That's a Boy Job

On this week's episode, we recap our birthday celebrations which was filled with lots of drinks, hot dogs and boats (as it should be). Then we get into the topic of the week... THE SINKING OF THE OCEANOS. What was meant to be a luxury cruise for 571 passengers quickly turned into chaos when disaster strikes. Bridget takes us through how the ship’s Cruise Director and entertainers stepped up to try and save everyone on board and emerge as the unlikely heroes of the story. It's basically The Greatest Showman meets The Titanic. So strap your guitar and drums down and take cover, it's about to get very windy, very wet and very smelly. Add it to the list of reasons you will not catch us on a cruise!!!

Sources:

• Against the Odds Podcast - Season 55

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Listen to your heart when he is calling for you, the opera version. Listen to your, there's nothing as you can do. There was a pink song that came on the other day that unlocked something for me. Mm-hmm. It was, oh my god. I ha no, I'm so sorry. I have to, I have to detour to look it up. It is. Don't let me get me. Mm-hmm. I had it on my hit clip back in the day and it's been in my head. All I hit clip. Did you have the hit clips? Of course I had hit clips. I know some people dunno what those are. Why don't you describe to the Gen Zs who listen to the peeps that don't know you're stupid. I'm just kidding. But clean, you know, you weren't living, you weren't living. How about that? Yeah. You, you didn't understand the hit clip was like, I think, I'm pretty sure iPods were around at the same time. Yeah, I think so. Sure. It was pretty sure it or it was like, like just about to be pre I Ponty. Yeah. Pre you had these little things that had a clip on the back say it was like in the shape of like, I think I had mine in the shape of like a little radio and I had a little clip on the back and you put in like what would be like a mini cassette into it and it would play just one song. And we thought that was Li L-I-V-I-N. Yeah. And that was before iPods iPhones, all of the tings. Imagine an iPod shuffle right now? No. Literally. No. I don't think my parents would buy me one or the iPod Mini. The like little tiny, tiny one. Oh, I think I had a mini, I think I had a mini. I think I was, and you could clip it and like runners would like clip it on their shorts and stuff. Baddies couldn't be be, no, you know that's not what I was doing with it. No, of course not. We were like laying choreo horizontally. It was for the choreo. Oh, I was horizontal. Oh, okay. Just for a vibe. There was no movement. No movement at all for me. But hey, that's showbiz. That show Biz Baby. Hi everyone. Oh, do I say, oh, I, you know what? I said, Hey first. So now you beat me to the punch. Hey, welcome to this week's episode of Sipping with Shannon's. We're cousins and every other week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk some shit, and we have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. And I'm Colleen Shannon. And we are on the couch. We're on the couch. We're in front of the air conditioning because it's, it's another squatch. It's hot as Satan's asshole out there. I'll tell you, sweating like a stripper in church. It has me wanting to go to Water Whiz, and there's nothing that makes me go, oh yeah. And you know that shit's disgusting. And I wanna go. I wanna go. You wanna go to Kennedy Lake and ride the Boston Tea Party? I literally do the lake. I mean, not the lake. The log ride. I'm about it. The log ride. Oh my God. Iconic. I swam in the lake. Is that still there? What? The log ride? Yeah. Yeah. Is that safe? Yeah. I mean it was safe then why wouldn't it be safe now? Oh, do you know why it's safe? Because if I went now, it would be quite literally three feet tall. Correct. When, when I was a kid I was like, this is the tallest thing that's ever lived. Because it, I mean it still is to me. Yeah. The Tea Party is like I, I don't know how I ever survived. I hate the Tea Party. We did that in Disney with the kids and they were spinning me around and I was like, oh, I actually hate it here. No, no, not Teacups tea. The Boston Tea Party. Oh, the Boston Tea Party with the Splash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big Splash. Yes. But didn't they turn down the splash? Because I think it got too aggressive. I don't care. That's so rude. Yeah, I think for a few years the Splash,'cause you would stand on the bridge. So if you've never been to Canby Lake Park, there's a bridge you used to be able to stand on. And there was this one ride called the Boston Tea Party. And it was quite literally, you would go up, you would come down. That was the whole ride there. There was no big splash. The, and you were in like a big boat type thing. Car, boat, I don't know, whatever you wanna call it. And it would make a massive splash and everyone would stand on the bridge so you could catch the splash. So you would get wet without going on the ride. And that just crazy. It was so crazy that like kids would get pushed around from the force of the, like it was nuts. I think they turned it down. Drama. I'll look into it. I'll Google it. Fuck them kids. Tell'em to grow up. Buck up bitches. No, I'm saying this is preparing you for life. You're welcome. You'll thank me later. It's about girl character. I used to Lake Park on purpose with this girl that I used to be friends with when I was younger because she got a liver transplant and she used to be able to cut the lines, so I would only go with her just so I could milk that. Oh, she's fine. But it's just like, please. There's people with like diabetes and stuff that like, literally like shouldn't have to wait in line because like they, you know, need a snack and she had a, and she just could cut the line. She had a liver transplant 10 years ago. Like, it just doesn't make any sense. Speaking of diabetes, did you see that Demi Lovato joined the Jonas Brothers on stage at a comp set, the fact that that made you correlate with diabetes? Yeah, it was. Every single time diabetes is brought up calling you, bring up how you prayed for Nick Jonas and cried for him'cause you thought he was gonna die. Everyone did. When you look me, oh wait, no, sorry. A little bit longer and be fan, but honestly like not really. Nicky dude, you got that for life. Your BDS ain't just going away. I was gonna say it's it's lifelong. Lifelong. Get that pump. Did something happen to you when she went on stage? No, I was actually quite shook because obviously she's been through it quite a bit and I know that she got married recently and like happy. She's looking normal, looking well, so I was expecting a comeback of some sort, but not at that caliber. Didn't see that combo happening. Yeah, she looked great. Yeah, no, I'm here for it. I would like to know what had happened. I know medication may, maybe some therapy, maybe some medication. I feel like she's the poster child for therapy. Maybe like a good relationship. Someone who maybe treats her better. I don't know. Makes her feel better. But she looks great. Whatever she's doing. I hope she keeps doing it. No, yeah, she's slaying and honestly, I'm not like an adult Jonas brothers lover. You know? Why not? I don't know. I just they give you the IC now? No. Kind of, yeah. No. Yeah, kind. No. Yeah. Kind of. I don't know. I'm like, they're fine. I just like wouldn't go outta my way to listen to the music anymore. Mm. I do love that song. Leave before you love me or let whatever the fuck it is. Sure. Yeah. That's good. That's all. That's the one I, it's on my walking playlist. Can I tell you, I went to the Apple store recently and was so overstimulated and I thought Colleen would fucking hate this. Yeah. I probably wouldn't go. I went into buy a new iPhone and I like went into the Burlington Mall because I was in Burlington already and I thought it would be easy. It wasn't. It was an hour and 45 minutes of hell. I was second in the queue. I actually cannot get over the lack of common sense just in the world. Like people straight up do not know how to act anymore. No, it's pathetic and I, I am shocked by it, like just basic human skills of looking people in the eye asking a question, like customer service listening. I, I just can't get over it. And these poor Apple people were running around like crazy. And then. One of the, this guy who was like, clearly unwell was with his mother and his grandmother and they sat down outside of the store because it was taking too long. And then when it was time for them to come, he couldn't find them. And they can't move on to the next person in the queue until they're done with you. Yeah. And if, if they do, you go back into the queue. So it's not like, oh, okay, we're waiting for you. Let me jump to the next person. They have to check you out. So where everyone in line is now waiting for mom and grandma to be found, it's just you. And then this young girl's like yelling at her mom'cause she wants the newest iPhone and she's a teeny bopper. Wait, can I ask you something? Not to interrupt you, but why don't you just go to your service provider? So everyone has asked me that. Sorry. No, that's fine. I was in the mall and I was like, oh, I'm just gonna go into this like it's here. I just, it was the most convenient thing at the time. I made a mistake as it turns out. However, I did get this wonderful man shout out to David in the Burlington Mall Apple Store. Okay, David, what an absolute gem of a human being. He is. We talked movies the whole time. He was so wonderful and he was so kind and there was an issue. He was like, don't worry about it. I got you. He just was the best. And at the end he said,'cause I returned my phone. Like I did the trade in situation'cause it's hundreds of dollars off if you do it that way. And I trade mine in. And he literally had to ask me, are you gonna sit down and set up your phone right here? And I was like, no, I actually have to go. And he said, do you know how to get home? And I was like, ye yes. And he said, people come in here, they don't wanna stay to set up their phone'cause they don't have the time and then they don't remember how they got here or they use Google Maps. So I just wanna make, and I'm like, we have. We have lost the plot as a society. We have lost the fucking plot as a society. And he told me a story and he was like, a woman came in here and she was panicked. She could not get home. And she was from Lexington, which if you are not from here is the town over. And the Burge malls pretty much a staple. Like if you grew up anywhere on the North Shore, you know what the brewing tomorrow is. You know how to get there. You know how to get around there, the town over. And she was like, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to get home. Like a whole ass grown adult woman. And he was like, yeah. So I just always like to check when people reset their phone that you know where you're going. I was like, I'm, I am. Well. Thank you though, David. Thanks for checking. Big shout out to David, my whole point of this is in the line, everyone's yelling, there're at teeny bobs with no clothes on. There are moms getting yelled at. There's grandmas who are missing. There are hearing aids. Like it is truly. A human zoo and the fire alarm started going off. No, and I, there was a point where I was like, I'm out, but I was already so close in the line. Yeah, you couldn't get, I was like, why? Yeah. Yeah. Did you have to evacuate the dance floor? No. Thankfully I got seen right after that and like I already knew what I wanted and I was ready to pay. Like I was ready. I'm, I'm the dream situation. I go in, I'm like, I want that. Here's my card. Leave me alone. You're not like, how do I turn this on? So much of that, Colleen. No. I said to David, I said, how much patience do you think you have? And he said, it's learned. It didn't come naturally. They do classes in the back. I actually thought that was really sweet. They were all sitting on those benches and people were learning and I was like, I admire those people for being like, I do not know how to use this thing and I wanna teach myself and get better. I admire that. But yeah, adults being like, wait. Where is the i I was like, I would lose my god damn mind. It's a no from me. David said I get yelled at a lot sometimes when people don't remember their own password. And I was