Toothpaste For Dessert

On this week’s episode, On this week’s episode, Bridget pops over to Montreal to visit her travel friends and lives her best Canadian life with poutine and nonstop giggles. Meanwhile, Colleen has a great Thanksgiving but for the first time ever, we didn’t spend it together. Luckily, our aunt saved her famous baked potato soup just for Colleen and all was right in the world again. 

Then we get into the story of the week, THE BIGGEST LOSER. Colleen dives into the new Netflix documentary about The Biggest Loser and it is DARK. We’re talking horrific conditions, contestants basically experiencing a famine, people eating mustard packets for survival, and fridges with actual padlocks on them!! What in the CULT is going on here?! Grab a drink, get cozy and don't let the sciatica get you down!t

Sources:

• Fit for TV: The Reality of the Biggest Loser - Netflix
• Wikipedia
• ChatGPT

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And begin. Tell me what's wrong. I have never seen such sorrow and the tomorrow. We haven't done that one in a while. That good? That was really good. Thank you. In my opinion. You too. If anybody listening feels differently, kindly turn us off. Thank you. No, don't, just don't tell us we're fine. We're doing this new thing where we, we actually just don't need to know. No, I, I do. No, you don't. You don't wanna know. You wanna live in the land of d Lulu. That's right. I have no idea what's been said on this podcast to the point where I no, no longer know what topics we discussed. And I have to ask to the point, what was the one you did where I was like, shit, I think we did this. The bling ring. Oh, B ring. I was like, Colleen, we have, because we talked about it, but we didn't do it. Yeah. Anywho. Hi. Hey. How ya doing? How ya doing? Welcome to this week's episode of Sipping with the Shannons. We're cousins and every other week we sit down, we sip on some wine, we talk some shit, and we have a good giggle. I'm Bridget Shannon. And I'm Colleen Shannon. Could I do that intro without you openly mocking me across the couch one day maybe. Do you think? Oh, Ash. Oh, sorry. For our friend Ash, I did just lose the wine. I won't lie. She sat down and just goes, where did I put the wine? And there are only like two spots. It's the couch to the point where I thought it was between my legs. I go, is if I didn't move, I froze. I said, is it between my legs and I'm just about to spill it? The bag you didn't know an entire goblet filled with ice. And wine wasn't in between your legs. There's a lot going on down there. It's terrifying. It reminds me of this is 40. Don't feel anything down there. I could sit on an open fire hydrant. Nothing. Oh my God. That's so funny. All right, what's up? What's the tea? Do you want me to go first? Is that why you asked? Sure. Why not? Why the fuck not? I actually haven't seen you in so long, which is weird'cause you had different Thanksgiving plans. I don't wanna talk about it. I really didn't like that. So let's hear about how great Thanksgiving was that I missed. I would never do that to you. No, I'm actually here. I know, I It's okay. No, I know you mean it. That's strong. Well, the, the week before Thanksgiving, I was in Montreal. Yes. And I was visiting my friends, Rochelle and Stefano put me up and they have this gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous apartment. And I got my own room in the comfiest bed okay. So if you've been listening to the pod, I met Rochelle in Stefano in Buenos Air is when I was fun employed. And then we went to Brazil together in Enos Aires. We met our friend Kara, who lives in Toronto. Yes. Who flew in? The three of us, four of us all go to Brazil and we meet Amber, who also lives in Montreal. Okay. So it was all of us. The whole squad. The whole squad. And it was so much fun. I, I don't have any notes. I didn't have to tell you anything on the side.'cause sometimes we do that. Yeah. I'm like, what can't you tell me? What can't you tell me on the po I, there's nothing I can't share with you. I can't believe I met them nearly two years ago. Like January is two years ago. That's wild. It feels like yesterday you were there. I know. We had the best time. We just ate amazing food. And Rochelle's the type of host where like some things are already planned in advance, so she's made the reservations, but everything is just open to whatever we wanna do. Also, their metro, they're around the corner from their closest like train station, which they call the Metro. They have an unlimited weekend pass for like 16 bucks. I'm like, why don't more cities do that? I literally couldn't even tell you how to take the train here. You don't take the tea ever? No. Have you ever taken the tea? I'm like the 10th grade and we just wanted to drink on the train. You hooligan. Where were you taking Itel Hall? Walk around, see the guys playing the drums, and then we'd take the train back. Okay. Why? And we would drink like UV blue outta water bottles. UV blue gross. But anyway, Rochelle just like had all the best things planned. And then everything else we just did. We went to the Christmas markets. Oh, I had poutine. So why is that gross? It's a, it's a potato with gravy and Ew. Oh, separate entities. Sack fucking religion. No. Swear you knew this about me. No, that's wrong. Sorry. Didn't mean to Yuck. You're yum. Yeah, that's Or whatever. It's straight fucking wrong. It's wrong. Okay. Whatever in wrong. But I know it's a thing there, so I'll respect. So delicious. We went to this. Stefano loves to order wine for the table. I love that order for us. I don't wanna think, actually. No. Yeah, he like gets so much, he's such a wine now. Your sister does that? It's my favorite thing. Oh. She just orders apps for everybody. I, I'm obsessed. Yeah. I don't wanna actually think, you know what I like. Yeah. Just take, take charge. I love this for us. So we just had, it was just a lot of like laughing and catching up in long dinners with wine. I mean, just no notes. Mm-hmm. And one night we went to a drag show and of course Celine Dion came out and of course Shania Twain came out obviously. And of course Mariah Carey came out'cause that's where all the queens will always come out. And then we went to karaoke and in Montreal you can strip while you sing and there are strip karaoke bars. Oh my jaw's open. Oh. I was like, we have to keep calling out of this country. She would be so naked screaming Abba in 2.5 seconds. A hundred percent. So we went to a light one. We didn't go to like full strip, but I did watch a man, you know, strip out of his shirt and pants while he's saying, oh, did he have his out? No, but boxers in, in a little, oh, okay. That's boring. Little tidy whitey tank top. Ooh, okay. Mm-hmm. He was get, he was putting his full pussy into it. Lemme tell you. Good for him. I just laughed so hard though. Like it was one of those places like take Hong Kong and elevate it. So there were two guys so drunk off key, off key singing. My Heart Will Go On. I was dying laughing. And the people who work there put on a snowflake machine so it started to snow while they were singing. And I was laughing so hard, the theatrics, I was crying. Like I didn't even get up and sing karaoke that night because I was so much enjoying the experience. Yeah, usually you're like, can this person get the fuck off the stage? I loved every second of it. I loved every second of it. It was so good to see my friends. I have so much fun with them. It's just one of those things like we don't get together as a group a lot'cause we're from different countries, so to just have a weekend, I was there Thursday to Sunday, it was perfect. Also the flight. An hour and a half. Oh, really? So quick. Up and down open bar. The guy was like, you, you deserve wine. I was like, you're right. I do. That's so nice of him. I do deserve wine. He top me up. He was like, quick, finish it, finish it, finish it. We're about to land. You gonna finish it? Topping me up in the back. I'm like sir. Air Canada has the sweetest stewardess steward eye. What are men? Steward? Steward M Stewards. Stewards flight attendant. Question mark Steward eye. What the fuck? Stewart Eye. Sorry. Oh, me was, you know, that just reminded me of that. I don't think I ever told you about Nashville. This is so random. Oh, I'm gonna have to say it before I forget. I forget. Me and Fiona flew together in the morning and on our flight, the second flight, second flight, we were the steward eye, male steward. Mm-hmm. Stopped us and was like, Hey.'cause I think one of the ladies was like bringing a drink down and like needed to clear before we got on the plane. Ah. Or I don't know. She was doing something and she, he basically was like, can you wait here for a second? But was like, Hey, like, do you, let's chat for a minute. And I was like, oh, ill, yeah, I'm with you all day. Love. Like, what do you wanna talk about? Mm-hmm. Like, I don't mind waiting, whatever. And then he was like, I'll find you guys drinks on me. And we were like, okay. Obviously like I sleep on plane, so I'm like, I don't care. So we're in like the last row. He finds us doing his like normal. Like he's with the other stewardess and when she's not looking, he's like, like, what do you want? What do you want? And Fiona's like, I'm good. And I was like, let's get bloody Mary. She doesn't even like bloody Mary's. And he gives us a, a double bloody Mary. And then he disappears. Angel immediately comes back and is like another round, brings us another round, and then he brings us a bottle of a thing of champagne and then he gives us a puke bag filled with Tito's nips. We were like, I don't, I'm overwhelmed. Like, and we didn't even find'em at the end. We couldn't even find him to Angel. It was the weirdest. I've never had that experience. I was shitfaced when we got off the plane, but we had to wait for Aaron for like an hour and a half. And by the time she got there I was getting low. So then I was getting tired, right? And I was like, oh no. Things are, we have got to pick this pussy up. But it was, I've never had that experience on a plane. Here's the thing, and if you have never drank as much as we have, you will not know this. There is a point right there is a come down. Okay. You can either ride the, come down and experience it or suck it up. Double down. Yeah. Sack it up. And you set. And there's just this moment where you're like, I could either go to sleep. And just be hungover for the next day or ride this motherfucking wave. But when we put, and sometimes that's easier. Well, when we touched down it was 9:00 AM That's what I mean. You don't have, you don't have the luxury. Yeah. Of, of this is the sack. Up of all the sack up is when you touch down. I