of his father thinking, oh, maybe like mommy will crack the whip. Oh. How's that go? Not great. So he's on parole with mommy watching him, but he did break the terms of his parole with another stolen car situation in the stunning city of Boston, Massachusetts. Oh, hey, hey girl. Hey, welcome Frank. Let's go get a cannoli. Didn't last long. Great. They snatch him up. They nab him, and they send him back to Great Meadow for one year. Okay, now it's December 24th. Merry Christmas to all put into all a good night. It's 1968. What a great year it was. He's now 20 naturally. He's now 20 years old, and he has disguised himself as a Trans World Airlines pilot and moved his ass to Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Okay. He talks his way into the house of a local music teacher because he is a smooth operator and the daughter is a Delta. The daughter of the musician is a Delta Airline stewardess that he had previously met in New York. So he reached out to her. Okay. Maneuvered his way. Finessed through the dad. Yeah. And shouted his way in. Yeah. Now they're hosting. Great. Now they're hosting who they think is a pilot, a roommate. Cool. And in Baton Rouge, while he's, he's vibing, he also befriended a local minister. Tells the minister, I have a master's degree in social work from of college, I'm looking to, you know, work with vulnerable youth. Oh, good Lord. You are the vulnerable youth with disability. He is the, he is the og vulnerable youth. That's what I mean. The call is coming from inside the house. He was truly so smooth and so confident that everyone and everything he said was believed. Everyone believed him. Yeah. No one even. Yeah. So, okay, so he says the youth, the disabled kids as well. Well, yes. He, he's I'm here to assist. Good. That's good. I'm brother in Christ, essentially. Frank. Frank. No. The reverend is oh my God, yes. You distinguished, you distinguished young gentleman. I will help you help the people. So he introduces him to a bunch of faculty at the Louisiana State university who they immediately were like, are you being fucking for real? Come on, this guy's a phony bologna. Open your goddamn damn eyeballs. Yep. So these people at Louisiana State, who would've thought down Louisiana, they would've figured him the fuck out. Yeah. So they're like, Hey Reverend, I think your, your radar's off here. This guy is a freak and he's a lion hustler. This. Guy is a child and he's a menace to society. He's 20. He's, he can't legally drink yet. He can't Oh, no. They could drink back then at that age, but Oh shit. Yeah, you're right. But LOL so the reverend's wait, you guys are right. And he calls the airline that he claimed that Franklin claims claims work. Yeah. Which, and they're like, oh no, he's a fraud. We have no record of this man. And so the reverend notifies the police department, and Frankie is arrested on February 14th, 1969 on vagrancy charges yet again. He loves some vagrancy. Cool. It's his favorite. Yeah. That's just like they are So, some Patsy go, they just coincide. They slay together. We see each other. They arrest him, and when they do arrest him, the detectives figure out that he had stolen bank checks from the musician host with the family that he was living with. Aw. And also from a local business in Baton Rouge where he, so now he is Vagrant for sure, and is being charged with theft and forgery on top of that. Naturally. Damn. He can't make bail. Oh, where's the money now? So mommy and daddy don't give a fuck. Oh, he, they're done with his, his bullshit. He's above 18. Yeah. This is his. Yep. He's, he's up to par here. They're like no more. So he's convicted on June 2nd, 1969 and sentenced to 12 years of supervised probation at the age of 21. Whoa. Make this man just go to jail. What we doing with probation here? You think he's gonna buy Probation is not enough. That's not shit. That ain't shit. So you think, okay, he might take this seriously. Yeah, we finally reached, he's in for it, you know? Yeah. He flees to Europe. Honestly. Same when I too am vagrant. When I'm pressed into a corner, I flee to Europe and we on the dime. So you do that and you frolic and you find peace. This man does the opposite. This man is do you know what? I should be a vagrant. Do you know what I should commit? You said it vagrancy, not me. Two weeks later he lands in france. So he steals a car And then he bops over to Sweden and defrauds two whole ass families with his crazy stories and he steals their shit. Great mans can't lay allow. He cannot. So he is caught, obviously of both sentenced to four months for theft in France, and then he's swooped up to Sweden. Convicted of gross fraud by forgery. Serves two months there and he is banned from Sweden for eight years. Imagine being so harmful that you are banned from a fucking country, foreign country. Can I say something? He's not that good at it. He's not. He's good at getting there. Yeah. But the execution is leaving something to be desired. I would agree. Because he is not, he's sneaky, but he's not really, but also, these are the things he's getting