This Is An Eerie Episode

On this week’s episode, it's Sp0o0o0o0oky Season! We kicked things off at our cousin’s wedding in New Jersey where Bridget got a tarot card reading and Mans met the family! We are officially accepting this new energy. 

Then we get into the spooky stories of the week. Bridget reads terrifying Reddit ghost stories that will make you sleep with the lights on, and Colleen does a deep dive into Netflix’s TRUE HAUNTING: ERIE HALL. Chris Di Cesare moves into college and all he wants to do is be a runner and a track star. Little does he know he's about to live in the most infamous haunted dorm in New York. 

Bridget wraps it up with a personal story about a sign she can’t explain and a roundup of the spookiest spots in Boston. So light a candle, queue up Hocus Pocus, and pour yourself a midnight margarita because it's our Spooky Episode!!

Sources:

• True Haunting: Episode 1-3 - Netflix
• Reddit
• ChatGPT

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Transcript

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good evening. Foolish mortals. Tiptoe by the window. Oh, the window tree coming. I don't like it. Tiptoe through the two lips. Hate. Okay. Done. Thank you. What is that from? That's from, it actually plays in Insidious now that I think about it. Oh, that's why I don't know it. And it's creepy. Did like give you pqs It gave me the opposite. Really? I had pqs. It just gave me cues. Shiva a shiver MeToo version down my spine. It's our spooky Halloween episode. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I didn't like that. Are you not excited? No, I am. I just didn't like that. I don't know why. Okay. Well if I do, if you had to do something, it was giving Disney Channel. Yeah, I didn't like that. If I had a little wand right now, I would make the Mickey ears. What would've been your move or your color? I always thought of that one blue. Okay. That's true. That's fair. That's a fair statement. Yeah. Blue and like, probably fucking sparkly or something. I think I would've done the Mickey years and then like twirled it and then like hip popped it, you know. Oh, a like a nice little hip hop. Yeah. What would you have done? My hand definitely would've been on my hip. Yeah, for sure. It, it would've been like a pose. Oh God, this is so random. But I saw a TikTok the other day. I have a that So Raven episode, and it was like, why did we just let this one go? First of all, that's a Raven Did. Were you an avid, that's a raven or was that not your day? Yeah, no, that was, that was legit. I re they have full episodes on TikTok sometimes, so if I'm like scrolling, I literally will just like casually accidentally watch an entire episode.'cause they're only like 20 minutes long if you think about it. And I'm like, oh my God. I just watched an entire episode. There was one that had a clip of Eddie dancing and I simply need to play it for the people. It was like, he's like this and he, and it's again, we're not a visual podcast. I understand. His leg is just like smacking the ground and his whole body's going with him. It is just like people need to dance like that. Actually, I can pull it up if you want, if you want Good giggle or if you care. I don't know. Oh, I found it. No, I didn't. I'm sorry. Okay, nevermind. Whatever. It's just funny. That's all you need to know. We'll post it. Yeah, I'll find it and I'll post it. We can all giggle. Have you seen the woman They did a bit about this on SNL? She's a psychic. No. And she gives readings in like three seconds flat. I don't know where she's from, but someone will be like, Hey, so I, I wanted to talk to you about my dad. And she's like, he's daddy drowned. And they're like, thank you. And they just sit down. No, no. And one woman's like, I'm just trying to find my father. She's like, he's alive. He's in Florida. Does that make sense? And she goes, no. Thank you though. It sits down. She does it. So when Amy PO's on SNL, they did it. It's if you watch a video of this woman, it is, it's awful because these people are like desperately trying to talk to someone. She is just yelling out random shit. Does that make sense? All right. Gave him Ovn. He's dead. Theresa, sorry. Caputo. Theresa Caputo would never, she would never, for Theresa Caputo, who I met in person, made giggle, would never, I love her. My one claim to fame stop. Oh, anyway. Hi everyone. Hey. Welcome to this week's episode of SIP with the Shannons. We're cousins and every other week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk some shit. We have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. And I'm Colleen Shannon. Are you excited for your hellos Eve? I am. I am. This comes out right before, so I won't ask you what costume you're going with. I'll have to ask you next time. Yeah, no, we'll circle back because I don't, I thought this was gonna come out after, so I was like, oh, tell us now. So by the time, but it, no, we don't, we don't wanna spoil this surprise. I mean, I'll, I'll tell you offline. An I-R-L-I-R-L, can I tell you how many messages I've gotten that people also don't believe in, he Keller bring forth the deniers. There are so many. So let me tell you something. In episode half coming, she has risen and Erin, a mother, Erin, had a really good idea for a Helen Keller episode. So tuned more on that to come, but I think you guys will love it. Stay tuned. We'll circle back on this. So how you doing? I'm good. I'm here. I'm alive. I spent last weekend with you, so you already know what the fuck I did. Mm-hmm. I dunno what I did the weekend before that. Oh, I, I I went to Salem just to feel a little spooky and it just like was dead as fuck there. It was crazy. Yeah, it was hot. No, we talked about this. No, I went again. I made, I made Oh, you went with mans? I made mans go. Yeah. He was just like, what is the tea here? Wasn't that great. Truly wasn't that great. It wasn't my true. Wow. It didn't scratch the itch. No, it didn't scratch my itch, but that's okay. We went, we came, we saw, we conquered no notes. It sounds like you have a ghost. Did that note sound like someone was here? No, it definitely did, but Okay. That's a phone. That's someone playing something on a phone. Gretchen and Kyle got married. Our cousin Gretchen. Hey, in New Jersey, we went. I flew Colleen drove with Man's. Oh God. Don't even get me started on that one man's intro to the fam. Yeah, he did great. He did so well. He did so well. He was a dancing machine. He's perfect. No, it's he. I mean, everyone was like, oh my God, we love him. I'm like, yeah, I know. He's a fucking gem. He just felt every thought that I had prior to having significant other, the panic, the all of the, which we have, I've obviously voiced on this multiple times. I don't even think twice about it. I just feel as though he's been here. Do you know what I mean? We all said that we were like it. Karen said it. He walked away from the table at one point and Karen was like, it's like he's been here the whole time. Yeah. He's just so easy. Yeah, he is just kidding. No, but it was great. They had a tarot card reader, which I'll tell you what she told me in a little bit. I feel like, I don't remember if I even asked you what, oh, I have, I have the, the lowdown, the skinny, it felt very spooky to do a tarot card reading. Oh cool. I love that. So I brought what she said and then they had this thing, there was this woman in the corner and she was at an easel with a light and she would take your picture and then she'd be like, come back in an hour. And she took Colleen and I's picture the silhouette she painted us is so beautiful. Yeah, we could never look like that. I legit might, we might use it as the podcast, like we might spruce it up and make it the new pod picture because it is so stunning. It is thrown in. It's on my fridge. Sorry. If you wanted it, I immediately took it. Oh no, I didn't give a shit. I'm here more often than not, so, but I also love, that's such a cool takeaway from a wedding. I do love that. And never thought of that. And it's not like a stupid, like knickknack, you know what I mean? No, no, no, no. I, I immediately put it on the fridge eight piece band. We danced the night away and at the end not asked, the cousins impromptu threw an after party on the patio of the hotel. Yeah. It was like, let's head on yonder. All, all of us were kind of like, because earlier that day we had been sitting on the patio having drinks. Oh. And so when we got back to the hotel, we weren't ready to go to bed yet. We were like, let's go outside. I go, does anyone have a speaker? And Karen was like, I'll get it, obviously. Then our Aunt Terry, literally Auntie Terry for president. This is Auntie Terry who we go every year. She makes the baked potato soup and we go every year for Thanksgiving. She is just the best. And she made a two foot chicken cutlet sandwich, had french onion dip chips, pretzels, Doritos, everything. So she comes out with all this food, food feeds, all of us. You know me running around Dancing Mans is dancing. Karen's on dj. Erin and Joe are having a time, I'm not wearing shoes. And then I, of course you're not in shoes. And she did leave her shoes there and go home barefoot. But there's so much onion dip like I found underneath my fingernails. Oh, like a savage animal. Yeah. No, I couldn't stop. And I remember being like, this is a Shannon specialty. Like that's so gross. It really is. I'm like, is that embarrassing to be like our lip onion dip is a Shannon specialty. Everywhere I go, I bring Cape Cod chips in the soup and the sour cream mix. Mm-hmm. The French onion mix. It's scraped to the bottom as always. People love it. Yeah. But we were bouncing around and then I realized the bride and groom had come back and they were sitting in the lobby. And if you were in the lobby, the doors were kind of blacked out, like you couldn't see it. And I guess we weren't that that loud. So I walked in, in the groom, cousins are all there, and I'm like, did you guys know that we are throwing you an after party mere 50 feet from you? And they were like, no, what? And they came outside and they were like, oh wait, what the fuck? I'm like, I know we've got food. We've got a dj. Like, and the party continued. Kate got us. Kate was so funny. Brendan was like pouring champagne down people's throats. It was great. No notes. Yeah, we had, we had a wonderful time. It was so good to see everyone. It was, I remember we were like doing circles around the table to like Candy Stanton or whatever her name is. What's sentence sharing? Oh yeah, there's one. And that's like the last memory I have. Young heart's friend. Free forever. My cousin Paul Michael calls it townie mother music because all those songs like Donna Summer Yeah, they just play. But specifically they hit, they hit young hearts, run free. I actually wanna a comeback of those types of songs. Disco. Disco. If they played club disco, I would go to the club again. I would lose my goddamn mind. Lose it. So yeah, we came home and here we are. Yeah. Can I tell'em about my first night experience? Of course you can. So, dare I say of, of very special part of, I was sitting, running my business on Friday night. The wedding was Saturday night, and I was going to meet the Swirlies in the morning. We were gonna leave really early and just like head to Jersey, all the things. And I had a little bit of FOMO because I knew that Aaron, Bridget, and company were going to be flying in Friday night, Friday night. So then I was like, well, what the fuck? So then I, and we were gonna go out to dinner and get drinks together. Yeah. And spend time. And I was like, well, what am I just doing sitting at my apartment? Like, I thought you had plans. No, that's why I thought you were coming on Saturday. I didn't. I just like didn't think of it. And so I was there, it was like literally noon and I'm like, why don't we just go? And so mans came over, he left his apartment at one. We did not land to New Jersey to our hotel that my was recommended by whoever. And we went to and booked and I didn't really look too much into it. Mind you, you know your girl has stayed in multiple motel sixes. Super eight. So yeah, we're not better than, yeah, no, we're not better. Like I would, the bars low. How could it be that bad? It's a hotel. If you are functioning to the public, how could it be that bad? Right. Do you know what I mean? Right. So it's like almost nine, I would say eight 30 ish. Nine. So poor man has been driving forever. He did not let me drive. Which makes sense'cause I'm a terrible driver. So we arrive in the air in this area. It's just a little different, you know. It's a really tough part of the town. It's a tough part. So turns out there's a difference between East Orange and West Orange, and it's a very, very big night and day difference. So didn't know that. Not familiar with this area. So, oh, so the drive was supposed to be three and a half hours, correct. It ended up being like six and we stopped a couple times. I did stop at the James Gandolfini rest stop because I had to and yeah. Oh, we'll get there. Don't worry. Okay. And we pull up and I'm on the phone with Karen and I'm like, Karen, and she's like, oh, just come to me. We'll all like go get drinks. And I'm like, Karen, you have no idea what I've just pulled into. And she's like, it can't be that bad. And I'm like, no. Like we are silent. Like to the point where he was like, don't even speak, like put your head down and like, let's keep it moving. It, this hotel, you guys literally wreaked of something I've never experienced like a public place smell. Like we walked in and the where you check in was boarded up by Bulletproof Plexiglass. You hear people screaming in the background, like all different, like it was just, it was. The air was different. People smoking weed inside. Inside, yes. It was just the area in which you just like, you feel weird getting outta the car. Like you look behind you, do you know what I mean? I don't feel that way very often. I'm not really like into my surroundings like that. No. You were in a bad part of town and your instincts were telling you so on top of your surroundings and the vibes. Yeah. So I'm dying laughing and you are accurate. I'm dying laughing and I'm like, this can't, because I'm like, of course this happened because your family booked this. This isn't just a hotel you and mans are staying at. This is also where your parents were staying. Yes. Your