have to, I have no other choice in Nashville. I have no other other choice. Where am I gonna rest my head? I can't get my Airbnb till four. Keep this bitch moving. Yeah. I smelled so bad. Okay. But that's all I had to tell you. Wow. That's amazing. Well, I had take Air Canada and you will also get similar treatment. They were so lovely. Lovely. And I just, I, I don't even know what to say. Like I just had the best time and I love them so much and it was really my cup of runneth over. I love when your cup with runneth over. I know. And it always comes at a really good time. I also love when your sister's cup with Runeth over when she goes to, oh, it's my favorite thing, Conway. That's like when I feel a piece Oh her. When her, when she's with her friends. Yeah. Yeah. That's also a, a big fave of mine is when Erin's, Erin's happy. Okay. Thanksgiving. So weird without you, Karen and I, I'm like so sad to hear, but also am I sad to hear that? I mean, we had fun like No, I know. I know. We had a great time. It just was fucking weird. Like there was just less yapping. No, there wasn't. There was a lot of yapping. But I have to tell you, is it about the soup? It's in my fridge and waiting for you. You didn't. I did. Auntie Terry insisted. No, I have a tear on my eye that I bring home big potato soup and the next time we record the podcast that I let you know that it was Carly. I'm so upset and it's been in my fridge and I have not touched it. And it is waiting for you. It is her best year yet. Erin goes, we actually, are you crying? I know. I'm literally so like, no, Colleen, that's so nice and so thoughtful. Are you fucking kidding me right now? That's so not upsetting. It's like a happy upsetting, but like I'm fine. We've talked about dead people on this podcast. Yeah, I know. Just don't talk about Spencer. I don't care what the other ones, God. Respectfully. So it's her best year yet she told us that instead of cream, she used heavy cream. Oh yeah. So it was just like Erin said, we actually can't tell Colleen, like we cannot tell her that the best year of her baked potato soup, she was not here for. However, that's when Auntie Terry was like, Nope, I have to go containers. You are, I'm gonna give you a cup. I'm gonna have to text her and I'm filling it up and you put it in your fridge and the next time you see her, can you give it to her? And I was like, I would love that. And I know she would too, that I couldn't be happier. So when you leave, please remind me to give you the baked potato soup that is awaiting you. Okay. And how your life has been. Okay. I really have nothing going on. I'm not gonna lie to you. I did nothing the weekend of Thanksgiving. I had a fabulous Thanksgiving, I guess, you know, did, did the things. It was very like socially draining. I will say. Yeah, because you had multiple stops, which means you're on, I've never done that before. Yeah. So I had three stops and I've never done that before. It was actually quite a lot. I ended up absolutely sleeping for 12 hours after. Yeah. It's a lot of being on all day. It was, it was, but it was also like, it's light. Like I have no complaints. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I get it. I totally get it. Yeah. It was just, it is what it's, it was Thanksgiving and Right. I have no notes about it. I first Thanksgiving with man's, though I will say did enjoy that. Loved having company. Very much enjoyed that. That's one positive. I will say. The night before I went to an actual bar in Holbrook, which I've never done before, because that's where I'm from. If anybody needs to know that, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. If Bridge's gonna yell at me. No, you can say where you're from. Okay. I don't like when you say full addresses of where I live or you currently go one time. One time. It's one time. No, so I'm the town in which I'm from. I actually have never gone out to a bar there because like, you know, I've never, I didn't go to public school, whatever whole thing. I actually went to a bar in Holbrook, somehow in this world, and Okay, how'd it go? So it was fine. It was fun, but I will say the line to get a drink at the bar. And I, you know, I love a tiny bar. I love a die bar. I love all the things line to get unacceptable. Four, five minutes. Crazy, crazy, crazy. No, yeah, I'm leaving. No urgency. Horrible. But everybody was there, so I was like, we're not gonna leave. They had karaoke going, which like, I was amped up about, Nope, no, no, no. The, the, the townie next to me, I could hear her. She's like, my husband's the dj. I need to get him a drink, da da da. He was not, he was not a dj. He was picking the song for the people and he was picking. The his squad members and they were like an emo group. My husband is the DJ at a karaoke, no, I was Bar bridge. I was losing my mind. And no one else was like paying attention to that shit. And you know, I was hyperfocused on it and it was like a group of people like what a weird fucking inaccurate flex. It was so strange. And she like was like, it was like giving screamo, which like no hate I guess, but like there's just, when you're doing karaoke, you want people please like, what are we doing? They were only picking people. No, my stance on this, they did shallow, don't worry. There was a g They were doing like stream of music. No. So I was like trying to talk about like, oh, what's everybody's plans tomorrow? And it's like in the background, here's the thing, go home and do that in your house. Yeah. They were all like head banging. It was so weird. They were like jolting their bodies. It was a very outof body experience. The magic of chosen family. That's all I will say. Aw. What do you think is, why is that the only sentence that's nice in everything? You like skate over that, but all the shitty people at the bar get a full column. Because fuck them. I need someone to hyper fixate on. I need to get my hate out from somewhere. Fair. What is the most elite Thanksgiving food, in your opinion? I know we've talked about it, but it's probably been like a year since we have Oh, a mashed potato. Okay. Is that too obvi? I mean, I would say stuffing is probably the thing that I most look forward to. I don't have often, I love a stuffed mushroom. Like as I've gotten older, I've really, really enjoyed those. You would like mine, I made them with bozen cheese. Oh. Oh. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Johnny had nine John, and then my mom had the other with 10. When I was in Canada, I was like, oh yeah, my, my cousin Colleen's boyfriend and Rashelle goes mans because Rochelle listens to the pot all the time. She was like, oh, how is Mans? How's Colleen? He has no idea. He's mans, I don't think. You've never told him he's mans? I don't think so. Okay. Well, you should probably tell him. He doesn't have to listen, but you should tell him. One of my Cho's fiance was looked at me one day and goes, you have to stop calling him. Mans. You do realize that, right? Put some respect on his name. Wait, does he listen? No, but I like you just mean in general. At the beginning, I just kept saying, mans like, I don't know. It just felt weird to be like, I don't know, Johnny. I don't know. I just like, it didn't, it didn't feel right at the beginning. Very beginning. Yeah. But then it just stuck. I kept just being like, oh, you know, man's is coming. Like, I, I just, it just stuck. See, I thought it was like my man's Well, well, now it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I just say, where's my husband? But I don't care. I don't know if he knows that or not, but I also don't care. But he also would like, he'd be like, all right, that, yeah, he'd giggle at that. Yeah. So that's that. But yeah, he does not know he's man. Thanksgiving food for me, I don't know. I always eat like random shit. Like a roll or like a a potato and that's like really it. See, I don't wanna fill up on bread. Even though at a restaurant I would eat the bread and butter like immediately. Yeah. On Thanksgiving. I'm like, I eat that all the time. I wanna eat the other stuff. I love gravy. I know that's not a food, but I love gravy. But you don't like soup, but you'll eat gravy. Gravy to me is almost, it's like a topping. It's like it ruins potatoes. For me it's, it absolutely ruins potato. I'm horrified. That's that. That's the meanest. I made gravy the other night just to put it on a rotisserie chicken. Okay. That I can understand that.'cause you need some sauce with a rotisserie chicken. How does that, what is happening right now? I don't know. I feel like we live on two different planets. I should make you a good roast. You would like my roast. You make a roast? Yeah. You roast a Turkey? Not a Turkey. I don't like Turkey, but it's beef. You roast a chicken. I roast beef. Since when, I don't know crockpot, who the fuck taught you how to roast beef Google? I didn't know. What do you, what do you do with it? I serve it to people with mashed potatoes and the sauce that it cooks in, and I guess you can call that gravy, but it's not, I don't make it into gravy. I just use it like an Azure. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I did not know that. I've never heard of that. You've never said that to me. I'll make you one soon. Okay, great. That sounds lovely. That's all I love when people cook for me, it makes me very happy, which is why I love going to Auntie Terry's because Karen's making the drinks. Auntie Terry's playing the tunes she put on Wicked for me. She's making you a plate. You're not even there. She's making me a plate. I'm like, not even there. This is the best place on earth. She's got all the things for the kids. This is my Disney. Yeah, it's my, that is my favorite house I would say. When you hear the door at her house too, like you just, and everyone looks Yes. Like, it's just like, I can hear it, I can sense it, I can feel it. And the door is in the kitchen where everyone sits and eats. So when someone comes in, you can immediately see them and everyone's like, Hey. Yeah. Every time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, best place on earth. Chills. Okay. What else? I, I literally have no notes. I have nothing. I got two rounds of Christmas trees, so the Grinch is being released from me. I went with Mans and his brother to get their tree. They were not having my bullshit. Mahoneys? Yes. Best place on Earth. Oh yeah. They wouldn't brother wouldn't let us go into the knickknack door. Very upset. Very upset with him. Both of us. Not happy. Oh, okay. He was feeling grinchy. I think something, you know, maybe there was a hangover involved. I don't know. But they wouldn't like, I'm like, lemme get a picture. No, not, not entertaining it. Do you know what side? I