caught with. We're not aware. God only knows how much he's actually doing. So that's what I'm saying. We, he is getting, we don't know his percentage. Yes. We dunno. He's also liar. I think it's, it's happening so often that to me it feels like 90%. But you're right. That could only be 50. Well, I'm, like I said, I'm just listing you all the things he's getting caught for because this is the reasoning. So these are all the things that are legitimately on file. Correct. Yeah. Godly knows. So we are going to switch it to all of these things that he has claimed. Got it. Cool. Got it. Got it. So this is all legit. Yeah. Okay. I'm with you. So these are all of his charges. Okay, cool. So he gets deported. Imagine getting deported before your again, you're banned from Sweden for eight years. Goodbye. Deported back to your country at 22, he's back at it. Back in America, baby, back getting to it. He gets back, touches ground and he starts a new bit. Okay? Gets in a pilot's uniform and he travels across college campuses, passing bad checks. And he claims that he's there to recruit stewardesses for Pan Am. Oh yes, this isn't the movie. So now he's probably like Wang in his Wang trying to dittle the stewardesses always correct these men. He hits the University of Arizona and he gets there and he says, oh, I'm a pilot and a doctor. Cool, cool. He cashes a personal check made to look like a Pan Am paycheck on my birthday in 1970 in North Carolina, and it pings the FBI. Okay.'cause the F FBI's on him and now they're like, come on, you're back in this country. We are a little least a little aware. The FBI's, the F FBI's not fucking around. Yeah. The F fbi. A little freaky Dink County jail doesn't give a fuck. But fbi, I, yeah, they're the big dicks. We be, we be tracking you. Yeah. Frank. Yeah. And they're swinging their big dicks across the country watching your ass. Yeah. Cool. Correct. He gets arrested in Cobb County, Georgia after he cashes 10 fake Pan-Am payroll checks in different towns. Oh, Jesus Christ. So they, they're like, we got you. Slow down, Frank. Yeah. He's not, he's being sloppy. Yeah. They're like, we got you. Motherfucker. He gets arrested in Cobb County and this is what he says happened when he got arrested at Cobb County. Okay, I'm ready. And this is where my whole prison escape came in. Okay. This is what I read and thought it was real. And then everyone's like, no, no, no. He made this whole thing up. So he claims that he escaped. He tells people for the down, down the line. Yes. Flashboard. Yes. He tells people he escapes from a high security Atlanta federal prison, and he escaped while he was being transferred into the prison by a US marshal. And the marshal forgot to give the prison like his, his paperwork. So there's like nothing on him. He's kind of just like a random person. And this struck the administration as unusual like, who is this man? And they lead the guards to believe that he was a prison inspector sent by the FBI. Okay. And he allegedly uses this information to his advantage and he uses his cell phone that he can use because they think he's an FBI person to ask his friend this guy Gene, to forge a whole ass business card to back up the whole story. Gene uses the business card given to her. By allegedly FBI, agent, agent Josh, she and he, it doesn't matter, he altered it to include all of, he basically forged a fake business card to make it seem like he actually was an FBI person. Okay, cool. Once he got the card, he presented the card to the guards and told them that, haha, I am an inspector sent by the FBI and now I get to exit the prison and talk. I have to go talk to my fellow FBI agent, like there's some shit going on. And the guards allegedly laughed and they boasted about how they all actually knew and were too difficult to fool. We knew you were, you were too good and you were a member of the FBI, whatever. Okay. What actually happened was he escaped from Cobb County Jail in Georgia, which was actually just quite literally a low, like a local low security facility. They didn't even lock their fucking doors and he simply walked outta the front door while the deputies weren't looking. So he made up this whole elaborate FBI story, which is not the first time that he does makes up shit about the FBI. It is actually crazy the amount of shit he makes up about the FBI. He so wants more than what is like even just lying about where you went to school, where you're from. It, it sounds like who cares outside of his parents getting divorced, which who cares? Yeah. Doesn't sound like he had a horrible upright, you know what I mean? It wasn't like, no, we got divorced, woe was me. But the grandiose of every story. Correct. And every aspect of life is kind of wild. That's correct. The Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed actually that he was never even housed in the Atlanta Federal, federal Penitentiary. Oh man, I can't talk the Atlanta Federal prison. Basically. He was never there at all. And this the warden at the time that he claimed he was there. This guy, Dwight, he said he was never