like, cool. That's so cool. You need a raise someone. Get David at the BU tomorrow raise. That's all I'm saying. What have you been up to? How was your birthday? It was good. I actually have to fill my notes for this because, you know, T Brain, Oh, at work they threw me a Halloween themed birthday party because obviously it looked awesome. It was a slack. It had me getting pqs. I haven't said that in a while. Pqs like right. First thing in the first thing in the morning. Love that for me. Yeah. Good start. Yeah. Very kind, very sweet of them. I tried to get to my dinner reservation, but I fear there was a hijacking situation outside of my work and she's actually not being dramatic when she says that she means that literally because it was on the news and people were sending me Snapchats and I'm like, that is where Colleen is actively at right now. And trying to get out of, to make two reservation for it, but like, send the National Guard, send them for me. I need to be rescued from this situation. Can some cop come and just guide me through this mess? Please. Because it was, it was the day of your birthday too. It wasn't like Yeah, two days. It was the day of in in man's had all these things planned and you were actively trying to leave work and couldn't. Could not, could not do that. And it started to downpour, it was a whole thing. The whole street was closed, whatever. Anyways, got from point A to point B, not the point. Yeah. Went to dinner with mans, had some, vodka pasta and some Peru and some barta, and a lot of a spritzes and espressos and I made it on his Instagram story. So it's legit. Hell yeah. That's how I qualify it as legit if I On the post. Yeah. Yeah. Not like a repost or anything. Like no photo taken post love as requested by him. Not myself. That's Nick. That's Nick. Yeah. Yeah. You can't ask for that. He's like, come on, lemme take a picture. I'm like, okay, fine. Don't need to bye. Stop begging me already. Yeah, no, that I actually, very unlike me, was asleep by like 11:00 PM I put on Ellen Enchanted and then we like fell asleep. I was like, I missed the end scene. This is legit criminal behavior, but kind of the dream. Yeah. It was sweet. It was nice. Nice and wholesome. It was wholesome. I had way too many AOL SPRs. I was like belching. Oh yeah. It wasn't cute, but it was fine. It was good. You giggled? Yeah. Great. I did have a giggle. Oh, I had such a good hot and dirty at embryo. Mm. It was so good. So love that for you. What else, what else? Oh, the next day I went, I introduced him to the high school girlies at gran, at Granite Links. Nothing crazy. It went fabulous. They loved him. It was a sleigh. He took pictures of us. Good. Boyfriend photographer situation. Did he actually take good photos though? Yeah, he did. And he's usually terrible at it. God bless him. He said, I'm usually the one that like, they asked me and then the minute I give the phone back they're like, can we have someone else take it? I'm like, so, oh, we'll teach you John. We'll teach you. It's, you can literally take, its the floor. And I would tell you it was good. Yeah. No, no, I'm upset. Yeah. Oh, I had my boat day. I did, I rented a little pontoon. It looked, I at one point looked at your location. You were quite literally in the middle of a bay. Yes. And I said, good for her. They have sandbar. They have a sandbar. That's why,'cause that doesn't obviously pop up on Google Maps. It was great man's made literally like five foot long subs I forgot utensils. So, you know, we are just biting and raw dogging'em. I mean, your friend group isn't really true. One for utensils. Anyway, they were so good. I Your girl needs a break for the meat. It's like I am thick. I will say. The best part of this is the night before when you were like, okay, we'll go to the store and just get cold cuts. And he was like, ah, oh. I sat in front of him and his brother. I said, oh, just go to stop and try.'cause they're arguing about like, this deli, if they'll be sold out, blah, blah, blah. Where should they go? Like, I never had a longer conversation about fucking meats in my life. And I was like, just go to stop and shop while I'm like out and about with my high school friends. And both their heads whipped and looked at me and I, you would've acted like I I shot their mother. God forbid a girl just suggest a cold cut from good old, just an easy cold cut from stop and shop. No, no, no, no. Not the prot. Can't get that there. That was really good though. It was worth it. So like I kept my mouth shut on that one. He was up at six o'clock in the morning in the dark, making the sandwiches in my kitchen. Sweet angel, because he didn't wanna wake up Fiona with the light like he is precious. Jim. He really is such an angel. It was such a good day. We had perfect weather. No note. I will say I was fun feeling to myself, because of course we pull up and there's like a couple other boats there too that people were probably renting out for the day. And we, me and John look at one of them and it's this beat up fucking pontoon boat. Like I'm talking Dense has seen some shit. It has seen the worst war. It's ripped, it has like, it's crazy bent to Nam a few times. There's a ladder on it that literally doesn't, like, there's a ladder inside of the pontoon that is clearly for like, when you park and you can get outta the, it doesn't even cook in any, there's, you'd have to, you know what, Colleen, this makes a lot of sense. Yeah. No one, this tracks a piece of the, the thing that's over it. I don't know what it's called. You know what I'm talking about? The the roof? Yeah, the roof is like hanging off. And so John's like, damn, like that. Imagine. And then the minute I check in and he hands me the keys to that one right there, I'm like, oh, fucking course this is our boat. Of course it is. Of course. It's so that was funny. It's just like, what? I said classic. Of course. No. Then we went up for our martinis at night at Moxie's. I've never been, you've never been to Moxie's in Seaport. You would like it there. Sure I would. Good martinis, good people watch, no notes love, really nothing there. Then I saw you guys during the week. Mm-hmm. That was a slide. Do you wanna tell us about that, Bridget? Well I have like a whole list of things. Okay. So you skip over that. Okay. And tell us the rest. We'll, we'll pin that to the side. Okay. Yes. This following week I went to Luke Bryan with Mans his family. Luke Bryan is a freak, like he's just a weird individual. Good though. He's good. Why do we say that? He just like is shaking his ass too much for country singer. Like if you ask him, I think it's gotten him the response he wants. Yeah. And so he continues to do it. I did notice there was an older crowd there and it's definitely just because like. That's like their version of like what we Oh, when I was in college, Luke Bryan, was it? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like I like him. I don't get me wrong, but like I don't need to hear knock them boots. Like I'm all right. No, he came out with a song and everything he came out with back in the day was a banger. Yeah. And then he came out with, was it Dirt? No, that's Florida Georgia Line. That's my kind of No, no. Love that song. Yeah. He came out with like th Cup. Cup. Let's fill it up, up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the worst thing you've ever heard. And then like the next 10 Sauce, the dust up, no shit, what is it called? It's Kick the Dust Up. Kick the Dust up. He came out with like 10 songs in a row that were truly horrific and I've never listened to him since. That's, yeah, that's what I correlate him with. So that's what I was like prepared for. Oh No. Country Girl. He put his whole ssy into it. I'll tell. Yeah. He was good though. Like he shakes that ssy. He was really good. But like also at the same time, I'm like. The, I'm like, oh, for fuck's sake, do you cut that? Let turn gag. Gag me with a wooden spoon. And also they had never been to Xfinity Center'cause they're like North Shore people so they Oh yeah. Yeah. So I, it actually is a great venue. It's just a pain in the ass to get to. Oh, it's the worst to get out of. Yeah, that's true. We were there for like almost two hours. I fell asleep in the car. Like that's how I just like the venue in the sense of, I think they have good food offers. I like their bar offerings. I like the seating. It feels intimate. Yeah. Without being masked. Have a good seat no matter what. Yeah. So like that aspect of it, I really, really like. It's just where I was blacking out in high school and like where people were getting fingered that I like can't get moved past it. Yeah, that's fair. The lawn, the lawn was a wild, wild place. Yeah. Life comes at you fast. That's where my first concert was actually. It was the Jonas Brothers. Of course. Naturally, naturally there was a set of couples in front of us and like. Hate to like be a hater, but they were like your age, maybe Aaron's age. Like I, I just knew and like the way these men gave me the biggest ick I've ever fucking seen. Seen. Oh no. It was giving overgrown frat boy. No, no. It was so bad. And I was like, how are these women that are with them that look normal, married to them? I'm just not understanding. They're like, yeah, bro. Like, oh my, it was the worst. And I looked at his brother that was standing next to me.'cause I knew he noticed too. And I was like, imagine being married to that. And he just like started dying laughing and he just couldn't, like, embarrassing. Yeah. Like this is it like men used to go to war? This is crazy. Just bopping around like little lima beans. Like yelling. Screaming. At one point, like one of them were like, should we just go back to the car, dude? Like, ew. And we were like, yeah, just go like, I can't explain it, but you just know the type of person and the type of Yeah. Annoying. Ugh, horrible. And I felt so bad for her, his MA's his brother.'cause he was just kind of like, say, I'll, I'll be the one that stands behind them.'cause his mom was like, oh, having a time. Yeah. So, but that was just my only note about that. and then the day in the morning after I went to Maine with his family and like, I seriously had the best time. I went on the boat. I swam in the lake in open water, which I don't like to do. There was tubing, we were drinking. I ate a hot dog. I mean, and there was a fire and there was tequila. I have literally no notes. Yeah, that's all your favorite things. Everyone was so nice. There was a dog, there was children. Oh yeah. Some of them were cute. I was gonna say, did you mind them? No. Well, sweet Johnny boy, he one of them was like, will you go tubing with me? So obviously we had to go tubing and I did not go with the tube. I was the designated drinker. I was gonna say, I don't think you should ever be on a tube. It was like the sitting. Oh, okay. Okay. So I was like, okay. So it was funny to see him. You hate to be sitting. You don't like how it makes you look. Yeah, but not if I have the life jacket on that covers. That lays. Oh, okay. That covers everything that needs to be covered, but there will be no videoing of me on it. Got it. That I can it got it. That can tell enough. But I got to watch him on it. And it was actually wicked funny. I did make a, a little girlfriend and I just really realized how much children listen. Like I just, oh, they absorb everything. So man's brother was cutting wood down, like by the water for a fire and she's like, hot. Yeah. Yes. Hot. Very lumberjack. And I, she said, can we go? It was the neighbors, they have neighbors that they're really close with. It was like the neighbor's daughter. And she was like, can we go see what he's doing? And I was like, Hmm, that's a boy job. Mm, we don't wanna do that. We wanna sit here like, you know. Yeah, this is where the girlies are at. Which, and she goes, oh, okay. And then she goes, but can we go look anyways? And I said, okay, miss Girl. So then we went down and we're watching him just chop away and she's like intrigued by it. And then she looks at him and she goes, that's a boy job. And I go, did you just get that from me? And she just like, giggled him was like, boy, job. And I was like, oh, but also like, am I allowed to be saying those things? Like, you know how it is these days, it's fine. Do you know what I mean? It's fine. I'm like, oh fuck. Am I saying the correct things? Like, am I