know you come from a big Christmas tree home, but Yes. They come from a real big Christmas tree home. Do you know how fucking big, the real Christmas tree they get in their parents' house is? It's like 15 feet. Okay.'cause I was gonna say the one in my family home right now I think is 12, but it's real. So imagine that's fucking crazy. I would never, so you were like, they brought a measuring tape and we're like looking at that. Some people will dial on that hill though. Some people are like real tree or bust. I like a fake one that the bulbs are already on it and you just plug it in and then you hang the little. Bol some fur things inside of it and smells real. And I don't have to because I kill every plant I have. I certainly don't wanna kill a tree. That's fair. I, I just always picture like when Buddy the elf chops it down in Central Park. That's fair. Like, where are you guys getting the shit? They had been, it's mahoneys there against the wall and they were literally fucking huge. Like, I feel like I was in a forest, and they're like, yeah, this is like the one we get. And they're, they have a, he whips a measuring tape out of his bed, shut the fuck up. I was like, goes, that's a good size. That's a good size. I'm like, this is fucking insane. How do you even get that in a vehicle? We never in my house. How do you transfer that? I dunno. I dunno what there, oh, actually one time my dad, we did it one time in my dad, they like strap it to the top of a truck. Oh, okay. And like tow it home. Oh. But it was very cute. People were like walking around with like Yetis and Mimosas and their dogs. I'm like, I actually really, oh, I love Mahoneys. If you're not from this area, Mahoneys is like a Christmas tree farm with a store where you can buy all Christmas themed stuff of knick-knacks and tchotchkes. But they're beautiful. They're not tacky. Yeah. It's not like going to Party City. Oh, no, no, no. Or Halloween fucking what's, what's it called? No, no, no, no. Yeah, it's really, really beautiful. So when you were like, I just went to a Christmas tree shop and I loved it. I was like, I fucking know. It's Mahoneys. Mm-hmm. It's gotta be. Yeah. And they like don't have a backseat in their truck. It's like a two seater, but like you just, I was usually around you just propped. So I'm like this in the back. No, no. Rolly po. I'm like, guys, get in. You know how they have those cutouts for the children that you put your face in, like at the farm? I was like, guys get in there and they're like, shut the fuck up. I'm like, okay. Oh, they just wanted to go and get the tree and leave in peace. Oh yeah. They were like talking this. They were like, this one's not speaking to me. I'm like, what? What they, their trees. Okay. Respectfully. I dunno if he's gonna listen to this, but your tree's fucking huge and it doesn't fit in your kitchen. It's in their kitchen. That's all. It ain't right. It ain't right. It ain't fucking right. But then I went and got mine there in V Of course. Naturally. Yeah, of course. And she's perfect. No notes of course. Yeah. Duh. Things I watched in red because I did nothing. I watched and read a lot actually for once. Okay. I'm ready. I started the fourth wing. Oh yeah. Okay. And yes, I like it. Do you like it more than aar? No. Interesting. But also I didnt finish aar so like I just couldn't get past that last book, even though, which sucks. Is is not the end. No, there's one more coming out next year. Okay. So maybe we'll we revisit that actually. There will probably be more. Yeah, I think, well I had to give it, I gave it back. I put it back on your shelf, but I was like, it's been sitting on my bedside table for probably a year. I think you need to audible it. I don't think it's something you can read. Yeah. I think you just, well, I genuinely read, but actually super SMU though. So you wouldn't like that'cause you don't like when smut is working? No.'cause I'd be like listening to it in the car, like on my way to work. Oh no. Thank you. Yeah. Fair please. So yeah, the fourth wing, I'm like halfway through. I like it. I didn't think I could get past the dragons. I'm okay with it. Okay, great. I love that for you. I Audio booked Lacey by Colleen Hoover. Okay. Didn't love it. What is this ghostly situation now? I've never read it. Okay. Yeah. Don't, I was expecting like a, a true Colleen Hoover book. It was like ghosty. Okay. So I feel like she's branching out'cause she, her first step into the new stuff was verity. Yeah. So it's way worse than verity. It's like putting someone's soul into another. Yeah. It's fucking weird. Fucking weird.'cause verity gave like true crime. No, it's not true crime. It's like paranormal sile almost. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was weird. I didn't like it. Okay. Duly noise. I thought it was going someplace and then it wasn't. Yeah, she's, she's branching out quite a bit. I did watch all her fault and. I liked it. I liked it a lot. It's, it's up your alley. She pissed me off. Sarah Snook. The redhead? Yeah. Wow. I don't know why. Something about her interesting. From the beg. It was the first episode that set me off. I love Dakota Fanning. Love her. Love her. So good. I, when she shows up at the house and she's like, and I'm not doing your fucking fuck. Like you tell her Dakota, yes. I did love her, loved her energy. Hated the husband from the beginning. Both husbands hated them. He's from the White Lotus, I believed. Carrie Finch, Josephine Murphy. I believed her. I had a fe I had a good feeling about her from the beginning. Oh wow, okay. I didn't have a, your crazy feeling about her. I said, I was like, there's some legibility. A woman, always a girl, always knows, always, always. The Diddy documentary, I haven't watched it yet. Not great. I'll tell you. Not great in the sense that it's not a good documentary, as in like, he's not great. So I was thinking of doing an episode on it. You should, you should watch that and then do an episode. It's good. I'm just, I've never heard of someone hating another person. More than 50 cent hates Diddy and he has had a beef with this man for so long. For good reason and for good reason. And imagine not just being like, I don't like you, but being like, I am going to take every ounce of information that I can find on you and put it into a documentary. Wait for you to get arrested and then release it to be your nail in the coffin. No one does petty like 50 cent and I am fucking here for it. Fiona is his number one fan and she's like, he would never have been caught at a, a white party. I'll tell ya. She's like, ride or die, 50 cent. I get it. Same, same girl calls him by his government name like that. That's where we're at, Curtis. Yeah. Yeah. She has a get rich or die. Get rich or die trying t-shirt. She wore to bed last night. She's the whitest person. Yeah, she's literally alabaster. So we were watching it last night and she's like. Oh my God, that's so funny. Good Lord. Yeah. Justice for AO Day. Mm. Yeah, it was crazy. You should, you should give it a watch. And then of course Erin comes in and she's like, Tupac Shakur. I'm like, dude, PAC Chaker. And she's like, why do you guys know about this? I'm like, this is pub knowledge. She's very, she's always like, I don't know, pub culture, popup culture. Yeah. She doesn't know what's going on. And she'll always be like, how do you guys know about this? And we're like, and she's like, oh. So he died when he was murdered when we were in college and we're like, no, before we were born, like literally before. And she said, how do you know about that Then? She kills like a massive pop culture re and then she, but it's the confidence, like her being like, Tupac Shakur. I'm like, I'm sorry, what was that? He look, Googles at me, he looks kind of familiar. Cool. Thought Paul Walker was alive. Who's that? He's hot. I'm like, oh good lord. Here we go. She keeps this on her toes. That one? Mm-hmm. I also watched the Carmen family murders on Netflix. I have not seen that. Is there a boat? Is there something to do with a boat? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't finished it yet, so I don't know what the outcome is. I actually have no idea. I didn't look it up. Okay. So I'm sure people know what the, the, the ending is Idea. Are they rich or something? Yeah. So he's autistic and his Okay. No like. Autistic. Autistic, like, I'm scared severely, like giving like off the, off the cuff, looking at him, not even coming for anybody. He looks like a school shooter. Like legit. Oh yeah. He's, he's definitely not, well, he's not well, but he killed his grandfather, I think before, and it was never proved, but all the family members think they, he killed his grandfather. Oh God. Yeah. It's whole thing. You have to watch it. And then years later he allegedly killed his mother. They, and they go out fishing, I think. Haven't finished, so I don't know what happens, but, and like they're missing and they end up finding him, but he does not look like he's been lost at sea for days. So it's, something's off and she's never, I don't know if she's been found. I haven't finished it yet, so we'll see. But something suss there I watched, I tried to watch. Secret Lives and Mormon wives The final season. Yeah. I, one fucking episode. It's just like, mom talk. Well, mom talk. Survive it. I can't, I can't, I can't get past the mom talk. I can't. Yeah. It's just not for me personally. No, I can't do it. I don't blame you. I, I hear it's like super entertaining in a train wreck. I just, I just am all set. And I love the worst of, the worst of reality tv. I was just like, what? I can't, I can't get past it. Yeah. I watched, oh, we have to talk about Dancing with the Stars. Yes. The finale. What'd you think Alex should won? Alex Harl shoulda won. Yeah. She really should have. I love Robert. Uh, Robert Erwin. I would ride for him at dawn. Get the pitchforks. You shouldn't have won. Yeah. It's a popularity contest. Yeah. But Alex is popular too. Yeah. But he, I mean, clearly not as much as Robert, but she's such a s like. No. No. It's on her last dances. Yeah. She looks like the professional obsessed when you're trying to figure out who is who. Yeah. You can't in the dance. And if, if a random person just turned it on and didn't know what the show is about and you couldn't figure it out, that's when you know. Yeah, that's, she's that good. What do you think? She's soy too, so it's funny. Yeah, she's very, she's not tall, but she's like, I mean, she's so thin. Like she's so long. Yeah. Her legs are long though. Yes, legs are very long. What'd you think of Whitney Levitt on call her daddy. Oh, I didn't even listen. I can't, I'm not, well she did her final dance. They did that free style. Oh style. I