admitted. So I don't really see how he could have escaped. I mean, and if it's not on record, they would have record of him being there. That's a wild thing to lie about. No, that's something so easily checked that he got a, a business card made in the, like he fooled the Yeah, the FBI was like, oh, you got us. Yeah. Good one, Frank. Yeah. And that also the guards were like, oh, we knew like we, he was just smooth. It's like loser behavior. No, it's such an egg. It's the ultimate ick. But you know, he did, he did end up getting brought back, but he was sentenced to 10 years. But can we guess how quickly he gets out? 10 years? Yeah. Is he out in two? He's out in two. Are you? I just guessed. Is he out in fucking two? Yep, he's out in two. He does one fifth. Yeah. Yeah.'cause he's young. He's a charmer. He's doing great in prison. He knows what to do. Wow. They see nothing wrong with him. That's because he's such a pathological liar. Not so, so they release him and he's out and about in Houston, Texas. This irrelevant. Maybe he could've helped out, but his dad did die while he was in prison. Oh, that's not, his dad was only like 55 or something. So oh, that's sad. Yeah, so whatever. Maybe he could've, I think he should've helped out a long time ago, but maybe when he got deported back into the country, but not the point. Oof. After his release in Texas Frank does state that he performs numerous jobs. So he's a cook, he's a grocer, he's a movie projectionist. I do believe these things because there's such low level jobs that you actually don't need a background check for that I'm sure he actually like, needed to make money or maybe like, why would he lie about that if he's lying about being, you know, involved with the FBI? Why is he lying and saying he was a cook at one point? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he definitely did those things. Look at him being honest for once you're thinking probably oh, maybe he's ready to become a functioning member of society. No, definitely not. He is doing low level jobs. This is, this is addictive. This isn't just like, yeah, he's scratching an itch. Yeah, for sure. He is back on his pilot Bullshit. What's with the, we're always coming back to the pilot. I don't know, which is very much in the movie, so I'm not surprised by it. But I'm surprised he picked one profession so much. Especially because they had flagged him pretty early on. Yeah, switch it up. So why does he keep coming back to it? Switch up. It's so interesting. I don't know. He poses a pilot in 1974 so he could get a job at this camp. It was a, a summer children's camp in Texas. Get this man away from children. Like why, why? What's the fixation with wanting to working with like children and vulnerable youth? It's weird. Yeah. I don't know. I dunno. That's a weird one. Don't worry. He gets arrested at the camp for stealing cameras from his coworker, so it's cool. So it doesn't last long. Cool. Frank. Real cool. He only gets a find though, don't worry. Great. He gets a position at an orphanage. In Houston again, let by pretending to be a pilot again. Let's leave the youth alone. My kids. You do. So especially the troubled youth. Crazy enough. This job had him finding foster homes for children living at the orphanage, like that was his day-to-day role. Did you think like a part of him wanted to do good in the world? I don't, I don't know. He just seems like such a so sociopath. I can't even pinpoint his like wants and needs. I don't know. Yeah, that's totally fair. I don't know if this is I wanna balance all the scales or I actually wanna do good in the W world. I don't know what this is about. I don't know. Maybe it's like something he's trying to cure something that happened to him as a child that he is try, I don't know. I have no fucking idea. Yeah, who knows? Or maybe he's just doing it to do it. I have no idea. But this whole like. So job was discovered by his parole officer. Which, where the fuck has your parole officer been this whole time? For real? I know your caseload is disgustingly long. What? We have missed a spot. Get this man away from the case. Get this man away from the youth. But he swiftly removes him and he actually moves him into his own garage so he can keep up. Oh my God. Because he is my God, I got, I can't keep you in prison, but I am gonna keep you in the garage.'cause I gotta keep you somewhere. I have to keep an eye on you. You're just doing some weird shit. I think that he probably left him alone for a while thinking he was like a okay. And then found out what he was up to. I was like, fuck, I gotta backtrack and I get in my house. No. Oh no. This next position was actually at I dunno how to pronounce it, but it's the healthcare company, Atena. It's A-E-T-N-A. You know what I'm talking about? Aetna? Yeah. Yeah. It's purple. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. He was fired and sued for check fraud from there too as well. Cool. Because nothing but consistency from our Frankie King. I mean, he absolutely is an addict. No, yeah. This is compulsive behavior for sure. So I will say that's the end, not the end of, but this is the last, we'll talk about those bits. We've moved on to bigger and better things. Okay. Okay, great. Now, according to Frank, in his next bit I will call it he claims and there's no proof of this, but obviously it does transpire to something. So he, it has to be something loosely off of this. He approached a bank with an offer. It's 1975, and he explains to the bank that he, everything he had done over the years, complete honesty. And he offers to speak to the bank's staff and show them various tricks and trades that Frauders use to defraud banks. Okay. Because it takes 1 0 0 1. Sure. His offer included the condition that, you know, if they don't find any of the information that he gives to be helpful and they don't improve, that they owe him nothing. But otherwise they would owe him only 50 bucks. And under the agreement that they would provide his name and his services to other banks. So he's a salesman, essentially Great. Selling his services. Sure. And that's just an offer they simply can't refuse. Mm-hmm. So they take him up on his offer, and with that, the scammer becomes the master and the teacher. Oh, good God. And he began a new career as a security consultant and motivational speaker. They are letting this man cook in the worst way. Like usually I say that and let them be like, let them thrive. Like literally let than Mel Robbins. This cannot be good. No. Also, don't worry, during this time, sidebar, he did falsify his resume and he put on it,'cause this is new information that he worked for the LA Police Department and Scotland Yard. How, literally how it's on, how would you do that? Just important to know. Nothing comes from that. Glad we're checking references. So not only are we kicking up professional life, personal sidebar.'cause it also fits the same timeline'cause it's the same year. He does marry his wife Kellyann on November 6th, 1976. And he told people that he met her while allegedly working undercover for the FBI when she was a cashier at a grocery store. Obviously that's a lie. The man never worked for the fucking FBI. She was probably actually just a cashier at a grocery store. And he's somehow embarrassed by that. Yes. In whatever way, which is, but he does have a wife, oddly enough. Okay, so back to him being master scammer. Okay, we're, we're reverting back. That was just a little sidebar. He does have love, oddly enough. So this good for him. This situation transfers into him giving whole ass public talks where. You know, he's basically, like I said, a motivational speaker and how to like defraud and all the tricks of the trade, whatever. So during these talks, he's being more honest about his past, right?'cause he is using that as his examples. And he claims the following as just between the age ages of 16 and 21. He was a pediatrician in a Georgia hospital for one year. He was an assistant state attorney general for one year, a sociology professor for two semesters. As we know, a Pan-American Airlines pilot for two years, which is crazy. And I know we talked about him like recruiting stewardesses, but I also forgot to mention that he also claimed that he did that and traveled with them for three months throughout Europe while training them. Sure. This was actually, I lied. This was the second part of the me saying that I looked up prison escapes. This was the one that I read that I was like, this is absolutely insane, because it's absolutely not true. Okay, cool. So one of the most absurd claims he made was that he was arrested by the FBII think in Montreal. I don't think he ever actually was. And he claims that he escapes their custody from the airplane bathroom via the toilet bowl. I mean, while the plane was landing. Yes. And heading towards the gate of JFK. Correct. Cool. Is this in the movie? Yes. Okay, cool. That's what I figured. And he claims that all of his time as a pilot really made him familiar with how the plane bathroom works. Uhhuh, I don't know if that's a thing in pilot school. Is that a thing in pilot school? I have no idea. So in the movie I'll ask you, does it feels pretty straightforward to me. Does he perform this act in the, in the movie? Yes. Okay, cool. So I don't need to explain that, but for the people that have not seen like myself. He does explain how he did it. He's like, I'm very familiar with toilet apparatuses in, in the airplane. They're like, cool, great. He claims that he squeezed himself through the opening, swung down through the hatch and landed on the fucking pavement, ran across the runway and inhaled a cab. Like it was no big deal. Dunno if he did in the movie. Taxi. Taxi. He claims I took off running. I thought they were right behind me when I didn't know that the door was spring loaded. When it slammed shut, the whole assembly fell back into place. Nobody heard anything because of the engines roar. So didn't happen. Sure didn't happen. That's all you need to know. So he's now currently slang away in the banking world. He is giving talks left and right. People think he's such an inspiration. He's so smart. He