teaching you incorrectly? I don't fucking know. Do you know Claire the other day said, Hey baby girl, babe, go. And I said it, and oh and oh, Badie bad d and that's really all I have to say to be honest with you. I did see a woman with her coochie out on 93, and that was, oh, that was crazy. My, it, you guys, you have to describe, you, you have to describe to the sippers what you witnessed, because I can't post the picture even though I want to. You ha, this is insane. Like I thought you made it up. Like we see the people on Mass Ave, like on methadone bile, like wild out. This does not compare. I was at a red light and on the other side face, she was going the opposite way obviously was she was also at a red light and I just see her door open and asked, she drops trow and all of a sudden I just see her like in with a face of relief and she's like, I don't know what was happening. I don't know which hole she must've, I mean that's desperation. That is like, no. Yeah. And it's like, I feel bad for you, but like also like I really kind of don't, like I've been desperate and I have not done that. She basically dropped trow, put her ass to the open door and then squatted backwards. Yeah. So like if you were looking directly at her, you'd only really see the top of her head.'cause her head was down. Yeah. So it was blocking the front of her and the door is brought, but she didn't blocking the back of her. But she way comfortably for my, and. In like wit tissue in hand. Like full stream. Yeah. Like she was prepped and ready. Like incontinence ain't cute. We started off saying that the beginning of this podcast, it's still ain't cute. It's still ain't cute. Pee your pants at that point. No, not in the car, but like not at a red light on a highway. Yeah. Literally a highway. It's not even like a little side road. No, it's the beginning of the highway. Yeah. So, no, that's all crazy. What did you do, Bridget? I was Claire Bear's third birthday. Which is crazy because one, she's three and two. The first time I ever saw her face was on this podcast. Yep. She was birthed on there, like this podcast started and I did not know what Claire looked like, which is, could I say it like we did not know her and now she's a whole ass 3-year-old. Dan's gonna be six. That's old. That's fucking weird. That's so close to 10. Don't do that. I don't like that at all. I'm really sorry. Sorry, Erin. My god, I didn't like that. So it was Claire Bear's third birthday, all the crowns, all the heels, all the accessories. She just wants to wear a crown and sing into a microphone. She's a true Leo Bebe. And then I had a Saturday where I had a bunch of plants and they all fell through and it was like a gorgeous 75 degree day in Boston. And I was just kind of feeling weird about it, like I had nothing to do. And I was like, it's not even raining where you can have like a movie day or like get cozy. Like it would be a day wasted if I sat in this apartment. And I went out into the world for the entire day and I asked Chad GPT to help me make an itinerary. Okay. And I was like, I've never been to the Isabelle Gardner Museum. Shame on me. That's crazy. I haven't been inside the Boston Public Library since I was, God only knows how old in the same thing with the Museum of Fine Arts. Never. I, I have like a memory. Of going on a field trip there when I think I was in either middle school or like elementary school and that's it. And so I was like, these are the three things that I wanna do. I wanna be outside. I love a cocktail, I love an app. I wanna walk around the city and I wanna be out in the sun as much as humanly possible, but like, I really wanna have a great day. What should I do? It fucking spit out an itinerary for me. Damn. And so it started at the Isabel Gardner Museum. And so I like pack up all my stuff. I get, I put on a really cute outfit I haven't worn yet, and I did my makeup and I was like, I'm about to go have a Carrie Bradshaw Day in New York or in Boston, like this is what I'm about to do. So I go to the Isabella Garden Museum and I got there at 1145 and the next entrance was at 3:00 PM Oh. And I was like have no fear. So I Uber to. The Boston Common. So I do the Boston Common, then I go to Contessa. Never been there. Got the last bar seat. You've never been to Contessa? Nope. You would love Contessa. Loved it. Sat at the bar, got the last seat available. Loved it. All the windows were open. It was so gorgeous out. Had myself a cocktail, had some apps, had some potatoes, obviously. Walked down Newberry Street window shopped. Went to Copley Plaza, walked around. Then went into the the Boston Public Library. Loved it. Went around the courtyard. Had myself a time left and went to the Fairmount. Copley had a drink. Uber. The Oak. What that? The oak, right? That's the bar there. Yeah. It's so nice in there. Oh, it's so stunning in there. Mm-hmm. Had myself a Cosmo, and this is so weird, but months and months and months ago, I either on TikTok or on Instagram, I don't know, saw like a beautiful reflecting pool. And all I remember seeing is someone commenting and it's in Boston, and someone commenting, oh, that's right by school. Like I bring my lunch there and eat there all the time. And I remember thinking, I need to find out where this is because I've never be, I've never even seen this. I don't know what this is. And I was in the Uber from Copley to the Isabel Gardner Museum and my head was down in my phone and I look up in the Uber and we're passing it, and it's that Christian science Oh, reflecting pool. And I'm like, oh my God, it's right there. So I'm like, I pull up my map and I see it. And so I go to the Isabelle Garner Museum. Loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it. Would go back in a second. Worth every penny. So fucking cool. One of my favorite places in Boston. Cannot believe I'm 35 years old and going for the first time. Loved it. Then I went to, I walked to the Museum of Fine Arts, did the Museum of Fine Arts, and by now it's the end of their day.'cause they close around five. Yeah, four or five. And so I got the whole place myself full night at the museum situation. Then I walk out and I'm like, I wanna go to Boyleston. I'm gonna walk to the Peru. So I'm walking and I walk through Northeastern and don't I fucking run into the Christian Science reflecting pool. So I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy. Then I walked to Boyleston. Then I stopped at Capitol Grill and got a snack because all of my maps, I kept putting in rooftop and all of the things we're saying, what's that new place at the Stratus or something? Oh yeah, yeah. It's like a bar. It's like that quote unquote highest bar in Boston, you have to pay$50, like just to get in and that doesn't count your drinks. I'm like, I'm not 21 anymore. That's not cute. I'm not doing that. So I went to the Capitol Grill, got myself a drink, got myself an app. Then I was like, okay, I'm running outta steam. I really, and my phone battery's on like 12%. So I Uber to Fan Pear Park, which is right in the seaport and it's where like a lot of engagement photos are taken. If you've seen pictures of Boston, it's like a very iconic view of Boston. Walk through that whole area, walk through the seaport into the north end. I get dinner to go in the north end and I was gonna go to the North End feast'cause it was in Boston and my phone was at 2%. I got in my Uber as my phone died. I got home at 8:00 PM. I was gone for nine hours. Damn. It was the best day. Like I had the best time. I listened to my podcast. I walked around. I was a tourist in my own city. I never do shit like that. I've definitely done duck tours. I've done the Freedom Trail. Yeah, usual. But I stick to like the neighborhoods I know really well. I loved it so much. Like I have like a core, I think I've told everybody this. I have like core memories in my phone, and anytime something happens that I'm just overcome with joy in that moment, I write it down. And I literally wrote Solo Boston Day. It was the best day ever. And I'm just so, not to be fucking corny, but I'm so proud of myself. Like, I could have just sat at home and moped, or I could have like, I don't know, driven around or like I, I was like, I'm gonna seize this fucking day and I'm gonna build myself an itinerary. It was fabulous. Live your life. And then birthday came and boy did wee birthday Monday. Full pool day. No notes. Tuesday I actually worked. We rotted and believe it or not, she does work. I do work. Wednesday was my birthday. I watched last cold choa. They're calling it a gay fever dream. I fucking loved it. It is so funny. It is so smart. It's so silly. It's perfect. I have no notes. Then I got my nails done. Okay. Then the girlies came over to go to a Red Sox game where there was a limited edition hotdog hat. Ugh. Okay. That was part of the ticket. And they do it once a year and it's for three games. And this was one of the three games. Oh, okay. And as we're about to leave, Colleen calls me and she's like, I was gonna drop this off while you were out, but I just checked your location and I'm coming in. Colleen comes in with a present flowers, the cutest card I've ever seen a card made for me. Really? Where she called me a big fat whore inside the card because then, then a T-shirt from the black rose. One of my favorite places on Earth. Merch. A little happy birthday. Wine glass, a little bag that I'm literally gonna use all the time with my name on it. That's blue. Hello. And then the ingredients to Tinto Deano, all of them with the recipe. 10 out of 10. Colleen, thank you so much. You nailed it. You fucking nailed it. It was so cute. And then you drove us to Fenway, which is like wildly kind of you to do. I mean, I, she was like, it's on my way. I'm like, it literally isn't though. I mean, I'd be in the car either way, you know? But we had a time, we listened to some music also. My least favorite couple got dumped from Love Island that day. I was like, what? A little birthday treat. Yeah. Dejan and Megan, get the fuck out of here. Or Meg, excuse me. But we went to Fenway. We had a great time. I got my hot dog hat. I had a sausage peppers and onions. I had my glass of wine. Happy as a clam. We went out, we went to Lansdown after Woohoo. Who then. Thursday. I got my hair blown out. I got her cut. We went out to dinner with the girlies, with mother, Erin and Karen. And Friday to Sunday I was in Maine with all of my friends, with no reception, with no television, boating and laughing so hard, my face in hurt. And I literally woke up and said, I think I have a new AB from how hard I laughed last night and spent the entire weekend with my friends. I came home on Sunday and I ordered a disgusting amount of Chinese food and I had this moment where I was like, am I hungover from No, but joy. I was so SI had like the blues. No, I mean like literally off Like hangover. Yeah, like hungover from Joy. Like this entire week was amazing. Like I have, I couldn't have been happier. Everything went swimmingly. It just was the best. Amen. Sister everything just worked out. Even the Boston Day, I like, oh, that museum, it can't take me. But four more hours, don't worry, I'm gonna get the last seat at this bar that I've always wanted to go to. And I'm, do you know what I mean? Like everything just slid into place. It was a, it was aligning, the stars aligned. Mercury is not ever choke. But I am reading a new series. It's called Red Rising. Okay. The Choke Hold. This has on my life. I opened up Instagram today and Brittany Broski is also reading it and now obsessed with it. That's when, you know, I stayed up late reading it. I woke up at 4:30 AM the other day and I usually go back to bed. If I wake up that earlier, I immediately put my headphones in to listen to it on Audible. I am completely obsessed with this series. I just know it's gonna be one of those series that. One day I'm gonna be like, oh, I would sell my fucking soul to read that again for the first time. Like everything I look at,'cause I'm trying not to find spoilers. Yeah. Is like, this is one of the highlights of like my reading life. Can you gimme the gist? Yes. Darrow is our main character. Okay. He is Irish. Okay. We ride a Don Forero. He is a sweet, sweet, sweet fucking angel. He's so smart. He's a red And very much like the Hunger Games in the caste system. Gold are the highest. Yeah. Reds are the lowest. And they're literally