brother and your sister and their spouses. Correct. They sought this out and I thought, oh, and they were coming on Saturday. Yes, I was. So you were the first to arrive. I was the Christopher Columbus of this scenario. I was the first to discover the tragedy. Not Christopher Columbus. Yeah. We sailed. The IES of the Lewis and Clark part two always, always comes back to that. He wouldn't even let me sit on the bed. We got, we did get to the room. I just couldn't stop laughing and I kept being like, oh my God. Oh my God. And he's like, stop it. Stop it. I couldn't sit on the, and we, I could literally couldn't even sit on the bed. He's like, don't sit on there. We ended up getting a new hotel. It was a whole thing. We found our way to the Irish Pub and I had a lot of wine and all was well, but just now it was tough times for hot minute, but this would only happen to me. Do you know what I mean? What, what's the eye roll? This would only happen to me. This that happens to Matt about it. Probably like a woe is me. As in like, it's funny, like, I thought it was hilarious. He did not. It. It's funny. And I love him for when you guys got into the room, you sat down the bed and he said, please don't sit down. And he immediately booked. Like he immediately found a solution. Yeah. He didn't become part of the problem. He didn't have a little meltdown. He wasn't like, well wait, he pulled up his phone. I think he, when we pulled up, we immediately were not staying there. Yeah. He pulled up his phone, he looked locally and he was like, so we're booking this one. And he just booked it and said, get in the car. And then he booked it, got in the car. Dropped your shit off and then you came and met us at dinner after driving for seven hours. Correct? Same. He, we pulled in and we saw old people and we said, we are, we are fine. We're okay. We're all right to the place. Yeah. We also, we were waiting for our Uber to the bar to beat you guys. He pulls up the hotel, the old hotel that we are at, and looks at the reviews and literally says, Colleen, this review is from four days ago. And it says there are bullet holes in the chair, there are bugs in the coffee pot, and it smells like smoke everywhere. Stay far away from here. I've stayed in like, whatever, that's nicer. And he goes, Colleen, this was four fucking days ago. And I was like, I didn't look. I didn't look. It was an honest mistake. So yeah, that's, that, that was funny. But the next morning all was well because I put on my tracksuit and we went to go see Tony Soprano's house. You went to the soprano home? I went to the Motherland. I feel. I felt anew and it was great.'cause it was quite literally like 14 minutes away. Drive. Yeah. At first he was like, no we don't. Like, why do you wanna go? Like that's like kind of far. I'm like, fish posh is far. You're just complaining'cause you drove eight hours yesterday. But I we're here, we're going. So when we got in the car, we got a jersey bagel and we went on our way and then met you guys for beverage. Love that. Yep. I had a very different experience. We flew this time because driving home from the bachelor or the bridal shower slash bachelorette was. Not sleigh the worst day of my life and my dad has died. So, no, it actually wasn't that bad'cause I just laid in the back and rotted and tried not to throw up. But on the way there we were like, okay, we're gonna fly. And if you guys have ever flown from Boston to Newark, it is quite literally a 45 minute flight. You get up into the air, they walk down the row and they have plastic cups and they're like, does anyone need water? Like, they don't even do a full, they don't do snacks, they don't do beverages, they do nothing. And then you get up to cruising altitude and they're like, alright, if you have to pee, you have 10 minutes. And then 10 minutes goes by and they're like, get ready for the departure or get ready for landing. It's crazy. It's so fast. But was wonderful. No offense. Our hotel was like, the hotel everyone stayed at,'cause I booked mine a few months ago. Yep. It was great. And then we went out to drinks and Colleen called me and was like, we need alcohol. Where are art? Where art Pow. And I was like, well, so we went to an Irish bar, which is pretty on brand for us. I immediately found peace. We had some apps, we had some yap, we had some giggles. We found some peace. Mm-hmm. We all hang out. Just, just the cousins. It was lovely as the good Lord intended. Yeah. And then we woke up, I did my hair in rollers and my brother-in-law was like, you're not going into public le And I was like, oh, you bet your ass I am. This needs to sit for four hours and I'm not gonna be shy. I don't care. Yeah. Who cares? You never sees people again. But also like, I just don't care if someone sees me and is like, Ew, what's happening in your hair? You've clearly never seen a woman get ready. I dunno what to tell you. I didn't judge you. Yeah. I'm, even if you did, I don't care. But I appreciate that. So we went out, we had some, again, some Bevs, some apps, some Yap. And then we had fun at the wedding. It was a overall lovely experience. The pussies were popped for sure, and then I got to the airport, not feeling my best, got myself some meatballs, had a glass of wine and disassociated while watching. Love is Blind. Speaking of which, let's get, give me a recap. So I haven't finished the wedding episode just yet and I, there's apparently like a big thing that happens I haven't seen yet, but I'm sure I'll have seen it by the time this comes out. It is just the worst show. Like I hate watch it every single time. No one is, well, love is in fact not blind. The experiment is over. We got it. It was. Lauren Speed and Cameron season one. Really? Yep. And then there's like a, I would say maybe two or three more maybe, but that's it. It's over. It's over because now it's just saturated with like Yeah. People who wanna be famous. Yeah. It's not like, it's like ruined it. It's kinda like love island like that in a way. Yes, exactly. Like it used to be pure and wholesome and we could get behind it. And then it got so big that it's like ruined the experience in the experiment. Everyone needs to go to bed. Everyone needs to put the glass of wine down and go Annie, there's this girl Annie, she's a hairdresser. She is shitfaced in every single episode. I like that they let them get shitfaced though. Like not like they don't on Love Island. Oh. They're like, and record. Perfect. Time to shine. You know what they need to bring back, sorry to cut you off. Bad Girls Club. We don't talk about that enough. I think that I agree with you. Yeah. I like have the whole intro in my head at all times. I love that for you. Sorry. Continue. That's right on par with the other things that you watched as a child. The only person I liked was kb. She deserves financial compensation for the dealing with the child that she had to deal, I wouldn't even call him a man, the child, she had to deal with Mancha. So there's this guy, Joe, who's the worst, and he couldn't have been less attracted to the girl he got paired up with. Oh, that's, he even says after he sees her, I usually go for skinnier girls. He doesn't say it to her though, he says it in an interview. No, this man will never see the light of day again, and he must be ruined, ripped to filth. He literally just treats her awful and then she feels insecure. Mm-hmm. So then it makes her spiral and then add alcohol. So it's just, you're just watching. You're like, he's obviously not attracted to you. Yeah. You are more into it than he is. Is she even, you know it obviously you're gonna say no, but like, is she actually, is she like a large No, she's a perfectly normal sized human. Hmm. That's really upsetting. Just, and she's beautiful. It's like, but she, the more insecure she gets, and so many women feel this, the tighter you hug. Yeah. Because you're like, no, no, no, no. I want this to work. And it's just, he's the worst. And so at one point he's doing his tux fitting. And if you haven't seen this, like skip ahead obviously, but he's doing his text fitting and he doesn't know how to tie his own tie. And he like has this spin out and he has this awful breakup with her, which I way appreciate someone breaking up with you before the altar then letting you get that far. So like, I'm actually glad he didn't wait. At the end of the, he's, she's like, you don't even look up. She goes, you don't even look upset. And he's like, no, I'm really upset. Just like, just like nothing. And she's like, is it someone else? Like, did you see the other single people from the sh Like, is it No. Yeah, I got nothing. I can't tell you anything. He walks outta the apartment and the episode ends and Manchild by Sabrina Carpenter played and I said, kudos to the producers. That's crazy. Kudos to them. They recognize. They recognize, I mean he just was so obviously not interested in her and it just made it really painful to watch because he was obviously telling her things behind closed doors.'cause she kept telling the girls about like how affectionate he is in bed and how they have this great sex life. And he was obviously saying one thing and then he'd get in front of the cameras and be like, yeah, she's alright. Brutal, brutal. Patrick. Ugh. Patrick sucks. Casey sucks. There's a girl called Sparkle Megan. She literally would introduce herself and she'd be like, hi, I am Sparkle Meghan in her defense, which I won't do a lot of. I think there was another Megan, so she was saying like, I'm Sparkle Meghan, not other Meghan got. But there's like a lot of different ways to differentiate yourself from the other. Megan. I could be, I could be. Don't even get me started on her. Wait just to go back to Annie for a second. I found this on TikTok. So please take this with a grain of salt. Some girl found a comment from her ex-boyfriend. Huh? This girl? This shit face Annie hairdresser. Mm-hmm. That said, this is completely on par. Of how she acted in the relationship. It's why I broke up with her. She's has a DUI. Oh, which they went it's public record. So they went in and found the DUI that's like the common cold these days. And she apparently got shitfaced, stole the ID out of his wallet and tried to go to at and t and see his bills so she could see if he was talking to other women. And he was like, yeah, and, and I tried to get a restraining order on her whaf and then everything was dropped. So like it that you won't see that, but that happened. So take all of that with a grain of salt. Interesting. She made me agree with a man I don't like and I will never forgive her for that. I'll never forgive her for that. I don't wanna side with him. Come on man. Girly pops only. But anyway. So, hey, watching Love Is Blind. Almost done with it. Just brutal. Yeah. Is the end near of that season? Yes. So the last episode of the Weddings came out today and then next week is the reunion. Got it. So I'll have all the reunion tea by the next episode. Dude, the perfect neighbor. Very upsetting. I am so upset. I guess like I didn't know about that one thing in case you wanted a good giggle first three minutes ago. This has to be fucking Florida. Oh yeah, for sure. It has to be Florida. First of all, I've never seen a documentary done like this. It's really well done. And they only use body cam footage from the cops. Interrogation room cameras, ring cameras, like none of it is a documentary crew that sits down and interviews across from you. Mm-hmm. They just let the footage do the speaking for you. It is so well done. It is such a horrible story. It is absolutely gonna be one of those documentaries that sits with me. Like when Erin texted us the other night was like, is it worse than high school catfish? Oh, I was like, it's not even on the same planet. Nope. Nope. There is a part. And if you haven't seen it, please skip ahead. I know you guys know that by now, but just skip ahead. She doesn't get arrested and I nearly, I nearly threw my phone across the fucking room and a cop shows up.'cause she's obviously not safe to go back to that apartment alone. Yeah. Nor fucking should she be. And he says something to one of the women like. Can you just make my job easier? Yeah. Or can. And she goes, make your life easier. Are you fucking gay? And I was like, correct. That is the correct. Can I, can you just make my life easier? He's like, I get it, but, but also shut the fuck up. But also read the fucking room. No one cares about making your life easier right now. Yeah. But also, not to play devils, but he had no choice but to bring her to that house. So it's like, can you just not No, he, he absolutely did. He was trying to avoid, they were so angry. It thoses poor babies. And they should be, they should be angry when he's like, mom's not coming home. No. When he said, my heart is broken, I ah, lost it. Yeah. Very upsetting. It's just, it's such a terrible story. I'm glad it ends the way that it does because if there had been no closure, I would be flying down to Florida. I would be one of those crazy people, like on the block with a sign picketing and rioting and fucking. Pillaging because I, I just, I needed a close passion. Be passion. Oh, that poor woman. Anyway. Dancing with the Stars on a lighter note. Wicked night was last night. How are you feeling? How are you doing? You write a dawn for Andy. I love Andy. He lives to see another day. So I did see something that was like, guys, it is dancing with the stars though. And like at some point you have to let him go home in the sense of one woman posted a TikTok, she's like, guys, he's fine. He's like a very funny, successful comedian. We're not like killing him. He's, he's not walking off. He's the best. His tiktoks are the funniest. He's just the best. He had such a good dance this week though. Oh my God. And I do get like, part of the point of it is that they do get better that they don't know how to dance. Yeah. And they get better. That's one of the best parts of the show. So they say, yeah, but how are you feel? I didn't watch really. A lot of it. Um, I hate Whitney so deeply and I hate that she's good. I feel like Jen might go home next season. I, next season, next episode. She just like, was seeming a little bit off and I love her. I think she's so Is she the brunette? Yeah. I just wanna like, put her in my pocket. She's so cute. Alex is so fucking good. Alex. Earl's great. Yeah, she's so good. And she's like, honestly like a very