knows everything about defrauding whatever. Sure. In 1976, he takes his shit into his own hands and he finds, finds he founded his own company, which was called ag aga I serious, his last name. No, seriously, you guys, I cannot say his last name. So we'll call it a And a Associates, APGA and Associates and the whole company advises companies on securing documentation to prevent fraud. Got it. Basis of the company. So he makes a whole ass career off of being a professional scanner, scanner, professional scanner, like whole public speaker, whole motivational speaker. That's, he does, he charges like$30,000. Insane for people to hear his story. I can't quote unquote, I cannot. And as we know, he writes a book in 1980 and it's called Catch Me If You Can. It's an autobiography. Most of it's a lie. Anyway, so I don't even think we should be able to call it an autobiography, but he really just thinks he's that bitch. If you think you could write an autobiography, you do something so important that you can write autobiography about it. Please be fucking for real. I mean, he did. It became a movie where he was played by Leonard DiCaprio. Tom Hanks chases him around the fucking globe and he's like a hottie and they want an Oscar for it. Like he kind of is that bitch. Fuck that guy though. Fuck him. Fuck Frank. We deserve movies about our lives. The fuck are you doing? I mean, do we, do we just start lying? No, that's not the moral of the fucking story calling. Well, it's piss, it's pissing me off. Oh, relax. You know, he's in the movie. He makes a cameo that doesn't sup, it's Frank. Why on earth would he not be in his question real by heart? My why are we entertaining this fan? You know what I mean? He must be charming. He must have sold the pitch. Whatever. Back to him though, back to him, back to Frankie during his speeches and all of his appearances and all of his interviews on TV and the book, he adds to his criminal exploits more than I explained earlier. Like he's happy to like pack on all the shit that he did. Oh, he is like, and by the way, this one, and don't forget that one and that one and that one, including he was wanted all lies wanted in 26 countries. O okay. Only works for the FBI sure escaped. FBI custody multiple times, cashed over 17,000 bad checks. That actually might be true. That's the one I actually believe. Yeah, that's fair. Up to 2.5 billion. That's so much money. Jesus. In the seventies. In the seventies, that's ridiculous. And he logged over 3 million air miles disguised as a pilot. Not really being a pilot. There's fucking no way. Who was getting on your plane? I mean, I don't believe it. Why are you flying? Why are you allowed to fly a plane? How, how did you get, how did you get on the plane? How'd you I just can't, I have so many questions. So obviously it's not real, right? Like it can't be real. Whatever other claims he's made in the public, written down out of his mouth in public eye, yes. He maintained that he was quote unquote, arrested just once, and it was the one in France. However, obviously we've talked about it, the record state, like at the beginning I gave you all the legit records. New York, California, Massachusetts, Louisiana, Georgia, and Texas. Multiple times like you. You're lying. Yep. He says that he has earned millions of dollars from his patents. The US Patent Office says he, he's not even listed as a person, neither is his company as a business or any holders, any patents, nothing are listed with his name or an alias or for his company. Okay? He claims that he passed Louisiana Bar Exam and he closed 33 cases. I mean, how many lives? Frank, do you think you've, he's not even, listen, been he in the Bar Association? I think what's so funny to me is how easily absurd fact check's it's upturned. Like no one was fact checking this man, it's a h. It's like me saying, I fucking, I don't know. I am, I'm a pediatrician. No, I'm literally a brain surgeon at Boston Children's. Like I just clocked in my hours. Get me in there, scrub me in Mass General. Can't get rid of me. Like I watch Grays get me in there. The fuck, I'm gonna start going on dates and be like, Hey, just kidding. By the way, you can be Montana guy. You could just make one up a whole ass personality and accent. No one will question it. That sounds fucking exhausting. Yeah, it does. It definitely does. He was on the Tonight Show at one point. Sure. And when they found out that, you know, the people found out that he was going on the Tonight Show, the Assistant Attorney General from Louisiana gave a reporter that was going on the show, a bunch of questions to ask him just to see how he would answer and he answered every single question incorrectly. Because, incorrectly, yes, because obviously. Why the fuck would he be telling the truth at that point? Yeah. One of the most controversial and the one that I find is most mind boggling other than the fake prison escapes and the plane escape is his whole ass made up relationship with the FBI Because the FBI is so legit. There are. So why is the FBI just make a statement and be like, no, that