watched the dance. The dance was really good. Okay. My way. Still hate her. Still hate her. Don't care. Yeah. I mean, I feel like a lot of people feel that way. I also couldn't listen on call her daddy'cause I don't like Alex Cooper. Oh, that's where you and I completely differ. I don't like her. I really, really like her. I don't, I don't like her at all. Okay. I don't know why. Just it doesn't settle. Right. She annoys me. Okay. And that's, those was my thoughts. So no, I did not listen, but I did watch the dance of the dance was good. I'm glad she didn't win that. And I'm glad America voted off for a reason. You already duly noted. I watched Fit for tv, the reality show about Biggest Loser Too as well. Is that like people who had been on the show and they're talking about how toxic it is. Yeah. It's like we talk to Benary about it. Yeah. And loved it. It'll come back in this episode. Oh wow. Okay. Great. Cool. Wicked. Okay, so right before Thanksgiving, Erin and I saw Wicked wicked For Good. If you are new here, we have been obsessed with Wicked for I would say 20 years. It's been around for I would say about 20 years. Last year we went, we cried hysterically in an very embarrassing, wholesome way and you all heard about it. And so one year later, here we are. I don't even know where to explain. Like so much happens it. I feel bad for people who have never seen the. Broadway show because if you went in thinking it was gonna be like the first one, I understand why some people are like, I did not like it because it's such a, I mean, everyone loses the fucking plot. People are murdered. Yeah. Like it's a totally different, it's kind of like I was comparing it to the second part of the Titanic. I love to stop the movie, right? When they get down into the basement and they're doing the Irish jig. Yeah. And they're spinning around and they're smiling at each other. I'm like, oh my God, how whole? Hell, some shit's about to go down. Immediate stop. I'm like, what a beautiful end to that movie that is kind of like wicked. There's wicked like pop y and like dancing around school, dancing through life. And then there's Wicked part two, and here we are, the second half of Hamilton Aaron said, you can't have, the world turns upside down without it's quiet uptown. And if you know those are references, you'll understand like very light to very dark. So I get it. I loved it. I thought the ending was beautiful. I thought Ariana Grande. Her heart breaks about 17 times throughout the movie. It's, there's a part where she's like, surrounded. Did you see it? No. There's a part where she's standing around her wedding scene and she sits down on the stairs and starts to cry. And I put my hand over my mouth and like gasped. It's like so heartbreaking. No, good deed is insane. No. Good deed is fucking insane. First of all, I hope they both win the Oscar. I think Ariana Grande will, but I hope they both win. I feel like they both would. I fucking hope so. It's, they're fucking everywhere. So in no good deed, it starts with alphabet yelling. Fiero like top volume. Because he's in trouble. Right. I won't spoil it more than that. In the movie they gave the word to Ariana Grande. So Ariana Grande yells Fiero. Hmm. And it is brilliant. It's probably my favorite change outside of them changing harmonies for good. That is probably my favorite change from musical to movie. It's incredible. Hmm. It's incredible. That whole scene where there's like a bitch fight. There's like a little cat fight. Very cute. Very funny. I mean, the clothes, Paul Taswell designs all the clothes he won on Oscar last year. He's fucking incredible. The dresses, the detail. I can't get enough of him. I, I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna say it with my whole chest. Ethan Slater, I'm sorry. I doubted you Really Absolutely crushes this movie. Interesting. Like, I left there being like, he was a, he stuck out to me in a movie with Ariana Grande, Cynthia Arrivo, and Jonathan Bailey. Hey, that's some tea. He crushes it. N Rose. Don't even get me started. I just fucking can't. I fucking can't. For good. I obviously wept. You know, it was Shan's favorite song, and it's meant a, you know, a lot to me since she was alive. And I wept. I, I said to Erin, it would be weird if a 30 5-year-old died from heartbreak in the middle of a movie theater. Right? Like, my heart just shattered. It just was like, it just, it already means a lot to us. So it's, and it's also just a painful watch because they're saying goodbye to each other. It's just really hard. But I loved it. I thought it was amazing. Like I said, I hope they both win both of the Oscars. However, this will not be a movie I throw on. Really? It was too, it was too heavy. Like it was too much. Okay. It's like Les Miz. I can't throw on Les M. Yeah. Like how we just threw on for Christmases, right? Like we've been watching for Christmases. That's the type of shit I throw on in the background. Yeah. This, this is not like, oh, it's a Monday. Let's watch Spotlight. You know what I mean? Like there are just some movies that you just can't grow on Hairspray. Yeah. See that I would do. Yeah. I loved it. I thought it was beautiful. I thought it was a really, there's a part at the very, very end that I won't spoil, but basically Glenda goes and looks towards the western sky for her, and I was like, this is so beautifully done. And their voices are so insane. Cynthia Arrivo is not from this planet. Yeah. I know I've said it before, but I just need to really reiterate. Ariana Grande crushes this movie, like the first movie feels like Cynthia's in the second one. Feels like Ariana Grandes. Really? Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. She, yes, it's, it's great. It's great. I loved it. I cried. I loved it. I mean, we looked like we got hit by a bus at the end of it. I was scared. I was nervous for you. We looked so deeply unwell, but there were so many people in the movie theater who were on the same Okay. As us. The beast in me. Have you seen it on Netflix? No. It is a TV show. I think it's eight episodes. I've seen it in advertisement for it, but I haven't seen it. Claire Danes in her little lip quiver. She is that bitch and she always has been that bitch. Okay. Brittany Snow Supremacy. Brittany Snow is on a comeback tour and I am fucking here for it. She's stunning. She is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. It's not fair. I think it's like the big Blue Doe eyes. Yeah, it's, and also she's one of those very rare people who can pull off every single hair color. There is not a single hair color. Color. She's loves her as a red head. Loved. She's obviously stunning blonde. Yeah. She's been like, she can do anything and look, she could wear a trash bag and I'd be like, that's the most beautiful trash bag I've ever seen. I've loved her since prom night when she had those extensions in. Fucking Colleen and you're stupid movie. Her shitty extensions. Fucking the hell, Colleen Matt Reese is in it. He's the main character. He is so scary. He is so scary. He is so scary. Mm, yummy. You'll oh, you'll love him. Okay. There is a part I won't tell you, but she's like looking at her book that she's writing as Claire. Dan's a writer and he's made edits in it with like, red marker and you're just like, it's, and then there's like a big twist at the end. There's a part where she texts the number and she doesn't realize he has the phone that she's texting and he answers it. It's his face in it is like, he's terrifying. He's terrifying. He, it's so good. I think you will love it. For me, it was perfect because it's eight episodes. It's really well done. The casting is absolutely insane. I loved everyone and it wraps up in a tight, tight bow right at the end. Every single thing Makes sense. Your dream. My dream. Okay. Then the last thing I will point out is I read Sunrise on the Reaping. Sunrise on the Reaping is the prequel to the Hunger Games, and it's Oh, right, right. It's Hey, Mitch's story. I'm still upset about it. Really? It is so fucking sad. I texted Aaron and said, why the fuck did I read this book? Sad. Why did I read this book? His story, if you dont, are they doing a movie? If you Yes. It's becoming a movie. Okay. If you don't like a spoiler, just jump ahead. I won't do a big spoiler. All I will say is the thing about the Hunger Games is you obviously know it's about to happen. It's a train you watch slowly crash. Right? And you can't help but feel connected to certain people, even though you know, you know how this is gonna end, and you assume that the trials are the worst part. Like when they're actually in the arena and they're doing the Hunger Games is the worst part. After he wins, when he gets home, is the worst part. The last 45 minutes of that book, inaudible is Dia fucking bole. Oh no. I was so sad. I did not leave Feeling good. There was an epilogue. I didn't feel good about it. I don't know if I'll be watching this movie. I mean, there's, it's all down. It's well cast though. I've been seeing things. It's really well casts. I'm specifically excited about Jesse Clemens as plu tar. I mean, El Fanning being Effy Trinket is like just no notes. Chef's Kiss. There's a bunch of other ones that I'm forgetting off the top of my head, but I don't know if I'll watch it. I probably will. Who are we kidding? I guess you will. Who are we kidding? Literally? Yes, you will. But I, I need time. Okay. I need to grieve. Okay, great. Okay. Okay, fine. Those are all the things I watched and went to and did, and I think that's everything. I think that's everything. You good? Yes, but my thoughts are. I love them dearly. Oh, oh. Cynthia and Ariana. I need them to stop too much. The press tour is too much for me. The touching? It's weird. Is it the crying or the touching? It's both. Okay. There was a lot more crying last year. No, I know. But like the adjusting the, the, the twiddling of the fingers, they're always touching. Like, miss Girl, you just fixed Arianna's necklace and there was nothing wrong with it. Stop. Stop. Yeah. It's too much. There's a sound and it's like, I need moment. I did moment. Everything's so to, everything's too much. It's too much. Okay. And like, I love them. I'm not, I'm really not trying, but it's, I I've hit my cat. Cat, you reached your limit. I to the point where I didn't like, I can't watch this movie. Like I just can't. Jonathan Melee is so fucking hot. He is. I leaned over to Aaron in the middle of the movie and said, I'm so mad that men get him'cause he's gay. I know men get to enjoy that, man. It's very upsetting. Tragic, horrific, tragic. He is so fucking hot. Also, shout out to fucking Chi history. The monkey, the flying monkey, the, the captain of the Flying Monkeys. The