red. Like their eyes are red. Their skin is red. They're red. It's in space. They're in space. Oh, okay. And so he is red and golds are the highest. He's an Irish alien. It's just roll with me. Just roll. There used to be, just roll with me. Okay. Okay. Okay. So picture like hunger game system. He's on the bottom. He is. Physically, scientifically made into a gold. And he is put into an arena with houses whose children are also trying to win this game. Okay? Very hunger games, but very Game of Thrones. Very Game of Thrones. Twists, turns, allies, enemies, love stories. It is some of the, it's a masterpiece. Okay. Like I just finished the second book and my jaw was on the floor at the end. There was like a massive twist at the end. I I, I know I say this all the time, it's like way more than you say. A hundred percent.'cause you don't really say that anymore. No, I can't recommend it enough. It's one of my favorite series I've read in recent history. Okay. Sci-fi intrigue, suspense. It's everything. It's everything. Is there love? There is a love interest. It's not spicy though. Like on a scale of one to five, it's like a 0.5. Okay, cool. Five being like the hottest book I've ever read. It's a 0.5. Okay. Light love. Okay. No winking. Got it. But he has like this tragic, he's the most readable hero. He has this like tragic backstory and he has this awful thing that happens to him right out of the gates in everything he does. It's just, oh my God. Anyway. Red Rising, that's the series. You must read it. No notes. And I have no one to talk to about it. And so I need you to read it and I need you all to get back to me. Okay. I actually do need a book, so maybe I'll think about it. Okay. I don't know if it's your, I think you'll really like it, but I don't think it would hold your attention because nothing holds your attention. That's true. That's true. Okay, we're back from our pee break and our mambo number five. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mambo number five. Okay. We're ready. And so I am so excited to tell you this story today. Okay. I wasn't really sure where, what I wanted to do for this episode. And I was hanging out with my bestie Leanne, and she told me about this story and then not only told me about it, but then sent me the podcast where they do a deep dive on it. So huge shout out to Leanne. This always a huge shout out to Leanne. I mean, always, but like this particular story is so up my fucking alley. Got it. And when I explained it to you, you'll understand why. This is the story of the sinking of the Oceano, and it's actually so much more than that, but I do not wanna give it away in the title. So we will just start with that. Okay. Okay, cool. Okay, cool. So the main source used today is a podcast called Against the Odds. It's season 55. I absolutely loved it. It's really well done, and it's for episodes, they advertise that on either Morbid or Crime Junkie. Yeah, it's really good. Okay, noted. Let's rewind the clock. Let's go back to August 3rd, 1991. Okay. Great year. Mm-hmm. Were you born that year? 1990. I was close, so I'm one. Okay, cool. We're on the Eastern Cape of South Africa, in East London. So when I say East London in this episode, I do not mean the uk, I mean Cape or South Africa. Okay. I have a picture to show you of where that is. Okay. Oh. Madagascar's right there. So yes, Madagascar is right there. And we are getting onto a ship called the Oceano and 571 Families and Crew are on board. So 571 passengers total. Is it a cruise? They're preparing to go on a seven day cruise, luxury cruise. Ooh, this cruise is going to multiple ports like Mozambique and Madagascar before returning. So think of beautiful white sand beaches, like these beautiful beach destinations. There's gonna be live music, entertainment shows, food galore, booze galore. This is the place to be. Okay. And it's quick, like seven days. You zip in, you zip outta there. Okay? I would never go on a cruise. Can't, can't imagine. But that's, you know, you know, whatever. Live your life. Yeah. The seven day cruise, Boston to Bermuda is super popular'cause it's actually not that far away. But anyway, respectfully, so. Let's just say the crew is a bit hungover and the reason why they're hungover is because the night before there was a wedding in the bride and groom. The bride's dad was super, super wealthy and he bought out the cruise ship for the night. Oh. So the wedding was actually on the cruise ship and it was just the wedding. Wow. Right. So the whole crew was there in partying until very late hours in the morning. Got it. Even though they have a whole charter. Yeah. So they're taking a whole charter the next day. So they're a little sleepy, have seen blow deck. I know how this rolls. Right. So there's also something else that's a bit off about this day. A storm is coming in. Mm-hmm. And not just like a little storm, like a, a pretty big one in the area that they're cruising through is no stranger to waves or storms. Some may call it the Bermuda Triangle of South Africa. Mm. So they try to wait it out. They obviously are not trying to cancel altogether because lots of people have come a very long way. They do that whole thing of like, we can't cancel. There's so many people here. Right. It's their vacation. They're all very excited. Yep. So they're trying to wait it out. They're delayed about two hours before the captain comes on and says, you know, prepare for departure. It's time to go. The Oceano has a lot of characters on board. I can't talk about all of them'cause we'd be here all day. One of the main characters who I'm gonna talk about a lot is Lorraine. Lorraine Bets is that bitch. Oh, we love when there's a, that bitch character. We obsessed with her. Okay. I'm obsessed with her. She's 35 years old and she's the cruise director. And when they're getting ready to leave the porch, she's with the dancers and the magicians and the comedians and all these other entertainers, and she's basically giving them a pet talk. She's in charge of the entire passenger experience from beginning to end. Mm-hmm. So like she, she's gotta keep the energy up for everybody. So she's giving them a pep talk and she's like, I know you guys are tired, but we got a whole new crew of people here. We got all these passengers who are excited. Buck up. Yeah. Get that work. They're here to have a good time. We're gonna give it to'em. Step your pussy up. Yes, exactly. Also, as a special treat, her 87-year-old grandmother is on board with them. Aw. She calls her Nan and she is barely five feet tall. Stop. Little nugget Nan. We will get back to Nan. Lorraine is talking to the entertainers and she looks out the window and she sees that the water's really rest. And she sees that the weather is not looking good and she's watching and she sees a lone tugboat get swallowed by wave. Oh. And then just Bobs back up a couple seconds later. And in that moment she actually isn't worried. She's dealt with, I mean, she has the experience. Well's a talk boat. On a cruise ship. Yeah. And she's just like, it's gonna be fine. I'm not that worried. It doesn't look good, but we'll be fine. We've all seen the Titanic. So she's finishes up with the entertainers and they're not going that far. They're not going that far to the next port either. They're going to Durban. Okay. So it's not that. If you look it up on a map, and I can post a picture of this for everyone, it's not that far. Okay. So she's like, we got this. She finishes up with the entertainers and she hears about an issue on board like Lorraine, is that like she's the cruise director. If there's an issue, if something's going on, you go to Lorraine. And it's a stench. What the fuck do you mean a stench? It's coming from the lower cabins. We got bodies on board and it's starting to get noticeable and Lorraine finds the engineers and she's like, fix it. Fix it. Our passengers are complaining. Yeah. This is unacceptable. I'm not fucking around. Fix it. Yeah, fix it. Giannis, Ani is the captain. He's Greek and you don't say, yeah. And so is the boat. The Oceano is a Greek boat. A lot of the crew are also Greek. He looks to be about 50 ish years old and he has 30 years experience. When Lorraine introduced herself to him, she called him Captain and he said, you can address me as God. Oh. So if that gives you any inclination of like who he is as a person, God bless, Reen. That's all I'll say. And she mocks him. And she goes, oh, and she does like an overly dramatic bow. Mm-hmm. And does the whole thing over again and then just keeps going, God, the reigns that pitch Right. There's also a married couple on board. They're the musicians. We love them. Okay. Moss Hills and Tracy Hills. Love, love, love. The hills. They have a 15-year-old daughter, Amber. She sometimes would join them on the cruise, the cruises that they would go on. But she's in school at the time, so she's, she's back in home. We love Moss and Tracy. So Lorraine is getting the party started. They kick off the voyage with music. Tracy and Moss are singing, people are drinking. Spirits are high. But as they push out to see the storm is getting worse and people are starting to lose their balance. Like at one point there is a Congo line and they can't keep the Congo line inform. Oh, okay. Like, you know, Lorraine's doing her shit. There is no piece, but there's no, no, no, no, no. At one point the grand piano slides down the stage and hits the drum set. Oh. So Tracy and Moss are like, okay, everybody, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back in a little bit. And the party was usually on the deck out. In the open air, like it would be by the pool or whatever. Mm-hmm. And they pulled it inside this particular evening. And as they're like, all right, we're gonna take a quick break. Tracy and Moss look outside and the awning over the pool deck rips off and vanishes into the storm. Oh, good. And they're like, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. So they had one of the engineers go down and check out what the hell is the spell? Like, what is happening in the lower cabins? And he just knows, this is not gonna be good. It just can't be good. The, a lot of the piping, a lot of the things about the ship had not been changed in many, many years. Great. And so a lot of the things that needed updating are expensive and time consuming and smelly. Right. He looks into it and he finds out the venting pipe meant to clear out noxious gases is completely clogged. And the stench is backing up into the lower cabins. this is very bad news because the pipe has to be removed and replaced, and not only is it not easy, it's also fucking disgusting. It's a 12 foot long steel pipe. Okay. It runs through a watertight bulkhead into the generator room where it connects to the sewage tank. Oh. So it's just shit rolling through Uhhuh. Okay. In all of the, it's not bolts, but everything. Holding it in, they're all carotid because it's been there forever. So she's about to burst. No, it's the opposite. Like replacing, it's gonna take every man, woman in trialed on the ship because they're, they're essentially stuck. So you need all the force to. Get it loose, and then you have to change it while also not fucking with the generator system, while also not fucking with the sewage tank. It's very complicated. It's very difficult and it's very smelly. Cool. So the stench in the generator room is foul. They got the entire engineering team down there to get the corroded pipe loosened and replaced. It's hot, it's cramped. Like I said, the stench is unfathomable and the boat is taking serious hits. We're not talking about like a boat that's just cruising along. We're talking, we waves are knocking into this thing like it's nobody's business at one point. The boat gets hit pretty hard and they're, it's in the middle of them trying to replace the pipe, which they have to do very slowly and very steadily, or it gets super fucked up. The boat gets hit by a wave. People fall. They're rolling on the floor. They're trying to get purchase, and they're trying to reset and get back to where they were before the boat gets hit again. Too late, they're not in place, and they get hit by a serious wave and then something terrible happens. They hear a loud bang and they hear tearing metal. The sea chest, it's a large steel box and it draws sea water to cool the engines to keep the engine cool. It's peeling away