lanky person, so I didn't know how that would pan out for her. And she's actually really good. Love her and Val together. Who am I missing? I love Elaine. Danielle Fisher. Oh my God. Defying Gravity. Yeah. Where she went up on the thing. So good. So good. Oh my God. And I love him. I love her. But my hot take is, I think if she wasn't given that song or that piece, or it just happens, it would've been her, like her having a bad week. She wouldn't have gotten the scores she got. And I don't think she would've, I don't think she would've gotten home, but I do think she wouldn't have gotten the scores that she got in that reaction. Wait, what's his, what's her partner's name? Alona Mar's partner for last year? Who I love Alan. Love Alan. Yeah. Alan Robert Erwin. I miss, oh my God, I love him. I love him. If I didn't love him, he would gimme the biggest egg, respectfully. His dance to his mother, with his mother weeping. The, I looked at Fiona and Aaron on the couch last night and said, I would actively jump in front of a train for his mother. Seems rational. Honestly, no. I, if it was needed, God forbid. Yep. Do it. I would do it for Robert and ndi. Dylan Efron, I don't really care for him. He makes me weak. Did you watch the traitors? No. Oh. That's why. Oh. Oh, you didn't watch traitors? No. Oh, you're missing out on so much life. Oh, I, I feel sorry for you in this moment. Jill Nephron is a slay, slay, boots house down. Fucking, he's a cutie patootie. I just, he doesn't do it for me. He doesn't do anything for me actually at all. Slay King. Yeah. No. Nothing bad, but nothing, we're missing someone. We are missing important people. Who are we missing? The Pentatonics guy went home. I didn't care about him. Yeah. He just didn't do anything for me. But is it a good season so far? It seems like, from what I can see, everyone's actually really good. Mm-hmm. Like even the people in the middle are like on the higher end of the middle. Yeah. Outside of Andy. I'm feeling it's gonna go in not part in any particular order. Andy, obviously, respectfully. Mm-hmm. Jen. Mm-hmm. And or Elaine next. Yep. And then Danielle. Right. So then it will be Alex Dylan. So Dylan and Danielle Jordan are the same to me. Okay. So then I think the final will be Whitney and Alex. And who am I missing? Anybody? Nobody. I think that those are my, that's my predictions. Okay. Whitney and Alex will be your top two. Yes. Yep. Alrightyy. That's my tea. We'll see how that love that journey for you. I'm so glad it's going well unfolds. What shows are you watching? I did watch the Girl in Cabin 10 on Netflix. Oh yeah? What'd you think? I watched it too. I did read. Oh, you did watch it? I didn't dunno if you read the book. Yeah, I never read read the book did. Oh, okay. So I didn't read the book. So I watched it be, I thought it was good. I thought it was good. It was what I guess, but not what, I guess. At the same time I loved the part Skip It of You haven't seen it when she gets up in front of everyone and she's like, this is your wife though. Yeah. She's saying these aren't her wishes. Yeah. And I, I love that part. I love that it was public. I love the way they did it. I felt bad for the ex-boyfriend. Yes, I did too. That was a bummer. That was very upsetting. That was a bummer. Deeply upsetting. Yeah, I liked it. I just hate gaslighting. Like, I hate watching a thing that I saw with my two eyes and then watching everyone deny it, it drives me nuts. Yeah. So like that aspect, but I'm glad she was right. She was on it. I was getting irritated by her spastic ness. Like when she just goes down to the employees and she's like asking these absurd questions. Yes. Like, what the fuck are you stupid? Well, it's the spiral of I need to prove that I'm right. But the more that I do that, the crazier I look. Yeah. Were you just in the, in the, in my treatment room. Like freaking, like, just fucking relax. Just like take it noted and keep it moving. Like what is, so I was getting, I was getting actively angry watching it. Yeah. They're making you so many Colleen Hoover books and in movies lately. Yes. They are coming out. I dunno if I'm looking forward if I like it or not. So circle back on my opinions on that. And I watched, I started, actually, I think there's only three episodes out for it anyways, but the Murdoch murders, I haven't started it yet. I was a early Murdoch murder listener of Mandy Matinee's podcast. Mm-hmm. And I followed it years ago. Y like before he was even arrested. Yeah. Years and years and years ago. And so to kind of watch it come full circle and know Minnie Maddie and Brittany Snow are friends in real life, and you know, Patricia ake like, it's gonna be incredible. It's so well cast. I just don't know if I can watch it ag. Like I've watched so much of it now. It's like, almost like when the new OJ doc came out, I'm like, I don't know if I have the capacity for anymore to consume more of this terrible fucking story. Yeah. The Murdoch murders is so upsetting. So upsetting from Steven to Mallory Beach. There are so many victims in that fucking story. Yeah. It's unfathomable. They got away with murder for so long, literally and figuratively. uh, yeah, Alec is really good. Like it's, it's on, it's so on par. Yeah. To what I would imagine. Yeah. Because obviously I didn't know him personally. Yeah. I mean, you've seen the videos and the testimonies yeah. It's a brutal story though. Yeah. That's, that's all I've watched. I have no Snapchat, no notes. He gets, he, well, you'll see the dogs. The dogs save the day. Anyway. They robbed the lou in broad daylight. I heard through the grapevine. Okay. Did you see what they did? No, I didn't actually. I didn't. They, they still don't know who did it. Yeah. I mean, who knows? By the time this podcast episode comes out, they rolled up in a truck. Okay. To the Louvre went up a two story ladder, like one of those ladders that goes whoop. They go up to the second floor. This is like 30 minutes after the Louvre opens. They break in with tools into one of the doors. At the end of the hallway, the alarms immediately go off. It's the same wing that the Mona Lisa is in. So think of truly the most, the busiest part of the Louvre. Okay? They steal crown jewels. They're in the crown jewel room. They steal like all these pieces. They run out, they drop a crown on the way out. Bummer, gasp. They get on motorbikes and they got away. The whole thing was done in under 10 minutes in broad fucking daylight, first thing in the morning, and they got nothing. Nothing. And they admit that the loof only has 75% cameras. What do you mean that the room with the crown jewels? What are you talking about? The louv isn't covered in cameras. If there was ever a place to be, listen, I'm not saying stealing is okay. I'm just saying if you break into the Louvre first thing in the morning and you get away with it, you deserve those jewels. That's all I'm saying. No, I agree. Just let'em be at peace at this point. And listen, I love a crime where no one, there are no victims. We love a victimless crime also. Like they're gonna sit on this stuff for a while, but there will come a time where it's either a selling situation, that's the other thing is like the, how do you offload such a specific Yes, and that's why they've always kept an eye on the black market for the pieces stolen in the Isabella Gardner Museum. Yeah, because they're, it's like, how else do you get rid. Of this like mass, these massive, massive pieces. People either wanna sell it or show it off and either party is going to somehow Right. So like how will that, I mean, they're clearly pretty smart though. If they Yeah. Went in the way that they did, they did it in under, I think it was like eight minutes. Yeah. Crazy. That's too quick. Crazy, crazy, crazy. It's too quick. Oh, one other thing. Task. Task is a show on HBO. Okay. It is made by the same people who made mayor of East Town. Did you ever watch Mayor of East Town with Kate Winslet? No. True crime? Maybe I did. I don't know. So good. I don't remember. Very, very similar. I get it confused with something else. Okay. So I don't know if that's the one I'm thinking of or not. So very good. So dark. You would love it. I love dark. You would love it. It's like if Mayor of East Town met the Sons of Anarchy. Ooh. It's a task force created. Okay. By the FBI or the ccia, A insert. It's, it's like in Philadelphia. And they are up against a biker gang. Ooh. And there are rats and there are snitches, morally gray men that are hot. Oh, I love that. That do good things, but also do very bad things. I love men that have a good heart, but do bad things. However, however, spoiler not a spoiler. Just like warning, the producers of the show do not care to kill off anyone you like. So just proceed with caution. No one is safe. That's upsetting. Mark Ruffalo is the lead. I want him to win every single award at the Emmys, and I bet that this TV show will in fact do so. Oh, okay. If you're saying so, also, like, I, I think it'll be a friend runner. Mark Ruffo would, I am, he's perfect. I, I want only good things to happen to Mark Ruffo. He's just such a lovely human being and also an amazing actor. He's just a delight. He a dadda, can't recommend it enough. The weekend before Gretchen's wedding, Gretchen and Kyle's wedding, Paul and I were hanging out and every year she gets one scary movie. She gets one a year and it's always around Halloween. And I go, okay, what's your, what's your vote? And she comes over and she's like, I think we should watch weapons. Weapons is like the biggest scary movie of the year, yeah. Have you seen it? No. I thank God we watched it like 5:00 PM so we could watch something after it. I think the thing that creeps me out, because in a lot of scary movies, there's a lot of really intense music playing that like hypes, you know, hikes up your blood pressure and your heart rate. It's a lot of no music at all in just a camera panning. Interesting. So the premise of the movie. Without giving anything away. Is that It's about a teacher. It's Julia Garner. She's in Ozark. She's fucking credible. She's Anna Delvy. Yep. She's incredible. She's a teacher at an elementary school, middle school, who cares. And she goes to class one day and the entire class is missing except one boy named Alex. Oh, Alex. And overnight these, every single kid in this class disappears. And the movie starts one month after the kids went missing. Okay. And the parents are like, she obviously did it. And she's a drunk. Oh, it's always a drums. And so she's kind of unreliable it and then it goes from there. And Josh Brolin, who I love, is one of the dads of a missing kid, and they're all trying to piece together what the fuck is going on. But she gets very spastic, very Kara knightly of like, I am trying to prove a point I didn't do anything. Yeah. But also is doing insane things to prove her point. Got it. It is fucking wild. Really? Like, I'm glad I, I say terrible. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. I'm glad I watched it. Okay. I will never watch. It's just not, that's just not my vibe. But I am glad I saw it. Okay. I'll give it a whirl. There is something about people running with their arms out. Like remember when we did the episode of when they stormed aliens area 51? Yeah, of course. They're, and they ran head down with the arm. So not the chest down part. Like fully standing stalked straight up with their arms out in a v. Wow. Out to their side, running as fast as humanly possible with their eyes bugging outta their head. I don't like that. No, it's so fucking creepy. But the slow pans with no music and then the like jump. Yeah. Boo. Could puke. Could puke, has a boo. But if that is your jam, if you are a scary movie person, definitely, definitely, definitely recommend I'm into it. Okay. Any other things before we get into our spookiness? No. Nothing. Okay. Do you wanna hear what the tarot card lady said to me? Yes, I do. She passes the cards over to you and you shuffle them and you like put your hands all over them. And then she flips whatever card. Erin was in the room, so she can attest to this. The first card she pulled was the Queen of Pentacles. Okay, you're showing up as the Queen of Pentacles. Grounded, nurturing and self-sufficient. You give deeply love, steadily and create a sense of safety for those around you. Facts, this card often points to someone who's built a strong foundation in their own life and is now ready to share it. It's a reminder that your worth and your stability are your power. You attract love by being centered in yourself, not by chasing it. Personally attacked. I was like, okay. She basically was like, you are a batty and you're self-sufficient. Is that correct? And I was like, it is confirmed. Maybe too much sometimes. Okay, next one she pulls is Ace of Rods. Oh, this signals a new spark or passionate beginning in love readings. This is one of the most electric cards you can pull. It's that instant chemistry, a magnetic attraction or the start of something that feels exciting and alive, whether it's something new entering your, someone new, entering your life, or a current connection. Reigniting it carries major new flame energy. She was like, did you have a fling recently? And I was like, well, I fell asleep on a man a couple weeks ago. Is that the one you were speaking of, Senator? Yes. I was like, well, there was one a couple weeks ago and I fell asleep. Maybe that's the one. Doesn't sound so sparky. Not, yeah. The third one was the King of Cups. Here's the potential partner, energy, someone emotionally intelligent, calm, insincere. The King of Cups isn't flashy. He's emotionally available and stable. He feels deeply, but doesn't get swept away by emotion. If you're already seeing someone, this could be them stepping into a more emotionally open space. If not, it suggests that the next person coming in will offer emotional depth, in real maturity. Someone capable of giving love in a balanced, supportive way that's needed. And she was like, this person is waiting for you. If you accept it, you need to accept it. And I was like, oh. And she was like, you need to accept the energy. Yes. I was like, instead of being like men, I, I hate them. Huh? I Bridget, I know they're awful. Colleen, have you been on the apps recently? No. It's a bmo I'm trying to accept, you know, with that energy. I know, I know. I'm, I'm in my acceptance era. And then the last one she