Captain Batty. Oh my God. There's this part where she's like, can't you see you wouldn't hurt me? He, he loves her and she, he says, I'm so sorry, Galinda. And she cries. I, I can't stop thinking about it. With Wicked one though, like, I went back to the movie theater and watched it multiple times. I don't know if I'll do it. Mm. I I cried so hard. I'm scared of you. I cried so hard. Oh. But fucking inject no good deed into my veins. I have one last thing. I have sciatica for the first time in my life, and I'm telling you right now, Colleen, I'm telling you right now, if this is aging, I'm unsubscribing. That's aging. Yeah, I'm unsubscribing. It is a pinched nerve in your back. I know. Why do you have that? And it's shooting down my leg and that is why I have a limp. Why you? I am. I am on sales calls. Is there a correlation between that and your new Pilates journey? I don't think so. Okay. I think it's sitting on a couch, but I sit, no, I'm dead serious. I think if you sit on too squishy of a couch, but that's like if you're rotting. I sit in like six different spots. I go out all the time. Like I'm not sitting all You're not Grandpa Joe Ex. I am not Grandpa Joe. Well, I'm not Grandpa Joe. Well, I'll be Grandpa Josephine then. You know, I play Grandpa Josephine to play. Colleen. Yeah. I am not Grandpa Joe. No, you're not. You're not. You're not nobody. He gets up. I'm up in Adam. I walk around all the time. He does too. I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you. Sorry. Sorry. Continue. I just, I'm so annoyed. I'm a healthy 30 5-year-old. I just don't understand why I fucking sciatica and it, it's a pain that goes from like the bottom of your ass to the why. Do you know what this is? I don't know. I just do. You never know stuff like this. I know. I don't know why. I know that. I, I feel like it affects people when they're pregnant a lot. Are you pregnant? Oh, great. Thanks. It does. I'm not pregnant, Colleen. I mean, I don't know your story. I don't know your business. Yes, you do. You know it very well actually. I'm just saying. But I'm out here on calls, like doing figure four stretches and shit. I don't like that for you. So if anyone has, I have a heating pad. I have my IBU prof, I have my foam roller. I'm, I'm doing my little stretches. If you have any advice about fucking sciatica, please pass it along.'cause I'm losing my gut. And I will say during the day, I obviously am getting up and walking around all the time. She's staying live and she's staying limber. Yeah. Waking up in the morning'cause I've been in the same position for hours. I look like Waze Mota. I look like an 82-year-old man who can't see. I feel like I've recently watched stand up something where there is an old person being like my eye sciatica. My, I look like I have severe scoliosis in the morning. I cannot stand up strain. I'm been so just in the morning. Yes. What do you mean I'm gonna kill her tonight? No, I'm serious. It is. It's, it fucking hurts. I'm so sick of this shit. Someone said it lasts eight months. I go respectfully. Why specifically eight months? No, they were just like, oh yeah, my so and so had it and they had it for about eight months. Oh, okay. I was gonna say, and on the eighth month, well, I'm gonna a chiropractor. I'm getting a new back. I'm not doing this. I'm getting new nerves. All right. Are you on board? Yeah. Great. Should be mumbo number five. Ladies and gentlemen, this is mumbo number five, ma. That's. We're taking a quick break if you couldn't tell. She is acoustic. She's acoustic. She's acoustic. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's, let's go together. I actually wrote, I simply won't lie. Cynthia and Ari touching is too much. Why did they look malnourished is my notes. Oh, they were so healthy looking before. Sorry. Yeah. It's really hard because I, I can see both sides of people being like, leave women alone. We can't fucking win. We're either too skinny or too fat or Yeah, but still everyone has something to fucking say. I just don't believe I should be able to see your vertebrae. I agree. In any format, whether it be, if I see your sternum, I'm not here for it. There's a lot of sternum. A lot of sternum. And I listen if they feel healthy and their doctor says they're healthy, like truly we can fuck off. I hate, hate this new ozempic fad where celebrities who do not need to lose weight are now skeletons. Yep. It's awful because I just know little girls are looking at that, so I, I can see it from both sides, but Agreed. Yeah. Like fat people are not existent anymore. Yeah. And listen, you know, they're becoming obsolete. Yeah. We're gonna live in skinny Wally soon. So strap in, everyone get ready to get your little spaceship. Well, that correlates with what we're talking about today. Okay, so this is a call episode. I have absolutely no input. I have no idea what the fuck is happening. Those are my favorite episodes. So if something is off the rails, please do not blame me. You know? It's fine. No, it's fine. So I was thinking about tv. Well, first I was thinking about like, cancel her, not me. You can cancel me any day of the week. I don't give a fuck. I, I, I'm at least self-aware. It's not like I'm like, this is, these are my opinions and like, this is right and there's nothing wrong with it. I'm ignorant and I'm okay with it. And those are my thoughts. I mean, this as the highest form of a compliment, you are like if Zacharia Porter and Jake Shane had a baby, that's the most, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me because it's like so out of pocket and the, the chms of there. Oh yeah, yeah. But it's so funny. Thank you. That's usually, that's what I think. Thank you. That's so, I hope people think the same or they're like this stupid fucking bitch. But also, no, because I think you have. I we're both ends of the spectrum, which I love, but intended. No, but like we really are. You feel so one way about something and I'm usually on the polar opposite end. And that's what makes us so fun. We are so fun. We're so fun. We cover everyone, I feel. Do you know what I mean? Like some people are you and some people are me. Yeah. Like there can't be a person. Well, there probably will be a person my life, like the Glenda to my album, the Dirtiest Look, I'm getting the dirtiest. I feel like I am the mer de accent. I'm Nessa Rose. Oh my God. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding to you. No, you're Bach. You're fucking Bach bitch. Anywho, I was spiraling and I was thinking about TV shows that like. Why the fuck do we love these on tv? Like, I was thinking of like, why was this allowed? Extreme Makeover Home Edition, America's Next Top Model, and I landed on The Biggest Loser, oh, America's Next Top Model. We should do a breakdown of that. So I was like, I was gonna do them all in one. And I was like, I was spiraling too much on just one that I was like, these have to be separate entities, I fear. So today we're gonna talk about the phenomena that was the biggest loser. Did you ever watch it as a child? Yes. I remember them screaming at people like on the treadmill. I remember them screaming at them, and then there's like a breakdown and they're crying and they're like, don't you wanna do this for your kids? Yep. And then they like bring in the like, super, super personal stuff to motivate, motivate said person. And then I remember the finales with like, them stepping on the big scale and yeah. The, the reveals as RuPaul would call it a reveal. Mm-hmm. You know, when they march through the paper or No, it's a picture. Yeah. No, it's, yeah, it's a picture of them and they just, yeah. They like go through through very like high school football vibes. Yes. Yes. Very. Finishing a race. Yeah, I do remember it. Okay. I didn't watch it religiously though. I just remember what's her face. Jillian Michaels. Mm-hmm. And the the blonde guy? Bob. Bob. Oh my God. He was on Traders. I love Bob. Yeah, we'll talk about him. Don't worry. Oh boy. This is a documentary right? On Netflix? Yeah. Is that was not your source? My source is a documentary. It's also Wikipedia and that's Chachi pt and that's really it. Great. I also, I didn't watch it, but my mom did. And I have like, vivid memories of, I used to do this really annoying thing that I've talked about on the pod. I think where, how my parents' house is base is like when you go upstairs, it's a room on the right and a room on the left. Like they're directly across from each other. Right. And she, I was a freak and I didn't wanna sleep with the door closed and I'd make my mom sleep with the door open too. Like I just needed to know that someone was nearby. And yeah, I'm still like that kind of, kind of, yeah. Most codependent human being on the plane. So I would lay in bed and like pretend to be asleep and she would obviously watch TV before bed and I could see the TV from my room. So I would crawl outta bed and I would lay in the hallway and I'd watch her TV from the hallway. Like laying on the ground and she would never know I was there and she would watch the big, she would watch Lost, she would watch The Biggest Loser and antiques Roadshow. I'd get so pissed when she was watching Antiques Roadshow'cause I didn't wanna watch that. Go to fucking bed. Then you went and she could hear my Nintendo Ds. There's no way she didn't know you were there. No, she did. Sometimes I could hear her like, get outta bed and then I would run to my bed really quick and be like, she absolutely knew you were there. No, a hundred percent I don't think all the time, but I think she did most of the time. But yeah, I used to watch The Biggest Loser with her, basically. That's funny. Without her knowing that I was watching with, with her. Funny. What a lineup, by the way. What a dream lineup. I would Biggest Loser Pill for that lineup now. Or like a weird sci-fi thing. And I'd be in my, I'd be like fucking pissed laying there on the ground and be like, why, why'd you wanna watch this tonight? Mom? I'd be so pissed. So let's get into it. I asked Chachi BT set the tone for me. Like what's the t on The Biggest Loser And Chachi BT slated it down as always and told me it's a reality show where people try to lose weight as fast as humanly possible while America watches from the couch eating Doritos. No notes on brand. No notes on brand. I will say the GLP ones and the Ozempic cra would, would be, have them quaking would have these people qua. I would be pissed. No, I know. Lit. I would be fucking pissed. So where did the show come from? Why, who started it? All the things the show was created by these three guys, this guy David, this guy Mark, and this guy Ben. All he needs to know. David is often credited as like the co-creator. He's the