from the hole of the boat. Good. It opens a hole in the side of the hole. That's how massive this thing was, like to put a hole through. Steel is crazy, with water is crazy. Water's too powerful. It scares me. It's wielded in place too. Yikes. So it's coming loose water is gushing in through a hole in the side of a ship. They all come rushing. They're trying to keep the sea chest in place. It's too much and there's so much coming in. One of them is like seal, so you can seal the room so that water just stays in that compartment essentially. Right? One of the engineers calls the up to the bridge where the captain is and there's always someone on the bridge to answer the phone. Yep. And they're like, Hey, there's a leak. The sea chest was ripped, ripped off the hole. And they go, you should fix the leak'cause you're an engineer. Yeah. Okay. No thank you. That's what God. God says. Thank you so much. Water is now coming over the threshold and running into the engine room. He then realizes this is just, this isn't just a leak. This is the beginning of the boat sinking. This is it. Great. He slams on the phone, he tells his team shut the generators off, slam the door shut to seal in the water, and we need to get the fuck outta here and we need to go talk to the captain. So the crew does that. And upstairs, no one is the wiser. Even the people who are the most experienced cannot keep their footing. Everyone is slipping and sliding. Moss ends up going upstairs and he secures the in instruments. He fastens the guitars and he ties down the drums, which was a very smart idea. Smart man. He's going back to the cabin to check on his wife Stacey. And when he reaches the deck, he freezes because he is shouting. And when he looks down, he sees a group of engineers soaking wet covered in oil, shouting at each other clearly in a panic. And he's like, Hey, what's going on? No one responds to him. He gets to the room and Stacey is on the floor because as the boat got hit, all their books, all their luggage, all their clothes, everything just scatters all over the room. Like their luggage fell down and opened and flew. Ah. Like that's how bad the boat is rocking. Got it. I just wanna be very clear. So she's on the floor like picking everything up, and then they hear a very heavy thud and everything goes black. It's just after 9:00 PM and the electricity is out. So the emergency lights, there are emergency lights they flood on, it's also very, very quiet. And that is because the motors are also dead. Oh. So we've stopped moving. Yeah. We're, we're, we're sat. We're sat. Okay. They gather their things and they head up to the lounge and they joke that the next set's gonna have to be an acoustic one because they still plan to play. They're like, people are on this cruise ship. We're gonna play for him. What else is there to do? We don't know what's going on. We're gonna play our set. So the engineering team gets to the captain and they say, we must abandon ship. And he basically says like, listen, you sealed the watertight door, it's gonna flood into that room, and we're Gucci. the engineer goes, no. We were placing the vent pipe attached to the sewage tank and we didn't have time to replace it or shut off the valves. And this is when the captain realizes they're completely fucked because what ends up happening in this situation is the boat will flood from the inside. It will, the water will go in the opposite direction. So instead of the sewage flooding out, the water in that room will go into the pipes and flood each cabin by the toilet. Good. Correct. So it's gonna flood in reverse and every bathroom is fucked. Right? Cool. And there's no stopping it. Like they weren't able to do anything in that room. They need to abandon ship. And the captain, says, how long and the engineer says eight to 10 hours, maybe. Hard to say. The propellers are useless because the generators are out and the captain leaves and says, I need to go tell my wife to pack her bags. That's his response. Lorraine is holding down the fort, but like, how are they gonna get out? I don't get it. Mm-hmm. Lorraine's holding down the fort. She was in her office when the electricity goes out and she's trying to make it up to the captain's deck so she can speak to him to figure out what the fuck is going on. On her way up. It's these, this massive staircase and it's metal. So the com, the whole thing is completely slick with water. She's holding onto the railing for Darl life and the winds are whipping her. She's getting hit in the face with salt water like she is fighting for her life to get up to the captain's deck. And on her way up, she glances down and she stops dead in her tracks because do you know what she sees? She sees several first and second officers swarming the lifeboat stations wearing warm clothes, carrying their luggage, and wearing life jackets above them. The deckhands are lowering the lifeboats. Her eyes lock on the second officer and she shouts and no one can hear her over the wind. And she finally gets up to talk to the captain and she's like, I just saw them leaving on lifeboats. What is going on? He barely acknowledges her, doesn't even turn around fully to talk to her and said, he says, we've had some engine trouble water leaked into the engine room. Tell your staff to hand out life jackets just as a precaution. That's it. That's all he says. So she's, she's like, something is not right. Like something feels really wrong about this whole situation, but she has to go warn the passengers. Yeah. So she goes down to the lounge and she says to them, it's not serious. We need to go door to door. We need to knock on every single door and tell the guests to put on the life jackets just as a precaution and don't panic anyone because that's what she was told to do. Yeah. Yeah. She then tells a smaller team, so like a bunch of people run off to go do that. And then like Moss, Tracy, this guy Robin, like this smaller team. The gang. Yeah, the gang. She's like, listen, I just saw officers getting onto a fucking lifeboat and moss is like, I just saw a group of engineers running up to the captain's deck, soaked in oil and water, like what the fuck is going on? So they're like, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna keep everyone calm, but we are gonna find out what's going on because something is not right. Got it. And it's up to us now. Cool. In the lounge, it's packed. Everyone's told not to panic. They're in emergency lighting, the whole boat is swaying. The staff is trying to keep it light. Some laughs, some sit in silence like people were eating, but their plates are falling into their lap. Drinks are, the bar is still open, but like people are gonna drink and like dropping the glasses everywhere. It's a mess. It's not a mess. But people like Tracy and Moss are playing music. So I loved this quote from the host of the podcast. She said, quote, the atmosphere is somewhere between a party and a waiting room, but no one knows what they're waiting for. So some people are like sitting in silence and some people are like, ah, fuck it. Play another song. You know what I mean? Everyone's, I know where we would be. I know exactly where we would be. We would be at the bar and you know, everyone's just reacting differently and they were told not to panic up to this point. So it's like, why would you eventually, people start to get a little restless, some eventually in the mi middle of Tracy and Moss's set, just yell like, what are the lights coming back on? It's starting to get to that point. Yeah. And they start singing American Pie and they realize that part of the song goes, this will be the day that I die. And seamlessly as the way that you can just, you know, the telepathy that happens with married couples or just being around someone that long seamlessly change. Mid song. So that part doesn't happen into Sweet Caroline where it begin, you're, you're on a sinking trip, right? They don't know that though. So people are singing along, they're trying to keep the energy good. And all of a sudden during Sweet Caroline, they hear a bang and they look out the window and almost everyone sees a lifeboat being lowered slowly on its cables. And not only do they see the lifeboat, they see that it's senior officers on the lifeboat with life vests on with their luggage in Mosco cold. And he thought to himself, if senior officers are leaving, what hope is there for the rest of us? Terrible. And so for 45 minutes they've been trying to play this off. They have just like everything's fine, no alarms, no panic, no communication to be had. They said it was engine trouble. And now we see whole ass first and second officers abandoning ship. So after Sweet Caroline stops, Moss goes and finds the comedian Julian, just, who else? Because Hello? And they're like, you and I need to figure out what's going on. Like we are gonna go investigate. Okay. Because they're clearly not doing it. So they decide to go to see for themselves. They're running down the stairs, and when they reach the lowest level, the stairway is completely flooded. No, it's already, it's already, it's happening. Yeah, it's happening. And they stop dead in their tracks and Julian says, oh my God, we're sinking. And that is how they figure it out. Now there is a drill, it's called the Birkin Birkenhead drill, and it is a tradition, it's a maritime tradition of, I don't know if you've ever heard of it, women and Children first. Ironically, it was created in 1852 after the sinking of the HMS Birkenhead on this coastline. The fact that the first and second officers abandoned ship, I, without maybe my understanding, but like, okay, yeah, we're getting off the ship, but like how were, how is that little tugboat gonna make it? So I'll just pause the story to say this. You, you guys know I'm obsessed with the Titanic. In the Titanic. The men who lived on that boat, the men who got off and survived, who worked on that boat were shamed for the rest of their lives. Why were you living and why were women and children killed? It's against every maritime law under the sun. Yep. Right. I guess my point of bringing this up is like, what's gonna happen after this? Like say this bocos down in all of these people die. How will you explain. To whoever you have to whatever maritime you have to answer to that first and second. Officers all lived in, every passenger died. That's not what happens. I will just tell you that right now. I would, I would warn you before I told you such a sad story. Yep. But like are, what's the foresight here? I don't know. Just like survival. Every, every person for themselves. You're all bunch of pieces of shit. Lord. The flies, Lord Flo, you're just such a piece of shit. Anyway, so back to the story. So they need to evacuate the ship before people die and without any of the crew and the entertainers are now gonna step in. Lorraine goes up to the bridge to talk to the captain. Captain again. When she noticed something, not only are they on the lifeboats, they're on the best lifeboats that have a motor, and the motor is meant for the most vulnerable to get them to safety the fastest. And they're also on the only boats that have a hard shell. Meaning if you have a hard shell, it versus an inflatable float, you can take on more. You can take on more. So they not only took the boats, didn't fill them with human beings, filled them with luggage and bulked up with all their warm clothing. They, they took the best ones. So she gets up to command center and she is livid. Of course she is. And it's empty. There are only a couple of officers over the controls. The captain is sitting in the corner staring off into nowhere. She lays into him. He doesn't even turn around and acknowledge her again. He said they left to get help because the engines won't start. And she's just like not buying it. And she goes back to the lounge. She runs over to the stage where Moss and Julian had just come back from the lower level and saw it with their own two eyes. And moss is like, there's water everywhere. It's not good. And Lorraine doesn't normally have the authority to make these types of calls, but all the officers are gone. The captain isn't doing anything because he's a little bitch. She's at emergency training, but nothing like this. This is insanity. Yeah. Her 87-year-old Nan is on the fucking. Boat Shall we protect Nan? She, she said, I'm the captain now, bitch. She gathers