pulled was the 10 of Pentacles. This is the long-term love card, the culmination of security, shared values and lasting partnership. It's about building a future together, home, family legacy and emotional and financial stability. In love readings. It's one of the most positive outcomes. A sign that the connection or the one forming has potential for something real and enduring. And I was like, still grow up, but like, I didn't come in here with like love on the brain. I was just like, no, no one does. Oh my God. She'd said, you know, something about generational wealth could pull the death. Which I was like, what? I, I was like, oh, she's definitely gonna pull whatever the grim, what's the grim? Not the grin, you idiot. The grim. But I was like, oh, for sure someone's gonna die. And she pulls like the fucking long term love card. I'm like, okay, it's lie. So that was my, it was all about love. All four cards were like love in the club. L in the club, L in. And so this is what love, this is what Chad GPT told me the overall message was. Oh, okay. This spread reads like a love story with real staying power. Gosh, you're in a strong, grounded place emotionally and materially. A new or renewed passion is either here or on its way. It's matched with emotional maturity and mutual care. Mm-hmm. And the potential outcome is a committed, stable, and lasting relationship. It's essentially saying you've done the work now, love is coming in both passion and depth, and it's something you can build a future on. That was quite nice. I would agree. Amen to that. Hello, love is right around the corner, so I am accepting the vibes. Do you hear me? I am accept. I mean, be careful who you're yelling to, honestly. So I yelled, she goes, you need to accept the vibes. And I yelled like Michael Scott saying, I declare bankruptcy. Yeah. I read, I accept the vibes. She was like, okay. I go, sorry, I've had an edible. I'm so sorry. It's the gummies kicking in. Sorry, sister. I'm, I'm uncomfortable, so I'm giggling.'cause you're getting like, you're staring into my soul and talking about, about love. Freak me out. I don't feel safe here. What's happening? You're to pull the death card. I'm in the library of a wedding. What the fuck is happening? Anyway, let's talk. Hello, queen Halloween. This is Halloween. Halloween. Halloween. Okay. So Colleen has a story for us today. Before we get into her story, I'm gonna tell you a few Reddit rabbit holes that I went down to down about paranormal activity. I love that. Okay. So it started with me looking up, which of your most convincing paranormal encounters still gives you chills? Mm. First of all, that's my rad. Which, which one? There are multiple and you have to choose one. Are people out here experiencing? Yeah, people are course susceptible. They're more open to it. That's crazy. I find that religious and Catholic people are not as open. Oh, let me explain. Okay, cool. Cool. I have a story about someone who was religious, who had a crazy story. Cool. I was taking care of my aunt's house while she was out of a town a few years ago. It was an old country house, a little creaky and quiet, but nothing seemed strange until about 2:30 AM One night I heard footsteps When I woke up, they were heavy, purposeful footsteps in the hallway outside my door, not just slight creaks right outside my door. The steps stopped, and I thought it was just the house settling in. I was frozen. A sliver of moonlight came through the window enough to dimly illuminate beneath the door, but the hallway light was off. It was then that I saw two shadows of feet thinking that perhaps a neighbor had entered. I called out in no response, just silence. Then slowly the feet turned away and walked down the hallway. I finally mustered the courage to open the door, but the hallway was empty. I checked the locks. They were still bolted from the inside. No signs of entry. No one ever broke in. Nothing was stolen. My aunt later told me that her late husband who passed away in the house always paced up down the hallway when he couldn't sleep. Aw. To this day, I still don't know what I saw, but I've never stayed there again. Hmm. Grandpa's just taken a stroll. Yeah. That wouldn't upset me. I feel like you can tell the difference between the energy if it's a good one or not, if it's good or bad. Yeah. Second story. I graduated high school in 1998 and was dating a girl with all kinds of issues who I should not have been seeing. My mother said if I stayed in a relationship with her, I could not live at home. We lived in a small rural town and my girlfriend's home was several miles away. I decided to live in my car, and in parentheses it says, smart. I know. Okay. Self-awareness is key. While I figured things out, I would park my car at the gate entrance to a field near her home, and sleep there at night walking through some woods and across the field. When I left her house, oh, her two dogs would follow me to the car and then go back home after I was inside, not far into my new setup. One night as I approached my car, I could swear, I could hear the beat of drums, not drum set drumming, but like tribal sounding drums. It was somewhat faint, but it was distinct in the silence of this rural area. Interesting. It was. Then I recalled the stories that I heard in elementary school. It was supposedly a satanic cult in the area. Oh, tea. They had some land at the end of a dead end road, about a mile north of where I was parked. I became instantly scared and climbed into the car quickly. The backseat would fold down and I could fit halfway into the trunk of the car. Come, and that is how I slept for several weeks while I lived there. Ah, pause. Okay. half asleep in your trunk, near your girlfriend's house. This is crazy. Seek help. Every night I could hear the drums. One night the dogs didn't leave my car. Rather, I awoke to them, growling at something, bumping the underside of my vehicle as they moved around beneath me. The final straw came one night after getting into my car. As I sat in the driver's seat preparing to climb into the back, I happened to make out a silhouette against the horizon in the field I had just crossed. It was a human form made of shadow, silhouette against the less dark night sky. Thinking. My girlfriend or her father who didn't know I was out there, the dad didn't. Might have followed me. I turned on my headlights to verify who, and discovered that nobody was in the field. I had enough of that and drove about 10 miles to a parking lot of a rural church and felt better sleeping there. I mean, I would too. Needless to say that relationship did not last, and I moved on to other things. Not long after that, he parked his car elsewhere. He's like, I parked my car in a different field. Almost a year later, I became friends with an older lady who lived nearby. I found out she happened to live on that dead end road where I swore I heard those drum sounds coming from. I asked her one time if she had ever had any strange experiences or any harassment from the cult. At the end of the road, she told me the cult had been gone for about a decade. At that time, they had left before her family even moved onto the street, But she did have odd things happening there. After first moving in. She said that her three daughters would routinely see shadowy figures moving outside between the trees on their property, and also would hear drums. She said this having no idea what happened to him. Yeah, he didn't say anything. She's just, they got to talking about it and she's like, oh yeah, my daughters used to hear these drums. This is fucking crazy. Are you ready for this? Sure. Once she said her youngest daughter, who was four years old at the time, was sitting by the stereo speakers in the living room with her ear up to them. Someone in the family asked her what she was doing, and she said listening. They found it somewhat humorous because the stereo wasn't on, and they asked her what she was listening to. The younger daughter looked at them and replied. They say There is justification in killing your parents. Freaky stuff. That's the next line. Freaky stuff. Exclamation point. I knew then that what I experienced almost a year before was not the cult that had long ago moved away, but something far siner that had remained in the area. Indeed, it's always the rural towns. Imagine a 4-year-old looking to you dead in the eye and going. They say there is justification in killing Yeo. Ex squeeze. I'd move out of the house. Well, I'd move my children out of the house. We can't live here. No. I mean I could live there, but like, oh no. The children cannot. No. Okay, two more. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness, of course, so at a very early age. I knew who Saint was and the demons were cool. I'm no longer one, but attribute some of this story to my knowledge of them, and I don't know how to word this, but because of a young age. Maybe I was more, it's says acceptable to them, but I think susceptible, yeah. My mom and I lived in a small town in Colorado in a trailer. I was maybe 10 years old. My room was at the very end and could see down the hallway into the living room in the kitchen. Okay. I had a teddy ruxbin bear tape player, and I would record TRL Music countdown on Kiss FM onto a tape, and then play the tape using the bear because the recorder speaker was blown. We were dirt poor, so everything that I had was from a yard sale or a thrift shop. Oh, scary. One day at a yard sale, I found this frog porcelain ceramic, maybe figurine that you had put over the eraser of your pencil, so he took it home. Everyone in school had troll dolls and wasn't allowed to, and I wasn't allowed to have them. So I was excited for this frog. After a few hours, I went into my room to listen to music and play Zelda, and then I walked in. The Teddy Ruxbin started playing Alanis Morissette. You ought to know on its own. Okay, great. Pick whoever, whatever demon this is. No, he's a mix. I'm a sym. Mixologist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dj. Is that what you meant? Yes. Yes. Her album was the first cassette music in general I ever bought, but there was no way I'd ever play that song because it had the effort in it and my mom would've taken it away. So I clear, I quickly un velcroed the vest to take the cassette out, but it wasn't in the fucking bear. I thought it was so weird and was more scared. My mom would hear the music. That's so spooky. I put my TRL cassette in and started playing it, and then started playing his Nintendo that night. I had what, to this day, I think was my first nightmare. Maybe I had them prior, but this one I still remember to this day. I'm sorry. This is insane. It was what my idea of what SAT looked like. Similar to Hades and the Disney Hercules movie. Oh, okay. But instead of Blue Flames, they were red and the face was a mix of Hades and the Shadow King and the Marvel Show. Legion. He was driving a convertible car on a highway. I agree. With no trees or malians, but didn't look like a desert at Sunset. Mania. Maniacally laughing. I, that's how I would picture it too. Okay. Pop off. No tails, nothing. Sounds like he's having a great time. Like a Porsche, Corvette situation. A red one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I woke up, immediately, woke up my mom and told her about the dream. I wasn't the kind of kid to cry and sleep with my parents ever. I liked my own space, and to this day, I have no idea why I even told my mom. I always kept the bear on my nightstand because I'd like to listen to music to fall asleep. And when I woke up, the bear was sitting in the hallway in between my room and my mom's room with, its back towards my door in bed as I could see down the hall with my door open. So it was just like facing. That's sickening. She walked right past it. When she came into my room, then going back to bed, she picked it up and brought it into my room and put it on the dresser. Okay, it's on the dresser now. Okay. The following day, we had to go door to door preaching and my mom was, for some reason, telling the car group my nightmare, and one of the women immediately asked if we had purchased anything or brought anything into the house, and sure enough, my frog was on the list. When we got home, the bear was sitting on the couch and not in my room. I don't like that. I would have no reason to play music outside of my room and never took it out there. I remember just walking in and staring at it for a good minute. She immediately asked me for the toy and she threw it away after the toy Frog left the house. I have never had an issue with the bear playing music on its own or nightmares like that ever again. I hid that Alanis cassette every time I was done listening to it and have no idea how it got into that bear. No idea how the bear moved on its own, but for some reason was more scared of the dream is how it ends. So this bear was just playing shit without a cassette in it and moving around this trailer. Because of the porcelain thing? Yeah, because of the porcelain frog that goes on top of your pencil, your eraser. It had a demon. It was a conduit. It must have been. It was. Okay. Last one and then we'll go to your story. Okay. I moved back to town after college and lived in my aunt's extra room. It was just off the side of the kitchen, first couple nights, nothing. Third night at about 11:00 PM my cousins are in bed asleep for school and my aunt is in her room. I distinctly heard a music box Start playing rock. Bye baby. Pause. Is that not the creepiest it, you know an elf when he, he does the Yes. Yeah. That's funny. This is fucking terrifying. And the context is terrible. Imagine just waking up to that. Nope. I remember I one time fell asleep at Erin's house and her old house, the toy room was attached to the living room and something fell in the middle of the night and hit one of Claire's toys that sings. No, I would've, and I woke up in a fucking panic and then I went into the room and one of Danny's Dinos, like the tail swung around and like sw it hit. But to wake up to like a, B, C, I was, I. Nearly shit myself. I nearly shit myself. Okay, back to the story. I got up and looked into the kitchen front room, thinking it was a prank. Nope. All the rooms were vacant. I shrugged it off and I went back to bed. I remember I heard it coming from the front room. The next night, same thing, but this time it was in the kitchen. I peeked around the corner thinking I might see something, but nothing was there. Now I'm getting a little scared. Third night it was at my door. I'm shaking and hid under the covers. A couple days later I approached my aunt and asked if she had a music box that plays Rockabye baby. She pauses and smiled and said, no, but your great grandma did. Oh, that's wholesome. Great grandmama. Stop fucking around. Knock it off. Stop fucking around. Knock it off with your rockabye baby. That's wholesome though. Just like acknowledging, but like send a butterfly. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like Yeah. My mom's has a thing with Penny's. Drop a penny. That's fair. Like, what are we doing? One time we were at a family gathering. I don't know if I've ever told you. Oh God. What? But something flew by and I thought it was like, I don't like moths. So it You don't like moths? I hate moths. And I thought, you don't mind bugs at all. You kill, you've killed like four bugs in this house. It depends. Like a moth flying by me would just like, make me angry. And also my dad would always leave the back light on. And that's how I used to have to enter the house. So when there's lights, moths are attracted. Like I would have to like swat through moths to get into my back door forever, my entire childhood. And I hated it because my dad would always be like, you gotta have the light when I get, I'm like, I don't need the fucking light. I can't. I get with the bugs. Okay. Childhood trauma. So I hate moths. And we were at a gathering and I was just like sent into a tailspin. And as I reached up to swat it and kill it, everyone was like, it's Shannon. Was it a butterfly? Oh my God, I killed it. You killed Shannon. I don't my, it was either, it had to have been, it wasn't Auntie Suzi. Oh God, it wasn't Auntie Suzi. Thank God. Love you Auntie Suzi. I don't feel that way. I, I don't, I love that they feel that way. I love that. That brings them peace. No, I do too, but I didn't, I would never, that's fucking hilarious quality. I was like, does Erin know that story? No, I don't think so. Oh my. And everything is a sign to our aunts and uncles also. Everything. Another thing is we were at Bickford's for for breakfast one day, and my dad and my, my parents made me go and told me all the cousins would be there. And spoiler, they weren't. It was literally me and all the aunts and uncles, which is fine. I was hungover naturally. And someone gave, I think Auntie Susie or your mother a card. The card open in a literal butterfly came out, flew out. Yes. And it like, flew at me and it flew into, I was like, of course it's coming back to, I think I was there. No, I don't think you were her. I swear, did this happen more than once? Which is terrifying that we're just giving each other cards with fucking butterflies flying up. No, probably. But I swear in my life.'cause I remember being like, are you fucking kidding me? Like I no disrespectful hung and uncles hung, but I'm hungover. I live 45 minutes from here. You got me up for breakfast. I haven't been up for breakfast in my entire life. And here I am getting a flying butterfly with butterflies flying in your face. So that's that. I'm screaming. That's amazing. But no, we, I'll tell Erin the whole story. Oh my God. And you killed the butterfly. I think it was at Auntie Donna's house. And they were like, it's Shannon. Yeah. They were like, that resonates. And I was like, with, with who? So what happens if I murdered it? So it did. Do I get bad juju now? Probably. Well, here I am. So, oh yeah. The family loves a sign. Everything's a sign. And like that's totally fine. But like, I didn't realize, you know, I was triggered. You're like, I'm sorry, I have trauma with moths. I thought it was a moth. So I'm like, get the fuck outta here. Am like in the middle of the day. You dang flab it. I was just so upset. Ya dang flab it. What are you fucking 92? A little bit. Yeah. Hey, it's me and boy, do I have a tail for you? My source is quite literally just the Netflix show I watch. I think it's called True Haunting. It's literally like top three on Netflix. You can't miss it. Okay. My sources were Reddit and Chacha. Pt. The best ones there could be. Yep. Okay, let's set the scene. My favorite thing to do, it's February, 1985. Bowling for Soup is popping off. Okay. Love. 1985. We're in upstate New York and it's hella cold, like so cold that it hurts your bones. Type of cold. Yeah. February. Hello. Upstate New York. Woof. Isn't that like. Canada, I don't know. Kind of doesn't matter. We're at a dorm at the state of University of New York at sio, specifically Erie Hall. So it's a big Ooh, beige, ugly as brick building. So close your eyes, close them. Oh, right out. Okay. Yep. Close your eyes. Imagine the smell of like the old radiator heat smell. Oh yeah. With the ticking and then you hear those metal doors that slam a lot louder than they probably should. Uhhuh. And you hear like a weird echoy quiet that's a little too quiet for a place that's like filled with college students. Okay, got it. It's giving mildew. Okay. Yes. And that's where we are. Okay, cool. Imagined I'm there and we're dial in and there's this guy, his name is Chris Deery. He's giving main character, energy of this tale. Okay, great. He's a sophomore at this college. I think they call it suny, but like I just think that's such an ugly name. So just like the State University of New York instead. Okay. Okay. Just, but suny, he is a regular student. He's on scholarship. He's a track athlete. He's a star runner. He is. He's actually just the textbook definition of a sweet baby angel. Okay. Like he just has a face. He's a runner. He's a track star. He's not runner. He's a track star. He's fast. He gonna have to run for his life in this tail. Oh no, I'm just kidding. He's not gonna, so in our sweet baby angel, Chris, he has no idea. But he's about to check his ass into what's to become one of the most infamous haunted dorm rooms in New York. Mm. And to be clear, Chris is not some like ghost hunter. He's not like chasing clout. He's not even into the supernatural. He's very like fact over fiction. He's science over everything. Very logical. Yeah. Just like a logical lad. He doesn't, it's the 1980s. There's no fucking YouTube. There's no TikTok. There's no, he's just trying to go to college. He's just like, I, I'm trying to run. Yeah, he's trying to pass his classes. Yeah. Not freeze to death. Right. Go to the dining hall, have a beer with his pals and run his last through town. I love that for him. But what happens? In the room. C two, D one. Oh, at Erie Hall. We may never know. It's the stuff of off-campus legend. Oh wow. This is the Erie Hall haunting. And you're like sophomore, so you're 19 or 20. Yeah, most likely. Most likely. So we're in's dorm room C 2D one is your typical ugly ass dorm room, concrete walls, one singular window that lets in essentially no light, the kind of place that feels off before you even hang your posters and meet your roommate and all those things. Yeah. The vibes are, the vibes are giving West Orange, New Jersey, maybe worse. My freshman dorm was a prison cell. Ivy Tell actually came to pick me up when your dad died, actually. And Oh, that was nice of her. And she was like, oh. And I was like, no. Yeah, it's bad. It's fucking bad. So we toured colleges for Erin and Erin went to, you know, very nice colleges because she's super smart. And I was like, what? And so we, we are in the car I was asleep. Naturally. And I have been awoken, and when I opened my eyes, I thought my parents were taking us on the tour of a prison. Like I thought Carolyn was having a probation officer moment of like, if you don't pay attention in college, this is where you could end up kind of thing. Yeah. Like a, like a life lesson. Like one of those scared straight programs, right? Yeah. And I woke up and I was like, you guys, we really don't have to go see a prison. And they were like, this is UMass Darmouth. Oh my God, it looks exactly like a prison. And UMass Dartmouth, the same guy who built that built my high school. And I was like, yeah, that tracks, that's tea that they're actually redoing the high school. But I was like, this, it's also where my dad went. So he was like, thanks. And I was like, I'm, I'm so sorry. I actually didn't know that. But if you went to sleep and you woke up in front of UMass Dartmouth, you would, you would go like, why stay penitent rate, what have I done to deserve this? I have not committed any crimes. People pay to go there. Yeah. It's crazy. They got a good nursing program, I will say. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Case you want to know he gets into his room. He has a roommate, his name is Paul. Paul's fine. Okay. Paul. They end up building like a bunk bed situation in their dorm room so they can have more room for activities. I was just gonna say that, like very stepbrothers. Yes, they have. And their dorm becomes like the place to be. Okay. Oh, fun. Yeah. They have like a wicked quick friend group, like close-knit. Oh wow. Everyone's hanging out. Every, that's just the place they even put a little couch in there, like, oh, cute. Oh, it was their humble a bird. Yeah, it was, it really was. And everything was totally normal in sleigh for about a week. Oh God. It starts with something super small. He doesn't mention it to anybody. He keeps a lot of this to himself for quite some time. You'll find he is sitting at his desk doing homework, mining his goddamn business, and he has some heavy metal blasting in his headphones, which is crazy for him. Honestly, if you look at him, you'd never think he was a heavy metal person. And out of nowhere, he just hears his name. Chris, he riffs the headphones off and nothing. It pauses at class. The door's locked, question mark, WTF. So he is like, oh, maybe it was the music. Maybe he imagined it, and then it happens again and again. And the weird part is, is that it's not coming from anywhere. It's not muffled like someone's yelling in the hall or trying to get through the door. It's literally right next to his ear. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. So he's like, whatever continues with his homework, he starts losing sleep. And then every night it's a little louder, it's a little clearer. It's just. His head sometimes it sounds like it's calling from the closet. Sometimes it's, oh wait, he's so cute. Did you look him up? Isn't he so fucking cute? Oh my God, he's so sweet. He's like very all American boy. It's so upsetting. He's so cute. Sometimes it sounds like it's calling from his closet and then sometimes it's the radiator and sometimes, oh God. It's quite literally behind his head. And it's whispering. Yes, it's whispering his name. And you know that feeling when someone's staring at you, but you can't see them. Yeah. You can feel it. The, the hair on the back of your neck stands up. You can feel it like someone next me, but I can't see them. Oh, that's how he felt all the time in his room. Oh, oh, no. So he starts to feel a little crazy. Right. It feels a little insane. Well, as you know, those logical people go, if I can't see it, it's not real. I can experience, you know, I'm experiencing this thing and there's no rhyme or reason for it. Yeah. That would drive anyone insane. Yeah. And he is like, you know, maybe it's just he's trying to like figure out reasonable, logical explanations for it. Yeah. So it's like, oh, I'm outta my element. This isn't my home. Maybe it's just like Yeah. Making excuses of what it could be. Yeah. Yeah. And he starts to feel insane, you know? He's logical and he's booked a busy, so he kind of ignores it. Like he's running, he's doing his classes, he's gotta keep his grades up. He's on scholarship. All the things. Yeah. He is good shit to do. So, funny enough, right at the beginning of the semester, Chris and Paul go to a lecture, oh no, sorry. Chris and his friend Jeff go to a lecture on campus and guess who's speaking? Who? Ed and Lorraine Warren. Oh, right. So the Warrens like Amityville Horror, Annabel conjuring those fucking Warrens. Oh. And so the irony of that, and he's in Erie Hall. Yeah, that's the name of the holidays living in. Yeah, it's Erie. Yeah. Like 15 miles on the Erie kind of. We had to sing that song. I'm assuming it's like Erie, one of the Great Lakes. Yes. And not Erie Spooky. No. Yeah, it's not. But when you first said Erie, I'm like, the story sounds eerie. Yeah. No, no, no. It's just like the irony. Coincidence. Okay. Okay. Hearing from the Amityville people must be fucking insane. Yes. So for those of you that don't know at Lorraine Warren, if you've seen the movies, you know that like part of their thing when they weren't like working cases is that they went around and did lectures at colleges, right? Like that was their thing. Right? So this was one of the schools that they went to and did that at the same time. And also they are, a lot of people think they're like. Poops and they're crazy. Yeah. It's whatever. He just happened to just go. It's not like he was like fascinated by this shit and like needed to seek them out. So they start showing recordings of like ghost voices, like EVPs that they've picked up over the years, like as part of their, their thing. And for all people that don't know this'cause people are normal and I'm not normal. So, you know, you probably don't know what it's, take that with a grain of salt. It's like those crackly little snippets of sound that sounds like someone whispering through a storm, but it's very high pitched clo What would be a closeup of a sound, if that makes any sense. So if you record this room, an EVP is like, what is that? Times like a thousand decibels in depth. Like things you can't hear. Oh. To the naked ear. Is this what the ghost hunters do? Yes. Where they go into a room and turn that thing up? Yeah. But they listen to it later. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that Yeah, it's like the, it's like, it's like zooming in to a sound. Yes. Does that make sense? That's makes total sense, Colleen. Cool. But the part where it gets eerie funny the lecture ends and him and Jeff are like, oh my God, we gotta meet them. This is so cool. Like, everyone goes up and they kinda like do a little meet and greet. Like that's the thing. Jeff shakes, Lorraine's hand, and then they keep it moving and then Chris approaches and she freezes like completely dead stares at him. And for those of you who are also unfamiliar, Lorraine is very intuitive. Like she feels and senses and sees things that most people don't like. She has a sense right off the bat, he Ed is very like her backup and she's always the one that enters like the houses and specs and gets a good feel for what's going on. She sees a lot of a lot of shit. So it's almost like she has a six sense Gas. Gas. So she immediately, she freezes and says, I'm not shaking your hand. Oh, abrupt. And she looks at Ed. And you know, they have like, they're obviously a married couple and in the movies, if you've seen the movies, this makes sense. He immediately takes him off stage and is like, get away from my wife. Like it is just like a He's on it. Yeah, ed Ed is not fucking around. No, he's not fucking around. He's like, something's not right. And she gave me the look and you're fucking outta here. Right? And instead of Sweet Chris is like, yeah, he's embarrassed. No, he's embarrassed. It's so upsetting. So he's like, okay, well now I'm like, now I really like if there was ever like a thought of him saying something to them, which was not even like on his radar now, he definitely wasn't fucking gonna and he's like, do I smell? Like, what the fuck? Why did they, why did she, oh, I would be mortified. Oh yeah. He didn't even think anything like of it. Like, he wasn't like, oh, maybe she felt like it was not even on his radar. Oh, he wasn't like, this is attached to the room. He's like, I did something wrong. Oh no. He's like, what the fuck? That was so weird. But he's more or less like embarrassed, like, oh, did you not like me? Like, what did I do? Boy. Yeah. So now, so that was in February. Now it's March. And things are the weird things that were happening before now happening constantly. The radiator clanking, even when it's off. The door handle rattles, like someone's trying to get in textbooks, slide off the desk. His posters are just ripped right down overnight. Like just all the shit that you can imagine happens in any sort of standard scary movie. Right. But it's not just him anymore. So his roommate Paul, starts waking up with cold drafts on his face, even when the windows are completely locked. So he knows he's not crazy, but it's so minimal that he's kind of just like disregarding everything. Right. He's just like, it's what, like it's not bothering me if it's something, it's not that big of a deal. But then over the next couple weeks, the sounds and they start to turn into like whole ass apparitions. So to the point where, oh my God. Yeah. One night. At one point, well he says in the documentary, he says, I thought I'm losing my mind. I couldn't tell if what I was seeing or hearing was true. I didn't know if it was reality or if I'm asleep or if I'm just caught up in this never ending nightmare. I couldn't quite figure out, like, it was basically like all of his days and nights were turning into one and he felt like he was quite literally not living real life. Oh my God. What a scary feeling. Yeah. In the documentary, they do like a, what's the word I'm looking for? Like a recreation, like a ization, whatever the fucking word is. Yeah. Yeah. And basically what it was is on their bunk, their lofted bunk bed that they had there was, they woke up and each one of them saw what would be like, just like a shadowy figure in front of them. And that was like the, the, the straw for them. Like, that was the first time it was ever like something more than just a sound. And they both saw it. So it wasn't like Chris was like, I had been seeing all this shit this whole time and I didn't say a word even to him. And so for him to see it, it made me, it was like reassuring.'cause I'm like, I'm not crazy. Like it wasn't, yeah. I was just gonna say when you were like, other people started to experience it, a part of me is like, good. Yeah. Just for Chris, because it's like, oh, do you have schizophrenia? Yeah. No. To be the only one in an entire dorm. That's so upsetting. Yeah. Not that I want other people to suffer, but it might, it might be nice. Yeah. And there's so many stories of like, people having really like negative experiences, especially going away to college. Like things happen to them.'cause it's just like they're outta their element. Right. And I can totally understand. Shaking some stuff off. Yeah. And just being like, listen, this is a new place. Who, I don't know if he's from that area. I don't know either. I actually do you know what I mean? Like, maybe, maybe you're outta state. Don't, I think he's from relatively close.'cause there is a point where his dad comes to visit and he just drives. So like, I don't think he's Okay. So driving ish distance. But that upstate New York, that could be five hours. Yeah. You never know. You know what I mean? So I do understand shaking some of that off and being like, oh, I'm outta my, my element. I'm in a new place. Yeah, that's fair. So I'm assuming that's probably what he thought was like happening to him, whatever. And then one night, so they've had the apparition experience, kind of brushed it off one night. They hear a scratching sound in the middle of the night, like nails dragging across plaster. They flip on the light and there are marks long, fresh marks on the wall of nails. No, no. Colleen Paul moves out at immediately. Immediately move out. Paul's like, sorry, gotta go. Not the time, not the place. Not, yeah. Not happening. But poker Chris is now alone. Chris should move O2. Respectfully. I would be outta there so fast. He even says, up until that point, no one could see it but me and I didn't know how to live with it. Okay. But he, oh, so he hasn't told anyone.'cause I'm gonna say, what is the RA saying? Does, is there something that's happened in the past? Have they have RAs? But you know what I mean? There's gotta be, if this is a thing that has happened, there's gotta be someone who's complained. But he's a sweet, shy all American boy. I know. But you can't keep shit like that to yourself. That's crazy. We're getting outta hand now. We gotta talk to somebody. We gotta, well now let's talk about Jeff now. Okay. Okay. Jeff's best. Okay. Let's talk about Jeff. Jeff has a really good friend during this time. His name's Jeff. Chris has a really good friend. Yeah. Sorry, what did I say? Jeff has a really good friend named Jeff. No, but I, I'm with you. So Chris's best friend is Jeff. Jeff, yeah. Chris's best friend is Jeff. Shout out to Jeff. We ride at John for Jeff. Okay. We love Jeff. He is a sweet baby angel. He listens to him, makes him feel, you know, validates him, makes him feel less crazy except Jeff. One time he does kind of piss me off because it's like he wants to investigate it a little bit. Like he wants to document everything. He wants to antagonize what's going on. Like, oh, I appreciate him wanting to get to the bottom of it, but like, just like, let Chris sleep in your bed and like be a good friend. And like, let's not, but also like kind of appreciate the fact that he like was like, no, let's look into this.'cause it's like a thing. But Chris doesn't want to, Chris is like, can we, can I just run and go to class? Yeah. Can we just get some help? Can I move and just keep on running? Yeah. And he says like, please don't tell anybody. I don't want people to think I'm crazy, like I'm telling you in confidence. Oh. Like, just help your brother out. However, Jeff obviously in their quote unquote investigations, he does start to mention things. We have this really close fr knit friend group, so he does mention something to some people, but they also say that they like, you know, they feel things and they see things too. They hang out in that room all the time. Like they're always like, yeah, the air fix sometimes that's what I mean. Someone has to have a complaint. Yeah. So they're like, okay, validated. But Chris at one point like gets pissed at. Jeff is like telling people, he's like, stop it, stop it. Oh, Chris, honey, we gotta, we gotta talk to some people about this. I know Jeff's fully dialed in at this point. He convinces Chris to quote, unquote call the ghost, and there's pictures of it if you look him up. I'm sure it's the first one that popped up. And he's quite literally in their dorm room, putting his arms up to in quote unquote invite the ghost in. And when they do this, they, the closet door completely opens. Yeah. Do you see it? Yeah. This, yeah. And it, they see a face in the closet door. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Yeah. And seeing the reaction, he, Jeff took a photo of the closet but didn't capture anything but. He, I think he took another photo of like above the bed? Yeah, above the bed. And you can see his, you know, Chris's arms out and back in the eighties you had to go and like, get the pictures developed so they didn't see it right away. And then they went and got them developed. And you can see in the top upright corner is a set of, if you look closely, what would be like a rib cage in bones? No, no. There's like a, a, a human body in the background. Very lightly. Yeah. And he, you know, Jeff is like, I can label those bones that is clear as day a skeletal piece to me. Like I could label those to you. I'm not, well, I'm, I'm really not. Well, this would be my nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. He's literally underneath his bunk bed in that photo. Oh my God. And he, so he's holding his arms out guys in front of him, almost like, I'm sure the power of Chris compels up and was like, how do you invite them in? And I'm sure he was like, okay, like, let me open my arms, like. Literally a priest on Sunday at Cal in Catholic church being like, oh, mustard. Yes, yes. Yeah, of course you would have a Catholic reference. That's what Chris is doing. Oh, did I tell you? Someone said, I immigrant message day. I forget who it was. Someone said may peace be with you or something. And someone responded and said and also with you, and I said FYI in 2011, they changed it to and with your spirit. It was the first time I went and they switched it on me. I felt so betrayed. Yeah, no. Brianna was like, wait, I missed the memo. I didn't know that. And I actually happened in 2011 and the Catholics were quaking. I'm still pissed about it. I was just like, why? If it ain't broke, don't change it. What's the point? And it's such a knee jerk reaction too. Yeah. So when it gets asked. When the comment gets made in church, it's, it just comes out of my mouth and every time I'm like, well fucking wrong again. Let's run it back. Yeah. Another thing I have to feel guilty about for no goddamn reason, thanks for, why are we deciphering the Bible and like revamping it, like we haven't done that to Shakespeare. Who gives a fuck? Like whatever the Bible is old as fuck. Let it be. Let it be old. Let it, we get it. We get the point. Do you know what the Bible does? And do a lot change and neither should we. Hallelujah. Anyway, so after that picture incident, they start to write everything down. The times the sounds, how cold the air feels, their full ass studying this room. Wow. He borrows a tape recorder and they try to capture any voices that they possibly can much too because of they were inspired by at a Lorraine, quite literally one time they record something and they play it back and there's some static, but if you listen really quickly, you can hear a single word, and it's the word Tommy. But also they're kind of like, are we hearing that or are we just making that up? So they kind of lean into it and they're like, yeah, let's just start calling him Tommy and go from there. Like essentially. Great. So even though the events at this point are low key, right? I mean, they're seeing the apparition, that's not great. But Chris is, wellness is not doing great. Like he's sleeping on Jeff's floor. His grades are dropping, he's losing his scholarship, he's having nightmares. Oh no, he's sleeping in the common room sometimes. It's very upsetting. Like, he's really not doing okay. Someone get him a new fucking room. I know. But j Jeff's such a good man. He's a good man. We write it down for Jeff. I know he has that. Jeff and Chris, and they interviewed like, like Paul came back for the, in the documentary, and he was like, I wish I, I wish I stayed. And I wish I believed him when he talked about things. I was kind of telling him to get over it. Like, yeah, it was very upsetting. Well, I don't know how this ends, so it's, it's fine. Oh, okay. Don't worry. Oh, Chris doesn't know at the moment when he thinks things are bad, but things are about to get a little violent. A little violent. It's March of 1995, so February, so this all happens over like three months span. He's in the shower and he is, for lack of a better word, attacked in the shower. Sorry. Yeah. So he's like thrown to the wall, like someone is pushing him in the shower. And so he just yells out like, who are you? Are you God? Are you the devil? Can you just show yourself to me, essentially? And he gets slashed and he just hits the foreign pain and he screams. He just, he, he just laid there and he screamed. And Jeff heard him from down the hall, immediately knew it was him. Oh, Jeff comes running and he has so scary, a set of three claw marks down his back. You literally couldn't do that to yourself. There was no one else in the bathroom. Oh my. And he's bleeding. Yeah, he's bleeding enough to be like on the ground blood. So Jeff picks him up and him and his friends, they clean him up and they compose him and they like calm him down. And you know, they. All are on the same page. They're all feeling like a little immense amount of fear. I would say they had two. There's two other girly pops that are on the documentary. One of them over this two month span, I think it was before he was attacked both of these instances. One was they were all hanging out in the room and one of the friends was like, oh yeah, let's go out to the bar. Like, let me go change. And she went back to her room and she took too long. They all were like, where the fuck did she go? So they go to go check on her, and she had been in her room and something happened to her and she can't remember, and they found her fully unconscious and she was like, someone was holding me down. That was one. The other one, there's a picture of it, but I literally can't find it on the internet. You'll have to watch the Netflix doc. But they were all hanging out and they had left the room. One of the girly pops was still on the couch in their room