none of this is true. It's absurd. I dunno. This is everything he does with the FBI. This is insane. Okay. This is the most insane. Okay. When he began claiming that all about all these absurd things that he did back in the seventies, he never claimed to work for the FBI. He claimed he escaped the FBI. He never said he worked for them though. Okay. Okay. He did, however, during that time, leverage the names of a bunch of FBI personnel to back up his claims. So he was saying like, I did this, I did that so and so I was thought I was arrested and this agent did this. Like he made up a bunch of shit and he used a lot of names that were legitimate names. Right. And it turns out that him and his publicists were giving out the names of FBI agents to literally any party that asked for references. Like just, oh, yeah. Okay. In particular, they gave out the name of this guy Robert Frank, quite a bit. Okay. Regularly. They claimed he was the former Atlanta agent who knew all about Frank when he spent time in Atlanta. This guy's like, leave me the fuck alone. That is correct. Really? Yes. So, a journalist contacts this guy is you know, this guy's shit, if I got one more phone call, it's gonna be my 13th reason. So a journalist is I gotta get, I ain't gotta know. Yeah. I gotta I, I'm in on the team, I've gotta talk to ffr. Ffr just spit on my fucking IPN on my IPN. But he at the time just retired from the FBI in the Houston division and never fucking worked in Atlanta, first of all. So he's claiming as like his Atlanta contact, he only worked in Houston. Frank tells the, the guy that's interviewing him. That damn aga uses my name all over the place. I've never even met the man quote, end quote, leave me the get off my lawn. Leave me the fuck alone. After the book comes out, he claims, Frank claims that he began to inform his audiences that he was on the FBI 10 most wanted fugitives list. N no, you're literally not. No, you're not. He said this when the book came out in the late seventies, early eighties, he claimed this all the way to the mid nineties where you could then Google it. Correct. Ask Jeeps. Correct. He said I was the only teenager in the history of the FBI to put, to be put on the 10. Oh my God. Get over yourself. Frank. You're so annoying. No, it literally gets worse. He claims after the book slash movie came out, he claims that he was granted unique parole from the federal prison in Virginia so that he could work for the bureau. What is his obsession with working with the FBI? I don't know. He said anti quote, when the FBI took me out of prison, it was to do undercover work. Sure. He claims that the work was given hi to him directly from Clarence Kelly, who was the director of the fucking whole ass FBI from 1973 to 19 78, 5 years. He says that because of his photographic memory, oh my God. The head of the FBI asked him to memorize components of military hardware in infiltrate bases. Frank, Frank, I'm gonna send you a cease and desist. He said that he sent him on missions, including to a scientist lab in New Mexico. Get the fuck out of here. Walter White. Get out of here. He's so, he's so fucking unwell. Forted he is. This is Insanity. A guy, a retired FBI agent, actually came out to the same journalist and was like, if anyone tells you he worked in white collar crime and fraud, specifically within the FBI, he says, if anyone tells you that they got an assignment directly from the FBI director, right head of the FBI, you know, for a fact it's bullshit. It's simply does not happen that way. No, there's 18 people below him. This is so much, he starts using stop the first person, ppl plural pronoun. When he talks about the FBI, he says we nice. You know, he tells people he was directly working for the FBI and began celebrating each anniversary of his like unique parole, like when he got pulled out and his opportunity to work for the FBI, blah, blah, blah. For example, in 2006. He says, this year I'm celebrating 31 years at the FBI get in 2014, he says, this year I'm selling, celebrating 38 years at the FBI. I'm dying where I work today. You know what? I love a method actor. This is 30 years of claiming to work for the FBI and the FBI is just okay, 38, speak up guys. Say it with your chest. Who is letting this this man speak? No toes missing. That is so fucking funny to me. And it also reminds me of Shutter Island, the other Leonard DiCaprio movie because it kind is like, yeah, Frank, you do work at the FBI, wink wink. And we're gonna send you to go get a lobotomy now. No. Put this man white walls padded, padded white walls. This man needs. No, it We're still going on the FBI charade. I'm not, I'm literally not kidding. In 2018. Get the fuck outta here Colleen. He's on PBS at this point. He's made it to P-B-S-P-B-S, our sweet wholesome PBS. Yeah. He is getting interviewed on PBS and he says the FBI always ask me when I'm gonna retire'cause they don't want me to. They are begging me to stay. No one wants to give me a pension. They're No, no, no, no. He says his work for the FBI's pro bono. Okay. Stop. Get out. I need you to get