musicians, dancers, cabaret artists, magicians, comedians wait comedians, waiters and hostesses and tells them, you are to go door to door. You are to move women and children in the EL elderly to the lifeboat station right now. So that's what they do. Don't panic anyone. Don't freak out. But calmly bring every woman, child, and elderly person to the lifeboats. Okay? Then she pulls three men and she's like, get to the lifeboat station. She doesn't even know how to lower them. She's like, get to the lifeboat station. We need to figure this out. The comedian and the guitarist head over to the lifeboat station. It's bring it on out. It's just crazy. So. The two best lifeboats are gone filled, half empty and filled with officers. The junior crew is still on board because they were not told. And so Moss finds them and he's like, Hey, can you guys help us? This is like, this is an emergency. And initially they're just really, they don't know what to do. They're a leader. They're like, wait, I don't think I'm this. Because they're like, we take orders from our first officers, like we don't know who you are. And he's like, so they left. They're out there. So we need you guys. Like now, immediately spring into action. And I will say, Lorraine says later that this junior crew were Filipinos and they were actually not treated very well by the Greeks on the boat. And she said they are crucial for the people who do live. They are crucial to this story. Like, shout out to the junior crew and the Filipinos slaying. So at the lifeboat station, things are not going well. Picture this, the waves, the wind, it's all happening. Some are saying at this point the waves are up to 40 feet high. So how are we supposed to, yep. Okay. Without help with, with a magician helping you get into a boat without a vanishing act. I think, I think I would just stay on the boat. So the waves, the wind, it's all happening. The lifeboat is swinging so hard that they have to time it so that when it swings back, moss puts his leg out over the boat into the lifeboat and then squeezes his thighs together to pin it to the actual boat. And then when he can't stand it anymore, when they get two people on, he lets it go and they wait for it to swing, and then they wait for it to come back. They get one or two people on, they wait for it to swing and they wait for it. The guitarist with his thighs. Okay. So they're trying to get people on, they're trying to time it. They get nan on one of these lifeboats as they fucking choice. Okay? Nan gets on the lifeboat, they're going as fast as they can, but it's obviously taking time. They don't even know what they're fucking doing. So as they're doing this, the women, the children, the elderly, right? Husbands, there's this like really sad part where wives are realizing like it's the last time they may see their husband and their husband is just passing them, their three month old baby, and they're just whispering. I love you to each other. Like, just really awful. It's just really sad. And I just, it makes me so sick that the people trained to do this chose themselves first. There's a three month old being breastfed on this, on this cruise. Babies, literal babies. So anyway, men are passing their children off. Moss is squeezing his eyes together, right? We're all doing the best that we can. And then as they're doing this. They're still on the women and children and elderly, A group of officers shove their way through the crowd, take the lifeboat and then start wheeling it down. And guess who is part of that group? The captain. Yep. And Lorraine grabs him by the back of the life jacket. Like a collar, you know that little hook? Yeah. She grabs it and spins him around, and he's like, I'm just checking on my wife and daughter. They're on the boat. They're on the boat. She's fucking pissed. They let the boat down and Lorraine yells, you have to come back up. It's not full. And the guy yells back, we can't, it'll sink. Oh, you mean as opposed to the cruise ship everyone's physically standing on that's actively singing? No, like truly criminal, selfish behavior. Right. So at one point they lower a boat and on the way down it jams. And then it drops really fast and it goes sideways for a minute and everyone is screaming. It's chaos. Everyone's yelling. They figure out how to unjam it and they get it down safely. But Lorraine gets a call up via walkie talkie. Nan was hit in the head. No. Like if flying chain like hit Nan in the head and she's bleeding from her head and they're like, we need to bring her back up. She's not okay. And it's right when the boat drops into the water and it's immediately taken out by a wave, not taken out like dead. No, I know, I know. Like taking off in the current, no. And Lorraine is standing on this cruise ship, like hundreds of people need me right now and there's nothing I can do. So she keeps it moving. She's like, I have to trust that Nana's with good people who will take care of her and I need to help these hundreds of people. So she keeps it moving. There's another issue as the boat sinks. It changes direction and it's moving further and further away from where the lifeboats are, so they're separating further apart. Great. The musicians strip a wooden door from its hinges and lay it down over the gap. It acts as a bridge, so now people are walking over the door to get into the lifeboats that are at least 30 to 40 feet in the air. Uhhuh again, people are passing their babies over a door. I It's, we're still on women and children. Yep. The people who are in the water, you would think like, okay, you're out of the boat, you're out of the sinking. It's probably easier. It? No. You are open to the elements. They're soaked, they're freezing. There are people who are getting sick off the side of the boat. Oh. I don't go into that very much. People are sick from the moment they get onto the boat till they get off of it. Like everyone's getting sick. People are sobbing, praying. Crew members are trying to steer, but it's impossible in the waves. The crew who pushed their way onto the back of the boat, they raided the liquor cabinet. So they're huddled into the back of the boat and they're drinking whiskey. Mm-hmm. There's no drinking water. There's no emergency food. And Nan is bleeding. So the lights went out at 9:00 PM It is now almost 3:00 AM in the morning. Oh my God. Oh my God. And the crew didn't sleep the night before because of the wedding. Mm-hmm. At this point, every lifeboat is gone. There are 240 people left on this cruise ship. Even though Moss didn't know how to secure the boat into place safely, no one fell into the sea. No one was crushed in between one boat or the other. So they're like, technically it was a success. Right? But there are so many remaining passengers. Why there not enough life boats for people. People. Everyone's exhausted is my question. So I will talk about that right now. Okay, cool. The ship had eight lifeboats, which which was enough room for everybody on board. Two left, half empty with senior officers in their luggage. Okay. Two had to be cast off because of faulty gear. Yikes. One jammed and had to be unloaded. So Moss turns to Lorraine and asked, what do we do now? What do we do? They volunteer to go up to the bridge. It's moss in Robin, the magician? Mm-hmm. They're like, we are gonna go up to command center and we're trying to call for help because they don't even know, like, did anyone call? Did, did they just abandon? Does anyone know we need help? So they get up to command center, it's completely empty. Everything is powered on, but no one is there. They have no idea how. Imagine walking into that room. How do you know to use any of this equipment? How does any of this shit work? I have no idea. Bop so they keep just like fiddling with stuff. And at one point Moss is like mayday mayday into walkie-talkie almost. He's like, Mayday, mayday, Oceanus is sinking. Hello? Is anyone there? Right? And someone answers and they're like, hi, we know you're in trouble. Someone did call us. Can you tell me your exact coordinates? Like, no, I'm not Magellan. And Moss is like, I can't tell you. I don't know. And the person goes, why don't you know your coordinates? What's your rank? And he goes, I'm the guitar player. Dead silence from the other end and the person goes, okay, I need you to go find the captain. We need to know exactly where you are. So I fear they have abandoned chip sis, the magician. Robin says, you know, Moss, I've made a lot of things as appear in my magic, magic act, but the captain, that's the best vanishing act I've ever seen. So he's So he's still on the boat. The captain's still on the boat. Mm-hmm. But he's gone also. How is this not a movie? This is like the Greatest Showman meets the Titanic. I agree. This is crazy. So what they don't know is that, like I said, someone did call and they do have choppers on the way, like boats are on the way, but not fast enough. It's also pitch black. It's the middle of the night so no one can tell where they are and the conditions are BAD bad. Yeah, everyone in the lounge, the, the mood is bad. The mood is not great. Vibes are low, and the stench is no unfathomable, no. Get to the deck. All of the sewage is backed up. Get to fresh air. They go to Lorraine and they were like, Hey, the captain had to be pulled off the boat two to three times. He tried to get on a rescue boat two to three times, and multiple people pulled him off. The dining room is now flooding. They go back upstairs and they're like, we have to find the captain and he has to be above the flooding. There's only so many places he can be now. And so they're walking around trying to find him. He is underneath the stairwell, guarded from the wind, sitting in a deck chair, smoking a cigarette in Moscow. We need you to talk to the container ship. They're coming to save us, and he said It's not necessary for me to talk to them. What's his deal? They try to talk sense into him. He just smokes a cigarette, he doesn't respond, and he looks off into the distance. The way I would punch this man so hard in the fucking face, I would literally grab his arm. I'd be like, I would be threatening. Like the way I would just throw this man overboard at this point, like, he's such dead weight. He's so useless. But they do need him. It's 4:00 AM The mood is. It is now mostly men because they got most of the women and children and elderly off the boat. Robin, the magician, he's trying to light in the moon. Yeah, he's walking around. He's trying to, he's trying to make it light. He's dicking, he's digging around, he's dicking around. There is a boat in the distance that they can see, okay, but the water in the boat is rising too fast and Lorraine is like, they are not gonna make it in time. Another concern that she has is the lounges covered with windows. Like most lounges in a cruise ship, there's windows on every side. And she's like, if the water comes up and breaks, the glass will come in and we will have no hope. So she's like, alright. Everybody out on the deck, she has them form a human chain where they lock arm and legs up to the side of the boat and they stand there and they wait. And now it's 5:00 AM. Moss, Lorraine and Robin have been taking turns climbing up to the bridge to get updates. I will say the boat is at a 30 degree angle. Let me show you what a 30 degree angle is. Thank you. This is what the top of the boat is doing. Oh, so it's rising upward a bit. Okay. So almost Titanic, but not really. So it's rising up and it, I'll show you a video of it later'cause it's 1991. So a, b, c news took video of it, of what happens next. It also turns, so every step you take is fighting for gravity. So them taking turns to go up to command center is a lot, is, is a shit ton of work. Right? Cool. The captain of the other, the container ship that's saving them says we can't come in. Why? So the boat, the container ship is like eight to 10 stories high. Right? If you come in, they can't control where they're going because. The water is so rough, they will crush the lifeboats and they could also run into the oceano and, and sink it faster and have like catastrophic results. Like they could kill people accidentally'cause they can't control their own shit. when Lorraine tells'em this, Tracy says to Moss, do we swim to her husband? Do we swim? One of us has to live to see Amber. We can't both die. Stop. I'm upset. So