and someone was holding her down. And so she yelled for help and she was like, guys, and they come back and you can see they took a picture instead of helping her. They were like, everybody freeze. Like we are actively investigating this. Right. And they took a picture and you can see it being like someone like her face and her and someone pushing her down. So it's like not only just him, which is Oh my fucking God. Yeah, yeah. Imagine getting held down by just like an unforeseen force, invisible entity. No, simply not in trying to explain that to campus police. No. I'm pretty sure there Who gave me a ticket every day. Yeah. They're not real. Did you know that? Do you know how many I had? Colleen? I simply don't wanna know. No, they, they're not real. They're campus police. They can't do anything. Crime. You have to pay your tickets though. No, you don't. Not not campus. You don't have to. They don't go on your license. They're not, they're nowhere. I think they held stuff back from us if we didn't pay them. That's fair. Yeah. Like if we had a balance we couldn't do, I don't think we could graduate or something like that. Drama please. Such bullshit. Pull loose. We're all paying thou hundreds of thousands of dollars to be here. Shut the fuck up. You're saying that as past tense? Mine's current. Yeah. That's that's fair. That's totally fair. So that was like it for him. He doesn't know where to seek help from. I think there was something about, it wasn't in the doc, but I actually saw it online that in like a People magazine article and it said something about like, they did call campus police, but they're also like, what the fuck are we supposed to, like what? There's no one, you know, there's no logical, how are you supposed to as a police officer who's all about logic, bad guys, criminals. There's no, what am I supposed to do for you? You know what I mean? Yeah. So he goes to a priest. He was raised religious. Okay? So he thought, where else do you seek peace and solace? Then talk about the power of Christ compels you. What? What does the priest do? He goes, your priest. So Father Charles Manning. Mm-hmm. He does make an appearance in the docu, the docu the document, document Jesus Christ going the documentary. And he felt he sweep of angel. Chris went to him and he said, I felt the need to help him. Like he just came to me and I found within my priesthood that I needed to help this sweet baby angel and'cause Chris cries. And he's like, I don't know what to do. It's very upsetting. Oh my God, this poor kid. So he says, okay, time and place, I'll meet you at your dorm room. And he brought Holy water in a book called The Pastoral Care of the Sick. And he recalled the minute he walked in that the room turned unusually cold. And he did feel presence. Not necessarily evil, not necessarily good, but he felt a presence. And so he does the prayer for the sick and they both actively could feel the room start to warm up. Like if something was being flushed out. And Chris recalls that he was praying and when he felt the the room warming, he said, wow, this might have worked. And he recalled feeling a little different the next couple days. I felt like the blessing had protected me, like whatever it was, couldn't get me anymore and I was separated from it. Oh good. So he calls his dad. His dad's his best friend, his biggest supporter. He runs with him. They're all about the running. They are, but he was, didn't wanna tell him.'cause I think they're more like, again, he is himself, Chris is a person of logic. He is sensible. So his dad is obviously that times 10. Like he taught him to be that way. Right. So he's like, I'm not gonna tell my dad all this stuff he's gonna think I've been saying and like maybe send me home. Like I'm just not gonna talk. He doesn't wanna worry him. And Yeah. Yeah. So his dad shows up, he said, I heard his voice and I just didn't, I said, whatever it is, I'll be there. So he gets in his car and he drives. Oh, and he takes one look at Chris and he's obviously looking withered. Yeah. He's not sleeping. He's your boy's withered. Yeah, he's been here some shit. So he said, you know what, you're not sleeping. You're gonna sleep tonight. So we put him in his bed and he sat in the chair next to him and said, go to sleep. And the next morning Chris had said, you know, he didn't say anything to me, but I knew he, he sense he knew he saw something. And the dad had said like, there was a phase in the night where he felt like he felt fear. He was just sitting there. So it was like it was, I forget how he worded it. You guys would just have to watch it, but just know he sent something or felt something and it was like, I acknowledge that something's not correct. Again, not good, but I'm not mad that he continues to get. Validation. Yeah. From others, from outside sources who have no skin in the game. Feeling crazy is like probably the worst feeling on the game. The worst. That's what I mean. The gas, I hate the gas lighting. Mm-hmm. And people being like, what are you talking about? Not that anyone's doing that to him, but you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. So they wake up and they do what they do best to clear their heads, which they run. They go for a run. They go for a run. So they do a run near campus and the both of them discover on their run. They, I think one of'em trips over it. A memorial in the middle of the woods for this guy, Sergeant Parker Boyd. I don't know what caused Jeff and or Chris to do this research, but they learn that the plaque that they had tripped over was dedicated to a combination of a few different people in the Revolutionary Ward, the Revolutionary War, including Lieutenant Thomas Boyd, whose nickname was Tommy. Huh. Oh my God. They piece history together and they learned that Lieutenant Thomas Boyd was tortured during the Revolutionary, revolutionary War on the same tree that Chris ran by daily on his run. So the background on it, there's like this whole list of like things that they did to this man. It's actually volatile. It was during the revolutionary. Yeah. It, it's disgusting. Like they left this man there for dead for days. Oh my God. Like time tree. They slip. It's hard. No. Like a lot of things that I like rip. We don't have to an go into it's situation. It's not right. Oh my God. Oh my God. No. Yeah. No. So coincidence. Okay. Maybe Sure. In the documentary, they obviously Jeff takes this and is like, he's trying to reach out to you for like someone to acknowledge the pain and the torture he experienced. Like Tommy's real blah, blah, blah, whatever. And in the end of episode three of the documentary. Chris said, I obviously like made peace with that. And then there was one more discovery that changed everything for me that made me rethink everything that Jeff was saying. So I think it was him or his dad, they were reading old family journals. Think like, oh, he didn't watch Vampire Diaries, but they read like these? Yes, they did. Oh, like the old Lockwood journals, like from back in the day when they read all the shit, it's like that. So he is reading his old family journals, like for whatever reason they're like in the attic and they read an entry from one of Chris's mother's ancestors, like great, great, great. They wrote about torturing, no, coming across the body of Lieutenant Boyd. He did. His mother's ancestors discovered the body. No, it was the first, and I don't, he obviously wasn't alive, but they were the first to discover what had happened to him. No, I have chills. Yeah. What are the odds of that? She reported it. She was the one that called, I know who the police were in the, during the revolutionary times. Right, but called the, the, what are the fucking odds of that? Yeah. So. Chris said, I think that was him. He felt a connection to me and felt the need that his story needed to be told. And he, that was him. That was, or it was the spirit of whoever did that to him. I don't know. But he was like, there's a connection there, and like that just can't be. And it was like way after they discovered that. So was it just connected? Is it an Rie coincidence that the ghost was named Tommy or what? Who knows? And after a while, everything goes quiet. I think whatever the priest did really helped Chris moves into another dorm. The spots, the cold spots disappear. The whisper stop. But he still has dreams about the voice and has nightmares every once in a while about what happened to him. Obviously the story spreads. The gossip is the tea is hot in college. Oh, piping. Imagine the Goss. Erie Hall becomes the quote unquote haunted dorm students dare each other. Quote on quote, straight up, fucking haunted, confirmed. And also, there are people that had stayed in that dorm before and that didn't have a problem. It was Chris. It was Chris. It was Chris. And the fact that they shared a bloodline, I, I don't know. And maybe like running by the grave every. Sensing he Wow. Followed him back to campus. Yeah. Also, if him and his dad didn't trip over the memorial, it was like under leaves. It's in the middle of the fucking woods. Like not in a, there's not like a statue. It's literally in the ground. That's fucking crazy. Right. Someone get that boy a new room. He did. He got a new room. Okay. He's all set. God bless. He got a new room. Everything stops. Everything's back normal. God bless. He graduates. He's fine. Chris is well, he's he's all right. He's all right. He's good. From then on, students are consistently like daring each other. Like, go spend the night in C 2D one. It's crazy. Some people say they still hear the scratching behind the radiator. Others claim they get their name whispered when they're alone, which is blasphemy. If you ask me, Tommy ain't wanna talk to you, he don't wanna talk to you. I was gonna say it's giving clout. Yeah. No, it's, it's giving. I wanna be part of the goss. Yeah, it is. And it's just bullshit. But I'm telling, let it go. Maintenance workers even report that the door to that room randomly locks itself from the inside. Tommy just wants some fucking peace, I think. I think we need to leave Tommy alone. I agree. He did. He's been through that. Let Tommy rest. Yeah. Decades later, Chris then writes a book about it. It's called Surviving Evidence, and it gets picked up by paranormal investigators. And eventually, obviously Netflix made it into true haunting, the Erie Hall case, to which I watched. And obviously there's no solid proof of this. There's no video, no police reports. There's the photo, do it that what you will. But his story hasn't changed in over 40 years. He quite literally cries in the documentary. You're talking about it. Like, I think let the, give the man a break. Do not tell him he's, it's Blas me, whatever. And there were a lot of witnesses. It wasn't, and they're all in the Johnny Series. Just him. They're all in it. Yeah, that's, yep. That's, there's too many things. Too many. The fact that the name was Tommy the Bloodline, the journal, I mean, it is straight out of a scary movie. Yeah. Like if it was written in a scary movie, you'd be like, okay, that's too much. Yeah. Too on the nose. No, no. Too much. Too much. But do with that, what you will take with that, what you will as well. Wow. And that is the story of the Eerie Hall. The Eerie Haunting Eerie Hall. I justice as for Chris, Chris and Jeff. Paul had the right idea though. Like I'm glad, I know he probably feels some regret later on, but yeah, I'd be like, fuck it. Deuces. Yeah. I think Paul, at one point I just wanna sleep and peace. Like for the love of God, why someone watching me in my sleep? This is your fucking fault. Yeah, exactly. I think at one point Paul like even says that he kind of took the logical way and was like they were in the bathroom and like obviously Chris was going through it and he like looked at him and was like, just figure it the fuck out. Like whatever internal demon you have going on, like just get above it. But it's like, no, it's not. He doesn't, he's not having an internal battle. He's getting taunted in his sleep by a spirit. I was gonna say, and it sounds like he was a pretty uncomplicated person. Yeah. Like he just wanted to go to school. They didn't know that, you know what I mean? He's not a troubled kid who you're like, oh, maybe he's battling some enter dams and they're now. Outside his brain and they're like, but he was like, thought he was crazy. He's like, oh, do I have entertainment inside? Yeah. Like what? Now I do question mark. Yeah. My cuckoo bananas. But yeah. Wow. And that's that. Very well done. Thank you. It was a really good doc. I was sparked by it. I may watch it question mark that I know all the spoilers. That's, you'll be fine. It's good. Okay, cool. I have a few cheeky little stories to just lighten the mood a little bit. I love cheeky stories. Asked chat, GPT about the spookiest places in Boston. And so the George Parkman house, this is what it says, on a crisp, November morning in 1849, Dr. George Parkman, a respected Boston physician, embarked on his usual walk to Harvard Med Medical School. Ooh. But that day he vanished without a trace. Oh. Days later his. Dismembered remains were discovered in the lab of Dr. John White Webster, a Harvard professor. The murder shocked the city and became one of the most sensational trials of the 19th century. I've never heard of this. No, I've never heard of that either. Though the crime occurred elsewhere. Parkmans former resident ate Walnut Street in Beacon Hill is believed to be haunted by his restless spirit. Residents and staff have reported eerie footsteps, flickering lights, and unsettling presence that sends chills down the spine. Could it be George Park Parkman still seeking justice from beyond the grave? Mm-hmm. We'll never know. I think it is. He just wants to say hi. He just wants to be like, Hey, I was dismembered and that's super fucked to tell my story. Can I tell you something So upsetting. I mean, sure. I mean it's really, if you'd like, it's been on my brain a lot and I just need to Okay. I obviously like think that there is somewhere after this. There has to be Mm one because of all these things that have obviously occurred. And also just like for peace of mind, who the fuck does wanna believe you have somewhere else to go, whether it be up or down and, and I'm going down, taking the elevator down. It's gonna be a hot one, an express trip One-way ticket ha way to hell. But I was talking to man, I