out. Swear to God, pro fucking Bono. Who does this man think? He says that we'll believe him. He does it pro bono because he has made so much money from his company with contracts from the US government because they work with the government. Okay. Quick question though. Where does Frank get his money? So he claims he does 10.5 million. No, listen, listen, I'm gonna answer your question at the end of the statement. He claims. He does 10.5 million of business per year with all of it being the federal government. Okay. However, in 1991 he files for complete bankruptcy uhhuh. In his court filings, he claimed that he had 1.6 million in debt and only$300,000 in assets. So he has no money. He does not make money. Right. Cool. So he is just riding this high of Got it. The clout from the FBI love that journey for him. At no point has the FBI made a statement corroborating any of his claims, nor have they confirmed any of his claims that he was sent to a military base to expert on missiles or a secret lab in New Mexico. I mean, for fucking real to this day, in 2025, he has kept that. The whole FBI straight up. He's still saying that is a thing. Yep. He still is to the point. We're in 2020 actually. He, one of his victims that he had frauded in in Louisiana came forward during an interview or something. It was like some standard, like he, someone paid him to come and like tell his story and give tips and she like stood up and was like, and what about like, do you know it was one of those situations? Yeah. And A hoot or And a hollerer. Yeah. She basically was like, why did you lie? Why didn't you acknowledge any of the whatever? And he goes, that's because I work for the FBI and Cool. Yeah. He teaches ethics at the FBI Academy. Which is ironic because years ago someone at the bureau said, who better than you to do this? I try to teach young agents the importance of doing the right thing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. In 2015. Ok. He was named the A A RP Fraud Watch Ambassador where he helps to provide online programs and community forums to educate consumers on ways to protect themselves from identity theft. I mean, no one should be paying him to give them that information, but I do think there is value in having someone who does it teach you how to avoid it. Agreed. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just, anyway, there is something to that, but no one should be giving them him any, you don't have an original leg to stand on. You are a liar from the get go. No, no, no. He now hosts an A RP podcast called The Perfect Scam about scammers and how they operate. And his fees for speaking about his life story are anywhere between 20,000 and$30,000 right now. Right now, and to the outside world. He's considered a highly respected consultant that specializes in fraud prevention and securing documents, and he works with many major companies still. Financial institutions gov, even government agencies, like actually he's not lying about it. Leveraging unique expertise to help them. That's, this is what his company, quote unquote not motto, is leveraging his unique expertise to help them combat fraud and financial crimes. And he's an advisor on several companies, like one-on-one who is letting this man advise them on anything. I don't know, but Frankie and his wife Kelly, they live on Daniel Island in South Carolina, and they have three children and they live life. And that is the real true story of Frank Abigail and the scammer extraordinaire and this real reason behind Catch Me if you can. Holy Shit. But you know, him and the FBI go way back. Yeah, the movie obviously makes it much sexier than that. Yeah, no. Yeah. Wow. I didn't know any, I mean, I knew a bunch of that, and he's happy as a clam. He is happy as a fucking clam. I mean, he's never really faced serious repercussions. Why? Of course, he's happy as a clam. I wonder how Sweden feels about him. I, I mean, the eight years has passed. He can go back peacefully. I know. I wonder if they, they're over it. I, I mean, probably I wish someone would just stand around him and fact check him because I bet not a single thing that comes. I bet he's one of those that like believes his lies. Yeah. He hasn't real, like he's definitely contradicted himself a couple times, but no one's being like, you contradicted your, that's what I mean. I want someone to stand next to him and be like, Nope. Actually, no, because I think that the, whatever advice and whatever services he's offering are legit enough that they don't even like, it's just not a thing that's talked about. I mean that's, I I do stand by what I said of there is something to be said about the hacker teaching you how not to get hacked, but Wow. And that's that. That's fucking crazy. But I will follow up with prison Escape soon. Okay. Because that's where I started and I tailspin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. That's all I got for you. Alright. What do you got coming up? I'm going, your birthday's coming up. Yeah, my birthday is coming up. But what are you doing for it? Nothing at the moment. Okay. Oh, I did rent a pontoon boat, but it only holds like 10 people. So it's like, I don't even know if I'm gonna use that anymore because not to say like I have more than 10 friends, but like, I just would rather, why do I have to limit myself? I'd rather just go to public. Well, and also you group is bigger than 10, so how would you go? Yeah, it's, you'd have to handpick people and that's not nice, but I don't know. I might change my mind. I might like just decide. I only want to be with a few people that day. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. I don't anything. You go to the cape. I'm gonna the cape this weekend with just me and the plumber. Johnny boy mans me and mans. Yeah. He's never really been. We're gonna force him to go to the beach. He's not a beachy boy. So we'll see how that goes. I'll let you know. I love that. Can't wait to roast my fart ars. Okay, well in the sun, my rump, your rump. My rump. My ru What are doing? My rump. My rump. Bunch of cookouts. Gonna see the girly pops hot dogs. I need to see. My, my bi true, my niece and nephew I have not seen yet, so I have to go see them in the new house. I have a bunch of gifts for them now that they've moved. Bless, bless. And my birthday is also coming up. Not really sure do there. Yeah, that was, you just brought up mine and I obviously that coincides with yours, so. No, that's okay. I think we're gonna go to the cabin, which is my favorite place on earth and is just the best. And my friends will all be up there and it'll be amazing. So I'll probably do that cool piece. Yeah. And other than that, it's like sitting at home for a bit and like truly resting and taking care of my body. Yeah. For you need to for a minute to maybe save some money, you know?'cause I went, couldn't we all? I went absolutely fucking ham. I know, but you have to when you're in that moment whatcha, are you gonna do living yourself hands? I know, but do I think, do you know what it is? When I travel, when I'm working, while I'm working, I think people think I live this like crazy life. It's not, we legit. Go outside for a bit. We get groceries, we cook at home, we watch Netflix. Just like your landscape before we go to bed. Different yeah. Yes. It's like very slow. It's not, the weekends are way more fun because you have so many more options. Yeah. Like St. Lucia, it was like Friday night party beach, day out at night. Dinners like it, it does get crazy on the weekends, but the weeks are slow. This was 14 days essentially on to bash her. It Damn like I, I, she'd be tired and it's all, let me just say she needs peace. Self-imposed a lot of it. Yeah. It's not a complaint, it's just like a No, Maria did not plan 14 days of things. No, they planned a wedding and then I went. Didn't say it. You hijacked I, oh my God. We just had the best time though. And it's just so beautiful and like I was thinking of you,'cause you know how you love to walk around, you like pick a new. City, part of the city to walk in. Yeah. I was like, you would love this. Like the people watching the gelato, the shopping, love shopping. Like, I went shopping so many times, Colleen, and you know, I fucking hate shopping. Oh, I was just gonna say, that shocks me to hear. No, there's this one main shopping street. There's just the yummiest food. You can go somewhere and get wine for three euro. Ugh. My dream. It's just I just kept thinking of you and how much that atmosphere, there was this like beautiful promenade on the way to the beach. It was a 15 minute walk. I would be fucking doing that every day. I do not do that back here. No, God no. You know, it's just a different, a different world. It's just same old, same, you know, it's just the same old, same in this bitch. But anyway, I am happy to be home. Happy summer everyone. I hope your summer's going well. I hope you've shoved. 75 hot dogs in your face at this point. I hope that for you too, as the good Lord intended. Some's still here, shove as many as you can. Yeah. You know, your time's not up. There's so much time left. If you have not had a hot dog or a sausage peppers and onions at Fenway, I do need to make that happen at some point. Yes. Yes you do. That's that's high on my list. Every summer I wanna go to tall ship. Oh yeah. I wanna get cute. I wanna go out. Oh, I'm going on a boat night this Saturday. It's like one of those EDM douchey boat nights, but me and my girls from college are going, so I'm really excited. Okay. I love that for you. That's different for you. Yeah. So we'll see. Wasn't expecting you to say that. No, I was, they sent like the boat night info and I was like, done. I'm booked and busy. I don't even care what the music is. I just wanna hang with my girls, you know? Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. So a bunch of us are gonna go and, yeah, we'll see. We'll see the summer, where the summer takes us, she's just a semi girl. She's just a semi. Slay. Okay. Slay. Love you mean it. Love you mean it. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Goodbye.

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