it's, it's really dark. This is not a good time for all of them. It's 5:00 AM The only really good news because think of the people who have been out in the elements all night now. Like, think of how cold, how sick the waves are. Awful. They're holding onto babies. Like it's just no one is having fun, right? The only good news is because it's 5:00 AM the sun is about to come up. And the people on the lifeboat say they turn around and they see dozens of dolphins coming up out of the water. Oh, how nice. And it like gives them hope. For whatever reason, they're like, oh my God, maybe we will live to tell the tale, like maybe this won't end horribly. And then they see two helicopters. Okay, we're getting somewhere. So we're like, okay, rescue is here. We're not safe yet, but rescue is here, but like what the fuck's a helicopter gonna do? So the helicopter said, like I said, the ship is at a 30 degree angle and the wind is up to 60 knots, which according to Google is 64 to 72 miles per hour. Oh, okay. The wind great. They lower down. Our guy Paul Wiley, we ride a dog for Paul Wiley. He is a Navy diver. He is, I am obsessed with Paul Wiley. He's by the stern of the ship. And when they let him down, he swings like a pendulum and he falls so hard that he immediately starts bleeding in his mouth, like he's already bleeding. He just got there, he's bleeding, and he gets up and he climbs up to where the people are. And they didn't know how many lifeboats they were, but he's expecting to see like a few dozen people. And he looks up and sees 200 plus. And he has a thought, I'm gonna die trying to save these people today, and some of them are gonna die with me. And he's like, let's fucking go. Lorraine walks right up to him, she introduces herself, she gives him a megaphone, and she goes, tell us what to do. So our guy, he gets on, and I don't have this as part of my story, but he gets on and he's like, all right, we're gonna harness you guys up. We're gonna take two at a time to where no one into the helicopter. I know, but where above. I know. But in that, and then so they fly off, they unload, they refuel, and they come back and they keep doing that. That's gonna take a long ass time. Yes, that's correct. You can't put them on the boat, on the boat. No. Okay. There's not, there's not enough boats there yet. Got it. There's not enough safe harbor yet. And so apparently he landed so hard and so ungraceful that when he's like, all right, we're gonna harness you and pull you up. No one volunteers. And he's like, gang, I know that wasn't cute. Don't worry. Like we are here to help you. And then Lorraine's like, let's go everybody. And she gets people in lines two at a time. She's just making everyone move. And Paul is putting this middle-aged woman into the harness and he just sees this random guy like, come in, put himself in the harness. And Paul, in his brain was like, well, that was weird and aggressive. Was that the fucking captain? It's the captain. And the, the passengers start yelling, and Paul has no idea what's going on. Paul's like, I don't know who this strange man is. And Lorraine goes, let him go. We don't have time. And he's basically dead weight. Like, he's not helping us. Let him fuck. They know where we are now. Let him fucking go. And so he is brought up into the helicopter. Let's go back to the lifeboats. It's now 6:30 AM and we have a problem. Oh, for fuck's sake. The boat that's there to save them is too big and we'll crush them and they're slamming up against the side of it and it's flooding the lifeboats and everyone's screaming and it's just not good. So the big boat backs off a little bit. Okay. Big boat says, wait a minute. So the boat has to back off a little bit and they send down a big bucket. A bucket, A literal fucking bucket. Do you wanna know what that bucket was for? P Whole ass children? Oh, they need to put the children in the buckets and then they'll wheel the bucket up. Pull the bucket up. Okay. Babies, literal newborn baby. They had to stuff the little baby with extra clothes to keep it warm and raise the bucket up. That's so, ugh. I know. One of the moms is like, I couldn't even, she just closed her eyes while her kids went up. I mean, what else can you do? They went up a bucket. 70 miles per hour wind. Sweet. Just what on Earth, right? What a great, fun fact about you though, that you would have Oh yeah. As an newborn, I got pulled up in a bucket during a cruise ship. Yeah. Sinking. Yeah. That's pretty good. I'll give you that. That would win. Someone finally drops a harness and then someone from above mimics talk about trades, mimics how to hook themselves in and tells them they have to climb up the side of the boat like a mounting climber. And they have the rope up top and they have to walk on the boat to get to the top. Great. Like a mountain climber in 70 mile per hour winds. I cannot save that enough. Some of these waves are 40 feet tall. I would be like, I'll just wait, I'm just gonna wait this out. I'm just gonna wait this out. Lemme just what you do it first? It's, it's just inconceivable. So at one point the casino dealer, he's going up, okay, okay, okay. And something goes wrong and he ends up falling into the water. He falls out of the harness. Oh. And before. Before anyone can do anything, he drifts off with the current. And so people are super freaked out now'cause now they're like the harness isn't safe, but they, they genuinely don't have another choice. But imagine then having to go do it after you see that, you're like, oh my god. So my, this being recovered. I'll let you know. I do tell you. Okay. I do tell you what happens. There are only a couple dozen passengers left on the actual cruise ship. There's an elderly couple. I'm so upset. Bridgette, you better not fucking upset me. His name is George and her name is Greta. And they let the younger people go first because they said quote, let them go. We've lived long lives. It's finally time for them to get hauled up. Paul Wiley, he's helping them into the harness. They get Greta, you know, harnessed in and as they're trying to help George, he slips and he grabs onto her and there is a miscommunication. And in the scuffle, the people in the helicopter, for whatever reason they must have in the scuffle, thought it was like all clear. So they start to pull them up, even though he's not harnessed in all the way. And he grabs onto her and she's grabbing onto him. And the wind is so bad, they swing over open water and he falls and he falls 10 to 13 stories. It's 131 feet. It's 43 yards, so it's nearly half a football field into open water. Paul Wiley immediately dives in after him. Oh my God, Paul, thank God for Paul. Paul gets in the water also having, well, he fell from a shorter height'cause he fell from the boat. But same conditions, right? He realizes when he gets into the water, he doesn't know where he is. Like he, he remembers George falling and he's just gonna go in that direction. But if he moves, they're fucked. All of a sudden he hears whistling and everyone left on the boat, went to the side. And on their life vest is a whistle in their whistling and pointing to where George is.'cause they can see him. So Paul swims over to George, who is face down in the water in unconscious. No, he flips George over. He resuscitates him. George coughs up and starts gasping for air. Oh, George starts to panic. Oh, Paul completely calms him down and gets him on that fucking helicopter and then gets back on the boat. George and Greta, totally fine. Thank God Paul Wiley is not fucking done, you guys. His day has just begun. The other good news is that the lifeboats are finding their way to the rescue ships. So kids are okay. Families are reuniting. Our girl, Lorraine and the Oceano are not doing well though. Oh, the helicopters. They left to offboard some of the passengers and they need to refuel, but it's taking longer than normal to come back and she's looking around and people are getting desperate. So desperate. They're just actively jumping into the water at this point and hoping one of the lifeboats will come back and save them because that's how bad it's getting it. They're about to go down. I'll just tell you right now, it's about to go down. It's insanely dangerous. There are 50 people left. It's the junior crew, the fucking Filipinos. I will go down with this shit. Yep. Moss, Tracy, Robin the magician. A few of the entertainers in Lorraine are left. Lorraine realizes they need to jump. She's like, I don't know when the helicopter will come back. It's time to go. Some of them stay, but she takes a group of them down to the lowest part of the boat and she basically goes down to like where they're nearly in the water, where they're almost sunk and she can see a dinghy in the water picking people up. And she says to 64 people, we are gonna time our jump and we are gonna wait for the next wave. And when we jump in, we're gonna let the wave take us to the dinghy, and then the dinghy's gonna pick us up. And she does a 3, 2, 1 countdown. And all 64 of these people jump in the water and she's in the water. She's treading, she's treading water. She's, she's okay. And she's waiting for the dinghy. And she hears the sounds of the rotors of the helicopter to get the remaining people on the boat. And she laughs because when she was a teenager, she wanted to be a pilot. And her brothers were pilots too. And her dad told her that Girls can't be pilots in an emergency situations. Girls panic. And she smiles to herself and says, I guess I proved him wrong. What a batty. Robin comes back to the bridge. He goes One more time up to command center and he basically says to the boats, one last communication. They need a final headcount. They need to make sure they got everyone. So there's only a few people left. So Robin's on the line being like, these are the people left. It's Moss Tracy, Paul Wiley, and me. This is it. And on the line, someone familiar jumps on the fucking captain. Yep. And Robin's like, I don't wanna fucking talk to you right now. You, where the fuck are you? And he says, what degree is the boat at? There's apparently some sort of meter on the boat that tells you what degree. And Robin's like, I don't know. I am a magician. You are captain. So he's like, this is where you look. This is what you look at X, Y, and Z. It's at a 45 degree angle. Are we vertical at this point? Oh, up. Yep. We're hauling the up and up. We are up. We about to go down, down, down. Dead silence on the other end. Yeah, you fucking idiot. If you actually help people off the boat, this wouldn't even happen. I can't. He's just the fucking worst. So he goes back down. Every step is a fight against gravity. The bow is fully in the water, and the only place they can pull people out is the stern. Paul catches the harness, they put Tracy and Moss into it. They send them up. And then the last two people off the boat are Paul and Robin. And they say, watching Robin come up via the harness into the ship. He was in a full tuxedo from his magician. Set. Stop it. They were like, he looked like a magician doing a trick. He just like comes up out of the water into the helicopter in a full suit and tie. That's hilarious. And as they're flying away, as Lorraine sits on that dingy, finally save the oceano sinks into the ocean. Every single person on that boat lived really. Not one single person died. What happened to the law soldier? The casino dealer was pulled from the water six miles away from the boat. Holy shit. He was naked. Except for a jacket stuffed with$15,000 in cash. He told people not to worry. It wasn't casino money, it was his life savings shut. Sure. Jan. It's giving, I have an out to float away, never be seen again and start over in Madagascar. Yeah, but listen, maybe get your back. I guess. I don't know. I don't know. The captain was not ashamed or remorseful at all. He can actually help better if he's on the shore versus on the boat. That's sinking Colleen. That makes sense. He said something to the effect of, if I order an abandoned ship, that means everyone, it doesn't matter what time I go. Him and five other officers were convicted of negligence by a Greek maritime board. Nope, don't do that. Oh, and he would be immediately a captain of another ship and he was never held personally accountable in any way, shape or form. Not financially, not with the law. Never, never got a slap on, slap on the wrist, never