randomly asked mans that one day and it, he was raised like Catholic like us, but yeah. Like did the commun like communion. Jesus Christ. He did all the same things that we did. Yeah. And he was like, no, I don't, I don't think there's anything I, I really like, do you think it's just over? I just think it's dark. And he said, yeah, I just think that's it. You go sleep. I don't know why, I've just never heard someone say it's a matter of factly and not in like a way that's like. I'm like an atheist and there's nothing, you know what I mean? It was just like, yeah. He didn't mean it be condescending. He was like, viol. I cried. I literally was like, why is that so upsetting to me that you just genuinely think that when this is done, we're done? Yeah. Isn't that upsetting? I think anytime I think that way, if my brain goes that way, yeah. I'm like, but I won't know it's done. Yeah. I won't be cognizant of it. That's fair. It'll just be over. Yeah. I like the idea of like, you can still see things and watch things and be around. Oh, yeah. And be with your, your lost family members and I don't croak and see, the first thing I see is isn't Spencer, I, what's the point? Just I have a list of people. No, I do too, but like, yeah. Yeah. First things first. No, you're, come on. You're Spencer's your, let's get this over with your son. I would like to think I'm a rational person of the two of us. When we tell these types of stories, I'm pretty like, no, that's just not, yeah, I'm not as woo woo loosey goosey, but I am leaning more towards the woowoo and let me explain why. I do believe in like the universe. I know that sounds really silly and very generic, but something is happening. And I truly believe if you put things, good things out, good things will come back. Not all the time and bad things happen to good people all the time, but I, I believe in energy, in putting good energy in good vibes wherever you go. I may have shared this story on the podcast, so excuse me if you've already heard this, but I would say the one completely unexplainable thing that had happened to me was ironically had to do with my. Registration for my car on campus and I kept getting tickets. It all comes full circle as one does. And when I drove to college my sophomore year, Shannon had passed away two months before. Not even, it was the, she passed away. We got into the accident July 3rd. I was at college on like August 28th. And I was a wreck obviously. And there were a lot of discussions about me not going or taking a semester off. And my parents and I decided it was better if I just go and be with my friends and just keep on continuing life the best of my ability. so I go and I remember specifically driving at college and I had my car and my parents were driving behind me.'cause my, there, our cars were packed with all my stuff, right? And I remember my registration being on the top of a pile, like I remember it clear as day and after we unpacked everything, I went to go get my sticker and you need your license and your car registration. And I couldn't find my registration everywhere. So for the next two months, I am getting tickets all of the time, and I just do not have the strength to go to the DMV or like order a new registration, and this was not back in the day. Where you could just like order it online and it would show up like this is a while ago. And so I kept my job at home at a local restaurant that I worked at for a lot of my life. And on my drive home, my, I stop at home at my parents' house, which was right down the street from the restaurant. And there like, you lost it. And I'm like, I am telling you right now, I swear to you. And I used to lose everything so I get where their vibes were coming from naturally. But I was like, I am, I swear to you on every single thing in my life, I did not lose this registration. It was on top of the pile. I kept it there. So it was easy to find. I do not know where it went. So I go to work and when I'm at work, my dad shows up and he's like, can I just check your car? Can you just give me your keys and I'm gonna go check your car? And I'm like, go for it. I would love for someone to confirm that it's not in the fucking car, so you guys can leave me alone and I can get a fucking new registration. So. Also keep in mind I am like a, a wreck. I'm like not a functioning human, not well. So a lot of their concern was valid. And so he comes back into the restaurant 20 minutes later, he goes, I searched that car from top to bottom. I did not, there is not a part of that car. I have not seen, it is not in there. And I was kind of relieved. Yeah. Like, thank you on my every day of like, exactly this whole thing of what we've been saying, this whole episode of like, thank you for confirming the thing that I've been saying that no one has believed me. So at the end of my shift, I go back to my parents' house and I just am so sad and I'm, I'm, I could cry and I'm having like the worst time and oh my God, I can't believe I'm crying. I haven't cried telling the story in so long and I just, I got to my parents' house and I turned off my car and when I turned the car off, you know when the internal lights come on? Yeah. I just sat there like I was staring off into space. Like the car was completely silent. I drove home in silence, like I was just really struggling and I'm staring off into space and the internal lights can't come on. And I sat there for a couple minutes and I looked down at the floor, which I never would've, I don't know even know why I did it, but I looked down on the passenger side of the floor and my registration was sitting there, and I was, I stood, I sat and stared at it for probably five minutes straight. Like, you know when you see something and you're like, that can't be it. Yeah. And when I opened my glove box, there was a tie in the glove box and Shannon and I had stolen her mother's wine. I'm so sorry, auntie Susie. Like two years before she passed, we had stolen her mother's wine and her mother has a daycare in the basement, our aunt and uncle, and there's a dress up box. And we dressed up and we got drunk and we walked to a 24 hour diner. And on the way to the diner, we stopped and there was a Velcro tie on the ground, which is so disgusting to think about it. And she picked it up and she velcroed it around her neck. And this was back in the day I had a physical camera. And so there's a picture of it. There's a picture of Shannon sitting in the diner with the tie, and we thought it was hilarious. It didn't match our outfits. We were in Mitch Mix match outfits. We painted our fingernails black. We did crazy makeup. Like we were just being silly teenagers going to the diner fucking around and. When I opened the glove box to put the registration back in the glove box, that tie was in the glove box. No one had known about the tie. I didn't talk about the tie. It wasn't even po I, I told the story and I was like, we got dressed up. The tie was the only thing that Shannon and I knew. Yeah. And I cried so fucking hard and so then I actually got mad because I thought my dad put it there as a joke. Oh, right. Well, well, that, that would be, which was very him. He loved to prank. He loved a, he loved a dad joke. He just loved joking around. He was just like one of those guys. And so when I got into the house, I was mad. I was like, how fucking dare you? Like this isn't funny to me. And he was like, what? He was so horrified. Then when I explained to him what happened, he ran out to my car and he was like, what are, and when I showed him, he was in shock. And like, he, he joked around with us a lot, but he would never, yeah, he would never lie either. And I was in my parents, we all just stood there and I cried and my mom cried. Even my, we were just like, holy shit. It was missing for two straight months. He looked in that car two hours earlier. Yeah. Like, there was, if he hadn't looked the same night, I think I would've shaken it off. But the ti the tie to this day is in my glove box. And it, it's just so specific and it's only something we would know. Yeah. And I was like, this is fucking her. It was giving like a, he, he, yeah. It was like, it's gonna be okay. Here's a good memory of us. Like, I don't know, it was just a, it was a wink from above. Yeah. And listen, I, if people like, well I know we joked about butterflies and pennies and if you think those things are signs, and there's actually a woman, I've seen her on TikTok where she thinks of a completely random object and her husband passed and she in her brain, she never says it out loud. She just thinks it And it will show up. Yeah. And she's just like, it's him. So if you believe in that stuff, I am leaning more towards that as I get older. Good for you. If it makes you feel better, to your point, if it makes you feel better, if it brings you peace to know that they're someone on, they're somewhere to go on the other side and your people are waiting for you. I love it. It's the only that tie in that glove box will, will top my list forever and it will never not be in the glove box of a car I drive. As you should. I love that story. So very long story, all of this to say, I am going woo woo. Read me my tarots, drop me my ties. I'm here for it. Okay. Some two just other spooky places in Boston and then we'll, we'll end it. I swear. The Omni Parker house. I actually, when you started speaking, I almost said like, not to be like a nerd, but like is the Omni Parker house on this established in 1855, the Omni Parker house is Boston's oldest, continuously operating hotel. Indeed, but behind its elegant facade lies a history steeped in mystery. Guests have reported hearing the faint strains of piano music emanating from an empty ballroom. So creepy. That is creepy. Piano music is creepy, stunning, creepy from an empty ballroom. It reminds me of like the haunted mansion, Colleen. It was about to come out of my house and it was pictured in my brain. Yeah. Was that guy sitting at the piano? That's a coffin. You just said house instead of mouth. I said what It was that I was just about to come outta my house. Oh, my mouth. I thought you said mouth. Mouth. Mouth. Guess I reported hearing the faint. Oh yeah. Some claim to have seen the apparition of Harvey Parker, the hotel's founder still overseeing his establishment. Others speak of a woman in white wandering the halls. Believed to be a former guest who met a tragic end. It's always a woman in white like, please. She's always in like colonial garb. Like, let this woman rest. And then I had to ask about the Salem witch trials. I'm like, what's the Spookiest Salem Witch Trial House? And it said, among Salem's most infamous landmarks stands, the Witch House, the former residence of Judge Jonathan Corwin, who presided over the Salem Witch trials. While the house itself wasn't used for the trials, it holds a dark history intertwined with the events of 1692. There's supposed to be faces in the windows renowned for its eerie ambiance, so many eerie things. This episode, this is an eerie episode. Ooh, spooky. The witch house is said to be haunted by spirits from the trial era. Visitors have reported unexplained occurrences, cold spots, flickering lights, and the sensation of being watched some claim to have seen shadowy figures moving through the rooms. And others have heard faint whispers echoing through the halls. One particularly chilling account comes from a visitor who while touring the house, felt an icy hand brush against their shoulder. Turning around, they found no one there. Another visitor reported hearing footsteps following them through the house, only to discover they were completely alone. Woof. These unsettling experience have led many to believe that the spirits of those who are, who suffered during the trials still linger within the h, the walls of the witch house seeking justice or perhaps peace. I would too. That happened to me. I'd be fucking around all day. Oh, I would be haunted. The fuck outta you guys. Haunting the fook outta you guys. The FI believe in the limbo. I think there has to be somewhere. That makes me sad though, because then they don't have peace. They'll find it eventually. You think so? Mm-hmm. Do you think like someone tells their story and then it like, I don't know, maybe just someone being like, you're good now you can go. Exactly. I acknowledge you being here. Yeah. Like I acknowledge your presence. I hear you. I feel you. You can go away now. Yeah. You can be at peace. Yeah. Wow. And then they're like, oh, right. I can go to the other side. I want to be more woo woo. But I don't wanna be susceptible to that stuff. Like I have, I have nightmares enough. No, that's not true. I just don't want, I don't, nothing happens to me. I don't wanna communicate though. Like, leave me signs. I love that. I don't need flickering lights. I don't need people whispering cold spots. Hovering. Yeah. Staring. I'm good, I'm good. But like from, like, I couldn't have my pussy more out to the woowoo and I don't, nothing happens to me. So why nothing's gonna happen to you. That's true. So That's true. Do it that way. You'll, I mean, I have a lot of people I gotta talk to a long line. It's a list. I got a lot of pause two. Well, whatever you believe. I hope you have a wonderful spooky season. Eat some candy. Eat some candy. Watch practical magic. Have some midnight margaritas. Mm-hmm. Pop your pussy to hocus pocus. I put a spell on you. So, Aaron had the kids watch it and they loved it. Obviously. Ha say it's up. That is such a bop. And I guess after it Claire said, can I hear that song? And Aaron put on that and she goes, no, the other one. And it was Come Little Children. Claire. Claire, one of us. One of us. But you know what I mean? Like, of all the songs to play right. From HOAs, Roku come, I mean, not the pussy pop songs, but the, the Sarah Jessica part, she was like the blonde witch. Yeah. And Hern was like, come little children. Are you fucking kidding me? I have to text Aaron. That's hilarious. Yeah. I'm gonna go see them for Halloween and they're so excited. What are they gonna be? Do you know? Danny is Minecraft. Oh, and Princess Elsa is obviously, Claire is Elsa. Elsa is Claire. All right, everybody have a lovely Halloween. Eat all the candy. Put on the haunted mansion and grow the fuck up. Love you mean it. Love you mean it. Goodbye. Oh my God, that was so scary. I hated that.

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