got told he couldn't captain a boat ever again. Just onto the next gig. That's stupid. Fuck Paul Wiley received South Africa's highest medal of honor the Gold Cross as he should. And in 2021 on the 30th anniversary, they honored the civilian heroes like Lorraine Moss, Tracy and Robin, and all the others who saved the day. Junior Crew Filipinos. Hello. The Oceano is 300 feet below the surface and remains there today. And when I was listening to the podcast, all of that was done in three episodes. So at the end of the third episode. I was like, what could the fourth one possibly be about? They kind of do an update of like, where are they now? Type deal. Like what could be the fourth episode they interview Lorraine. Oh no, it's whole ass Lorraine. And they ask her about it, and here are the couple things that I said that she said that I loved. Moss had a video camera and was filming, and it became crucial to the investigation after the fact of how bad it was. The junior crew, she can't say enough good things about them. She said that one crew member started to panic at one point and once they realized how bad it was, and she goes, I hate to say it, I slapped him in the face. She goes, I told'em to pull the fuck together. Someone's gotta, she was like, I've always been bossy and I've always told people what to do. And it turns out in panic situations, people like to be told what to do. I need that. Yeah, no, everyone needs it. She also, this is the part where she explained the God thing, where she did the, like the mocking bow and like swept the floor. Yeah. And was like, oh God you can actually catch the sinking, like I said, on a, b, c news, she did not watch it. They were like, did you watch it go down? She goes, I couldn't, no, I, I just couldn't do it. And she was finally getting to safety and I think she just needed to be done with it. What did Lorraine go on to do next? Well, after she got home, she was home for five days and then she got a call to be a part of a crew in Fiji, and she was immediately on a boat again, and then she bad ended up starting her own business. And this is what I'll leave you with, this is what Lorraine said at the end, quote. An experience like that teaches you to wake up every morning and make the most of every day. And for me, if you really wanna do anything you can, and against all odds, all these people made it out alive. And that is the incredible story of the sinking of the oceano and the heroic civilians who saved every single person on board. I love good people this podcast Against the Odds also has like a survival book that you can get anywhere. And they, I, I guess I have not read it myself'cause I just listened to this yesterday, but I guess they talk about like human psychology and what happens in these panic situations. As someone who has been, unfortunately in many emergency situations, it really isn't built for everyone. Like, some people just do not react well and you just have to give them some grace. And you also just like don't know until you've right, and everyone goes, well, like, why didn't you do this? Or why? You have no fucking clue. You have no clue until you're in the thick of it, the absolute negligence, like I'm, I'm not even talking like they reacted poorly and they need grace. The negligence of telling your family, your children of packing warm, of bringing your luggage like they first officers put luggage on the best lifeboats they had without telling couples with a soul, little children on board that they were actively on a sinking ship. And if it wasn't for Lorraine and Robin and Tracy and Moss, there was this guy, Michael and Neil and fucking Paul Wiley, and people like George and Greta who go, you know what, if we die today, it will be worth it if other young people get to live. Those are the people I wanna focus on. Not this super, not one of those people should ever be able to work again. Who left that boat? I, that is your whole ass job. That is what you are trained to do. That is like walking into an ER and having all the nurses walk out and then being like, well, civilians, figure it out. Janitor come bandage me up. It's absolutely insane. But I really love this story because I like to focus on the good and the the people who figure it out against all odds. Yeah. I was expecting no death today. Yeah, I, yeah. When I told you it was right up my alley, I truly meant it. No. Yeah. I truly meant it. And like this is why. Never go on a fucking cruise ship. I, like I said, I've been on one, I think some people really enjoy it. It's like being on a mall. It's about the journey versus the destination. I'm a destination girly. I, I don't care to see a magician act. I, I can go see a comedy show when I get to the island I'm trying to go to. I'll just go see it there. I agree. Couldn't agree more. Absolutely not. Hard pass. That was good. I loved that. Yeah. I, I love a good, I survived in specifically where so many good people are part of the reason why in every single person lives. Do we think the casino dealer was trying to GTFO? Possibly because it says when he got, I didn't say this part, but when he got onto the lifeboats, he had a bag with him. And it's giving, like, I stole this. I, I took it and ran with it. It's giving also, why are you naked? You know, I'm thinking, well, his, his clothes probably got heavy and if he was swimming slash Yeah, maybe hypothermia too, because when you get hypothermic you would get really hot. I would say may, I don't know if he was trying to GTFO because like he wasn't doing it properly. If that's the case, like he didn't, he could have just gtfo like once he got to safety, like why do, where did you think you were swimming to? Like, you know what I mean? This is what I mean, there's not a lot of, there's no way you would just fall from the harness on purpose to GTFO. I think he would took advantage of taking whatever money when no one was around in the sink ship. But I think he thought he was going to survive. Like, I don't think he, he meant fall. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Those are my thoughts. Yeah, absolutely. Crazy. So this was in 1991, so would you like to see the video of the boat sinking? Yeah. Here we go. I, I can post this as well, gang. Or you know what, I'll put a link'cause I know that's not some people's taste. They can see a sinking chip. I think they'll be all right. It's not, no, it's not dead bodies or anything. Yeah. No one's on it anymore. Like it's when everyone else is off of it. Yeah. So it's not like traumatic or anything, everyone. I don't know. I'm just trying to be No, you mindful. Okay. I'm not a mindful person. You're right. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. like fully. It's fully sideways. Yeah, it's getting clear like where the Titanic goes up and then cracks it tips. It looks like it's doing a sidewards roll. Big yos. yeah, she's going down, huh? Yeah. Fuck that captain. You know, we just touch toes. Hated that. You know what? Touch toes with me hated that. And we probably will never go on a cruise ship. I would do the Heather McMahon cruise ship. And I would do, there's like an Alaskan cruise that I heard is really incredible. That is cool. I've seen that before. Before with like all the, the nature, nature. We were at the cabin in Maine, and they have a big pontoon boat now. Mm-hmm. So we went out and they were tubing, but it was kneeling. And I was like, simply no. Oh no. But we were all in the water at one point swimming and they were like, so Bridget, when you say the outdoors, and I said, I am, I am outsidey. I'm not outdoorsy. I want to be outside. I do not wanna be outdoors. And so they're basically giving me levels of like, where's your breaking point? And I said, electricity and working, running water in plumbing. Yeah, that's, I agree. If you wanna take me to a cabin in the middle of the woods. Where there's like a hot tub and like a short hike for some fall foliage. I could do that. I is there wine and running water and electricity. I'm good. A hundred percent. Are you like, Hey, if you have to go to the bathroom, go dig a hole, get fucked. No, that's where people get murdered. I'm sorry. Bug spray, not bear spray. It's very, it's very clear. I don't even really fuck with bugs. I don't really like bugs either. I just mean like the mosquitoes always get me. I hate the mosquitoes. Mosquitoes are annoying. They get by like my legit leggings. It happened to me this past weekend and I was too awkward to say anything, so I was just scratching. I have like four on my ass cheeks. Oh my god. I saw the most incredible shooting star changed colors. Oh, I've never seen anything like, like it in my life. We were joking. It's a UFO because that's how incredible it was. That's cool. Insane. But at one point we were sitting on the boat at night and we were all just like drinking and giggling and like being ourselves and it just got too dark. So I put my phone light on and turned it down so it wasn't shining in anyone's eyes. And Kenny was like, oh, do you want me to turn? The light on of the boat and we saw so many bug. Hillary was like, turn it off.'cause you could immediately see how many bugs were in and she was like, I, they can be there. I just don't wanna know about it. No agree. I just don't wanna be aware, which is totally fair. Let us be at peace. Yeah, no, no. I don't wanna know that they're there. Just hide from me. Yeah. Yeah. The bugs are not ideal but is is the beach nature? No it's not. Are you sure? Positive. Oh, that's rude. Positive. That's nature to me. I do like mountains. I just don't wanna climb them. I can appreciate a good mountain, but I don't I agree. I don't wanna climb them. You know how they have those cute little at a ski resort off season, you can take the gole up to the top of the mountain and like hang. Yeah. Love that. Yeah, I'm cool with that. That works fine by me. What are you up to this week? What do you got? Oh, I'm going to Nantucket. Ooh, fun. Who you going with? The girly pops. College Girlies Home Girlies. Home girlies slash college girlies. It's a mixed blend. Oh, it's a mix. Yeah. We shall see. I'll let you know on the, where are you? Like did you get an Airbnb or something? Yeah, we got an Airbnb. Except we're over capacity. So like really hoping. That's not a problem. So is it so expensive? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's, but it's okay. It's for the memories. It's for the memories. I'm in my fucking era. I was talking to my friend Amber the other day and she was like, oh, I wanna go to this concert, but I have work and I'm like, called sick. We're on a floating rock in the sky. There's horrible news every fucking day. Do it for the plot. Do it for the mems. Who fucking cares at this point? Not me. And she did it. And she was like, thank you for being a good slash bad influence in my fucking era. And I was like, anytime. Anytime. So now you just need the friend. That is the bad influence.'cause it, at the end of the day, what will you remember more the day you went to work or the day that you played hooky and you went to see a fucking concert for someone you really wanna go see? I'm sorry. The 200 bucks is worth it. Amen. So I hope everyone's in their fucking era. Oh my God. I had so many hot dogs the other night. I kept thinking of you. How many? So many. Oh, I love that. I had one. Only one though. I, I may have had a gummy, so I was like extra. Extra chompy. I think I had two and a half. Ooh, good. I was in unfamiliar territory, so like, I couldn't like be my, I couldn't dive in with multiple hot dogs. Oh, you're not there yet. I couldn't scare them with the fam. You can do that with him with multiple hot dogs. Oh yeah. With him is totally fine. He knows I love a good hot dog. He actually put it in front of me with ketchup'cause he knew I wasn't gonna reach and get it. God, I love him. No, me too. If he fucks up, I'm gonna kill him though. Oh no. He would never. Okay, great. No notes. No notes there. Alright, everyone, shove a hot dog in your face. Buy the concert tickets. Don't go on a cruise ship. Okay? Ever, ever. Love you mean it. Love you mean it. Live like Lorraine. Bye bye Lorraine. Forever. And Paul Wiley.

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podcast was produced by me, Bridget Shannon. Music is written and performed by Matt Derosiers. You can find his band, Super Stoker, anywhere you listen to music.