producer, he's the big shot. Okay. Show is premiered in October of 2004. Okay. How old were you? I'm a freshman in high school. I'm 14. That's crazy because I am eight. Yeah. Yeah. That adds up. And according to David the spark for the show came from a time that he saw, he was at a gym and he saw a sign for, it was like a guy who was really obese and he wrote a sign on the window like begging for help from a trainer. And it was like really sad to him. It like stuck with him? No. No, because he, you would, you would see that and be like, let me help. Instead he comes up with this crazy show where, oh, I thought you were saying like he was gonna be part of it. No, and that's what he was doing. No. So he's thinking to himself, oh that's wild. That moment planted him like with an idea where he could come up with a show that had real people unhappy with their weight and like puts them on tv. It just doesn't make any sense. So they figured why not take overweight obese people and put them in a pressure cooker bootcamp per Chachi B tape Christ and turn their weight loss journey into a competition for tv. And that entire combination of transformation, the before and after the drama and the human piece was exactly what reality TV fucking loves needs and what we love about reality tv. I was gonna say that's the whole thing. Yeah, America's fucked. I mean, nothing gets people like on American Idol with a sob story. Every single person's like my mother died in front of me when I was four. We lost our house in a fire when I was seven. And I've never been the same. Not only does America love tragedy, they love a fatty respectfully. We love a fatty who's desperately trying to fit in with the skinnies. Yeah. And honestly,'cause this world was made for skinny white people. And so we love someone who America likes to make fun of a fatty, it's just the way it is. Oh, we're so fat phobic as a society. No. Yeah, but as a fellow big back, I'm in on it. I don't care. I see. I'm pissed about it because I wanna go back to the days where the rich people were fat. Like if you had, you were rich. Yes. If that meant you were rich and you were like a fucking batty. If you were a little chubby because you could afford to eat, and I would like to go back to that. We would be the hottest commodity in fucking, I'll speak for myself. I won't say that about you, but like I would be the ah C mod. First of all, how dare you. Second of all, I'd be off the shelves like hotcakes. I'd tell more than you if we are fatties.$1 discount. Come one. Come all. I'm just kidding. Who were our key peeps on the show? Okay, we talked about it earlier. Producers figured out. They didn't need trainers, but they needed people who kind of looked the part, they, they were fit, they were motivating, they were confident and even more intense. And they wanted two different folks. So they wanted like two different types, personalities. They wanted one who was intense and intimidating, and then they wanted one who's more soft spoken, supportive, you know, Yingying, good cop kind of bad cop. Yeah. So they're looking for somebody who contrasted Jillian, who was obviously they're more tough love. They look at as a, as like a dominatrix type of girl, which is like, of course every woman who's assertive is a bitch. Yep. So Jillian Michaels, I'll tell you, is not fucking around at the time before the show, she was a trainer in LA and she knew some producers. She was super social and she basically got asked to audition because she was tough and she was loud and she was like a fucking military sergeant. Was she a celebrity trainer? Like did, was she kind of in that world? Yeah, a little bit. Bob had more celebrities than she did, I believe. Okay. But she was, she was out and about in la If you're in LA and you're a well-known trainer, like you're definitely having some important people. Right. On your map B-list minimum. Yeah. So in other words, they wanted someone who could yell on TV without crying and she was like, sure, rent's not cheap. I'll do it. Amen. She didn't just audition, she walked into the room and said, gimme a contestant right now. And she trained a random casting assistant until they practically collapsed. Oh. And the producer said, perfect. Exactly what we want. You're hired, is she in the documentary? Yeah. Oh no, she's not. Bob is she declined. Interesting. Yeah. So NBC ate her shit up and was like, you're on the show. Got it. And so now they're going back to the yin yang thing. Right. They find Bob, they, Bob is a southern born yoga loving, blonde highlighted fellow who is currently at the time, a personal trainer in la. He had a, was a group fitness instructor at like a crunch gym. Like nothing crazy. You think that's like Planet Fitness kind of. But he was also on the side, a celebrity trainer for a few hot people. He was just a few hot pee, just a few hot peeps, you know? Sure. He was known for being more feelings forward and like much more softer and empathetic than Jillian where she was like, make you do burpees until you throw up, type of thing. Cool. Yeah, so a casting director saw him at Crunch and he was teaching classes and working with private people and he was like, you, let's do it. He was approachable, all the things. So they found the perfect counterpart for Jill's Hole, like, I'll break you and rebuild you, type of thing. They approached him, he did a screen test, they loved him. They thought he was so warm and so friendly and perfect fit, and they were sold. And there we have the iconic duo that comes to be Jillian and Bob on. I almost just said the, I don't know what I just said. I almost just said The Bachelor. Am I Okay? A little different? The Biggest Loser. Okay. And in the early two thousands, that image of the two of them, the. Hot and cold, if you will, made the show an absolute hit. I don't think it would've been what it is or what it was. Right. Without them. Without them. And so how did they find contestants? Might you ask what person, what fat person would be like? Yeah, I'm willing to put my whole pussy out there. We would do it for money. Yeah, but they're not getting paid. Yeah, but they could win and get paid. Yeah, that's true. It's for the prize. Yeah, that's true. But they're all like my, I won't live. I can't live, I won't be able to survive unless I go on the show like that. I also, no, I'm being so, I'm being so serious. Tracy almost died. Bridget. We'll talk about it. Oh, that's awful. I also think, to your point, America does have this fascination with fame. And obesity. We're so fat phobic. And so even people who are fat are fat phobic. Like Yes. They're like, I don't wanna be here. I need your help. And now I can also get famous at the same time and maybe even win money. Yeah. But it's interesting'cause this was before influencers. Yeah, I was. So it was harder for everyday people to be that viral or famous right away. Overnight. Yes. Yeah. It was like a different time. But we've always loved reality tv. Always. No matter what it was Ty Pennington on my screen. Like I Ty Pennington. No, what was the redhead? And they did the switcher Rudy for the houses. And they each like a couple switched houses. Wife swab? No, no, no. And they like redid a room. No, I don't know. You don't know what I'm talking about right now? No. Erin is screaming it through the, hold on. I have to ask Chad. Trading spaces? Oh yeah, you guys, yeah. Okay. Obviously. But he was one of the carpenters was tied. That's how I found out who he was. He was on. Oh, okay. That makes sense. That tracks. Yeah. No, no, I did not. I mean, I guess at that point where we are in the Laguna Beach oc era of life, so kind of makes sense. Yeah. I was listening to Remy Bad, honestly. Oh. See's not reality, but you know what I meant. Yeah. No, but same but different. Remy, I was listening to Remy Bader on Claudia Re's podcast'cause I figured like both of them are like. One's on Ozempic one had like a ridiculous surgery. And they were talking about like, for, to be clear, like we have never been like pro heavy body positivity like we have. You're lying if you, like, most fat people hate the way they look and you're, you're not saying like you're lying, but like majority of the time, like it's fine to not just be like, you have to love the body you're in. Like you can hate it and fix it. Like it's fine. Like you, it's co should agree. And I completely just, this is what I think. I think we should just leave people alone. I think we should. No, I agree. Should, I think we should just stop. I hate how everyone has to have opinion on fucking everything. Mm-hmm. Like, just let people live their life. If they wanna be fat and they're happy with that, great. If they wanna be fat and they fucking hate it and they don't wanna do anything about it, that is their decision, that's their prerogative. Also, if you have a body that you don't like and you can afford a fix to it, go fucking for it. It's no one's business. Who cares what you're taking, what you're injecting, what you're like, be healthy and take care of yourself. That's it. It's truly that simple. You know what I mean? I'm sorry. No, I know what you mean. And then actually, like whatever conversation they have, I'm butchering it, but like it really resonated with me. Yeah, because you, you've always said that you hate people who turn coat. Yeah. That you don't, like, she says, to be clear, like I was never happy pro body positivity. I just wanted more brands to be more inclusive. And I still stand by that. And it's like a hundred percent stand by that get it. But also like, yeah. I don't know. I, I do like her though. I like her. She's grown on me. Um, Anyw, who I think if you make money off of people. It's hard with influencers'cause that becomes their entire brand. Mm. And then they have followers who invest in that brand and are the reason you make all that money. Yeah. That is my problem with it. Yeah. I agree with influencers specifically. Influencers like her got famous off of that and that is why people had a problem with it. Yeah, that's fair. But that, that's, that's she's trick. She's tricky for me. Yeah. She's, I can't, I can't make a statement on it. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of things in play there. So going back to how they found contestants, these people were fucking creaming for the biggest loser. I'm, I'm not exaggerating. They had, they had to do open casting calls all across the country. People were waiting for hours on end. Get outta here. No, I swear to they were bringing pictures of like their before pictures and like, this is what I look like now. Tragic stories, childhood trauma, dramatic stories on how this would save their lives and they'll die if they don't get on the show. Like people were creaming for it. I can't use another word to describe it, other than that. It was crazy. No. Like they were trying to get on there with Bob Harper. I'll tell you the cringes audition tapes I've ever fucking seen in my life. Oh. And you know that the producers were like, gimme the fattest. The most unhealthy, the most problematic. And the one with the most dramatic a hundred percent backstory, tragedy. Tragic. Oh, you can't get pregnant'cause you're fat. You're on the biggest loser. Like you're on. No, I'm so serious. So much. So they get on the show each season. I don't even know how many fucking seasons there were. I know there was someone that's on, I'm gonna talk about that was on season 15. So like, the fact that we let this go for 15 seasons is crazy. Know there were 15 seasons. There's probably more than that. I don't even know what the cap is. I should have looked into that. I'll look it up right now. So you get on the show, right? Bob and Jill, they call you, they're like, you're the biggest loser. And then you fly out. The next day you isolate in a hotel, you sign a long sketchy contract and off you go onto the ranch. I asked Cha GBT 17 seasons. 17 seasons. That's s's fucking 16 seasons too long. You asked Cha GBTI asked ya GBT to describe the ranch that they get sent to, to set the mood. Imagine a ranch where the air smells like protein powder, cortisol, and whispered rebellion. Not the anarchy, but what was actually going on. Brutal workout schedules. Think military, but maybe worse than also with cameras. No. The contestants had to train for 6, 8, 10 hours a day, often to the point where they were vomiting. A girl literally vomited while she was on the treadmill and they were like, keep running, passing out, falling off the treadmill. That way. Too many clips of people falling off treadmills. Why are we falling? Why? Also, that's inhumane. That's awful. Golly. It's giving hamster on a wheel. Like stop. Nothing hamster on wheel. No, it is. It is. No, it is. I hate that. That was so accurate. Do you know how many calories they had to burn to a day? How many? 6,000. What? 6,000? No. Mm-hmm. Miss Tracy, let's talk about Miss Tracy. Miss Tracy was a mother who, no, I love her. We ride a Don for Miss Tracy. I forget what season she on. Okay. Stop yelling. I do forget what season she was on. Off the top of my head. She's in the documentary. She. Angel baby love her. She's a mother of like four. And she's like, I think she's having some marriage issues or some infidelity. And she's like, it's because I'm fat. Like I think my husband's leaving me. Whatever. He cheated. She doesn't get into it. She cries on the, on the show though, on the documentary. So she goes on the show right out the gate. They drop them off at the beach on their first day, and they're like, run a mile and she can see the, the end of the race. Like she can see the what am I trying to say? The finish line. And she collapses. She literally dies. No, like her entire, all of her body shuts down. She was like, she saw the light. She had to get med, med Flighted explain my face. Right now she is a gap. She, her mouth is open. I she'll get to her core. Miss Tracy almost dies and she gets to the hospital. She's in the hospital for like two weeks. Colleen? Yes. Like her. Oh, it's, there's a word. This is on television. This is on television. This is the first day she was med flighted. She died. I like, she was fully dead. Tracy, she saw the light, she saw her grandfather. She went to the other side and then she was brought back. But she wakes up in the hospital a little zappy Zap. Yeah, a zippity zap and right back. And, but she says, you know, like, I don't, I'm, I don't think my time is done here. So she, a lot of people didn't like her that season because she ends up going back on the show and the doctor was like her biggest advocate. They had like one medic, we'll talk about him that's on the show and she, they're like still best friends. They ran the Boston Marathon recently. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. But she ended up going on. She didn't last that long. People didn't like her'cause she was kind of like risque, like she was just doing things. She was out there. She's like, I have nothing to lose. Like let's do this shit, you know? And they didn't like her because at the end of the day, it's a competition and she missed like the first two weeks. And so they're like, why are you Paris Show, get to be on this fucking show. But she's like, I just died. Didn't come back to life. I don't know. But anyways, so chaotic. Also, they do weekly weigh-ins. First of all, you couldn't catch me stepping on a fucking scale the other night. I, I said to on a weekly basis, I said to Jo randomly, so Man's has one in, Johnny has one in the, in the bathroom. And he steps on it on like a Sunday night after Fat Sunday. And I'm like, what's wrong with you? Why would you step on it right now? No, that's, it's gotta be like a Wednesday morning. Yeah. You masochist like literally like, shit your pants. And then step on, what are we doing here? Yeah. It can't be right after the weekend. It has to be the morning. Yeah. Like it's gotta be, it's like his night before he brushes his teeth. He'll like just step on it and I go the way, I will never step on that. I did the other night. Let me tell you, minty b ordered a steak and cheese. I, I had a mental, I not good. You look amazing, Colleen. No, I feel fine, but I, I just wasn't expecting that and I was like, oh, wow. Because it literally doesn't matter what number is. No, I know. I know. No, I know. I'm, I'm okay. I'm just saying it was, I haven't stepped on one in a while and I was like, well that's a little startling considering I paid to feel, look, feel, and look. Otherwise, okay. My mind's supposed to be small. Excuse me. But then I'm like, oh man. I'm like, is this muscle I've gained so much muscle. No, literally I've gained 10 pounds since I started dating me. Okay, well listen, I don't feel like that though. A bad day to do it. What'd you have that day? I don't know. I don't remember honestly. Was it a morning? It was a sun. It was a hungover Sunday. Oh. Obviously fucking not call it. Yeah. So I a little meant to be, but I'm fine guys. Don't worry. Just thought I'd share that, but it doesn't matter'cause I feel fine. So it's okay. Yes, I order a steak and cheese after that. Ate it in bed while man snorted my ear again. This is the life. Hold on dad. Don't be ridiculous, Andrea. Everybody wants this. Back to piss, Tracy. Oh. The weigh-ins. That's what I was gonna talk about. They do their weekly weigh-ins, eight weigh-ins, ungodly. They put these people in the ugliest fucking biker shorts, pot belly out in like a sports bra. The way with their booty dos out with their booty dos out, and they weigh them in front of a crowd on a national television. Every week is in front of a crowd. So it's, I guess it's allegedly not every week they do it. Like sometimes it'll be like 12 days or it'll be like every three days. So it's like not consistent. Oh.'cause they're trying to the I get it. Yeah. It's like not consistent. It's for the drama. Don't let them fool you. The scale was treated like a God and everyone worshiped it accordingly. Oh God. Everyone has an eating disorder. This is what I did when I had an eating disorder. I weighed myself every morning like a psychopath. So you're probably thinking, or maybe you're not we have professional trainers, you know, there's a doctor on site. What was so problematic about this show? Okay. I, I could mention a few things so far. Oh, we will, medical oversight was light. Okay. There was our doctor, Dr. Hga, Robert Hga. Okay. We ride it on for him. Sweet Baby Angel. He cries in the documentary. He was left out a lot left out of a lot of the stuff that went on. He wasn't aware of the challenges that they were doing, and he obviously was like, that's not correct. That's not safe. But he's right. He's, he's our, we write it on for him. Okay. Hitting Ms. Tracy. Like I said, best of friends. There was one contestant that said that when she collapsed, they put oxygen on her and then they tried to send her back into the gym because he would make great footage, quote unquote, oh, no. Physical injuries were super common and hidden for the sake of tv. Torn joints, strained backs, stress fractures. Some contestants said that they were even encouraged to keep going unless they quite literally couldn't stand. And production didn't always show the injuries because limping is bad television. Cool. Says you with your sciatica, you'd make bad television right now. Bridge calorie intake was disturbingly low, not officially stated, but some contestants reported eating up to 800 to 1200 calories a day, but they were burning anywhere between 6,000 and 8,000 calories a day. Some days it was less. Some days it was more. And no, that's not discipline. That's quite literally famine with the camera crew in sight. A hundred percent agree. That's a cult starving people. Contestants said food was like actual fucking contraband. Oh, and kitchen. Were sneaking it. Yeah. Kitchen doors were locked. Padlocked at night. Get the fuck out. Wanna sleep? It's fat Camp on steroids. Bridgette, I would've gone a machete. I broke it. I would've ran away if you were feeding me that little Oh, it gets worse. No, it gets so much worse. I, I would've gone feral. I would've been foaming at the mouth to get outta that place. All sure. I would've run away in the night in your little ebenezer scrooge. Oo. Running for a chicken tender, scaring away looking for a potato production, was monitoring all their portions. Okay. I also saw somewhere that they were only allowed to eat on tv and like the portions would be like, not like four tv and then they would take some of it away. This is, this is not funny. I just, my, my gummy hit and I, I'm horrified. No, we have, it's everyone's fine now, so we're gonna laugh. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Snacking was forbidden. I ain't scared no snack. Like I, they were scared of the snacks. Okay. The fridge also had foods that they weren't allowed to touch. Don't know why. Like what? I dunno. Cookie. Oh, you know what it was? It was, there was like cookies, cereals, chips and shit that was used in like temptation challenges and it would just sit in the fridge. Mm-hmm. All the time. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because they used to, they had a challenge that was like. You had to eat a certain amount of calories, but you had to like, eat the items without going over. And they would put like cookies and pizza, like things in front of them and make them it. It was fucked up. One girl was crying while she was doing it. Well, because I bet the point is you can eat more healthy things that will fill you probably. Yeah. Versus like a cookie is just as much. It won't. So like America sat down and watched people cry over eating pizza on public on phone. Okay. But it's all internalized. It's all lives in us. I know. I'm just saying. And we wanna watch it. It's so fucked up. So basically they lived in a house with display food, like a museum exhibit. Oh my god. Mustard, pickles, gum and coffee became meals. Contestants were saying that they were living off of mustard packets. They would like eat mustard packets at night, sugar-free gum, dozens a day. Black coffee pickles and ice cubes. These were quote unquote free foods. They, so there was like no, or like at least minimal calories. So they were literally survival tools. You guys, my jaw. I haven't shut my mouth in five straight minutes. There was one girl that said she'd eat half a dill pickle and feel like she was committing a crime. No. Laughing. This order hurts my back. Sciatica down my leg. Shut out your fucking sciatica. It hurts so fucking bad. Goy. I know, I know, I know. We just have to laugh walking by these little batons. Can't afford'em. Oh my God. A half a pickle. Half pickle. I feel like I just can't imagine being so desperate that a mustard packet would be like, mm, no. Literally no. Sopranos. It's like coke in the bathroom. Pine Baron's episode of Sopranos. That would be us. Your favorite. Yeah. A contestants also admitted to sneak fruit from the crew trailers'cause they had real food and they would afford oatmeal and they would steal peanut butter and they ate toothpaste for sweetness. Okay, this is so fucked up. One girl said she hid apples in her sports bra like they were diamonds, not toothpaste for dessert. Sweet treat. Wow, that's minty fresh. Fucked up. Eating too much was shamed on camera. So they would stage scenes, the producers would, where contestants would be taught like quote unquote portion control, but then they would take the portion after and take some out. So it was like a lot smaller, like I mentioned before. And if the plate looked too empty for TV producers would add food for the shot and then remove it. It's so cruel. They taught them dehydration tricks before weigh-ins. So water was sometimes Yeah. Restricted before weigh-ins. Yep. And they would tell them, you know, stop drinking water, sit in the sauna, sweat in layers, and don't eat any salty food. And they wanted to manipulate all the numbers. One girl said she drank nothing for 48 hours and lost 10 pounds of water weight on the scale. I don't have words. Some commentary from contestants are, quote, I thought I was going to die on the ranch more than once. And another one said, I left with the body of someone who survived a famine. I mean, a yes. Couldn't be us. Yes. Couldn't be us. No, could, could never be us. Different genetics though. We were just built different, hashtag built different two personal testimonies. This girl, Kai Hipper, she's from season three. She's basically the person that's like, no, this show is actually dangerous. And everyone's like, shut up. She's been outspoken for years calling the show like a fat shaming circus, tons of shit. And what she said happened was 10 to 12 hours a day they worked out. And until she vomited, I think she was the one that threw up on the treadmill. Trainers allegedly yelling shit like, you're gonna die on this treadmill. Which it happened. Yeah. No, it was on the beach, but like has happened on the show. Yeah. She reported that she actually lost 30 pounds in six days during filming. That is so unhealthy in so fucking bad for you. It's so bad. Her mental state at the ranch was, I was brainwashed and sleep deprived and I cried constantly. They kept them from family. This is a cult. It's separating you from your family. Yeah. Sleep deprivation, food deprivation, brainwashing all day, every day you have to be together. Were they wearing matching outfits because that's next? Yeah, they were the couple seasons. Well, there you go. The only thing they didn't do is everyone fuck Bob. Because Bob decided that he was the leader and everyone had to have sex with him. The people were loving. Bob. I love Bob. Bob only popped off once and it was at Joel, but she deserved it. Oh wow. Okay. And Joel wasn't trying. Oh, she really wasn't. Okay. She was in the documentary too as well, and she did not like Bob. She did not have a nice say i, I trust. Yeah. Bob had a heart attack actually a little after. A little bit after. And the one person who did not reach out to him was Jillian. He was, he almost died. He was dead for nine minutes. He was working out, had a heart attack. Nine minutes. Nine minutes is way too long. He was unconscious for like three days and Jillian Michaels did not reach out to him. Mm-hmm. He says it in the documentary. That's so fucked up. I'll say, the one person on this planet that has ever come in contact with him that did not reach out to him regarding his legit, that's so fucked up. Death scenario. What is she even doing nowadays? Podcasting. Like, yikes. Talking about who knows what. Probably not to go on Ozempic at. Look at me sitting next to you. What? On a podcast? I'm like, ew. Yikes. Please. The last person we need to hear from. I can't. After the show, our girl here, Kai, she off naturally developed a severe dece disordered eating situation. Oh. Obviously regained the weight because, duh. And she received online hate for failing because. You know, that's what people see that as, even though they have no idea what she went through. Right. And then the second person I had had some shit to say was this girl, Suzanne Menka. She's from season two. She is one of those people that I wanna believe her, but like, also the way she presents herself, I don't like, you don't like, I don't like her. I just don't. And so it, it does not help her message. Yeah. She's not someone I wanna feel bad for. Yeah. I don't, I don't know how to explain it. She says, we're like prisoners. She described that contestants weren't allowed to leave the ranch, call their family. They weren't even allowed to talk to each other at night. Because producers wanted them to be emotionally like dependent. Yes. And do their stay in their own lane. A cult can't say it enough. Truly, I can't get it. Said that filming involved sweating for hours, then sitting for hours, then sweating again over and over and over again. Her standout quote, we were so hungry, we ate toothpaste. I mean, I'll never get over this episode. This episode will stay with me for a very long time. I'm really disturbed. So did these people actually lose weight? Yes. However, at what cost also? Yes. Every single week. That's why people were, America was like, holy shit. Because these people were stepping up on the scale and they were losing like 15 pounds a week. Yeah. And you know, they obviously train hard and you see them eating well, but I had no idea it was that. Yeah. Extreme. I mean, I'm now, now that I can look back, I, I get it. But at that time we thought reality TV was real. This was like, before we realized all of it is fake and contrived. Correct. And manipulated. At the time we were like, this is exactly what, they never shut the cameras off. This is verbatim what happened. This is fucking crazy, Colleen. I know. It's wild. I, I, I remember it being like a thing of hope. Like people would watch it at the gym as like motivation. Like, if these people can do it, I can do it. No, it's fucked up. But also, like, they were must've been like, especially to get to the end, like they were extremely mentally strong humans. You couldn't catch me doing it all day every day. No. That's another thing, like maybe it's just a, her mentality when one person believes it, it's like a ripple effect. But I just, I can't believe one of them didn't stand up in one of these exercise rooms and go, what the fuck are we doing here? Like, a little rebellion, a little, I mean there was definitely people that were like, I can't do like giving up. I can't do it. Like what the fuck kind of fought back kind of thing. But like it never got that far because I think they were really picky about who they chose. It was people that were like, I literally will die if I don't get on the show because I can't. Yeah. Can't. Yeah. People who are so, so, so bought in already. So that's all they are. You know, it's hard to get that way when you're so like adamant about being like, this is it for me. Yeah. People thought there was one guy that lost like over a hundred pounds in like an eight week span. Like it's just, there's just no way that's good for you. No, even, even people who have that type of weight to lose, there's no way losing that much that fast. It's gonna affect your organs or some shit. You probably got some skin hanging. It ain't right. Well the skin hanging happens no matter what. That has nothing to do with speed. I know. And also like, shouldn't you be like building muscle? Like, you know what I mean? Like you're with trainers, you shouldn't just be like, I get losing weight, losing fat, but don't you wanna like feel strong and build muscle? Okay. According to tra GPT. Losing a lot of weight extremely fast, like eight PA hundred pounds in eight weeks is just not ideal, and it's medically very dangerous. In almost never possible without severe harm to the body. It's suggests extreme calorie restriction, so starvation, all sorts of shit. It can cause life-threatening, electrolyte, electrolyte imbalances, irregular heartbeat, heart failure, seizures, or sudden death. Good gallstones are common. Your heart and organs can shrink and weaken is often a sign of an underlying medical issue like cancer or severe infection, sciatica. I'll kill you. Rapid weight loss increases the risk of Refeeding syndrome. If someone who has been starving starts eating normally, their body, fuck them up. Have a deadly shift in electrolytes. Yeah. Just like this requires medical monitoring. You have to like slow, it's like giving your, it's like coming off it's like being an addict and stopping. Well, I always think about like Apollo. Really? Any movie with Tom Hanks?'cause I was just thinking about Apollo 13 to like cast away when they don't eat anything and lose a lot. Like Castaway specifically when you, when he gets back, he has to drink soup and he has to eat Really, really like, you can't just raw Dogg it. You can't just be out here eating a McDonald's double cheese. I would be though. I, that's all I would want. Okay. Have you ever thought about this? I'm really going off the rails, but I need you to stay with me. Okay. Okay. Have you ever thought about, this is an icebreaker. You get lost on a desert island, they find you. Yeah. You come back, you come off the ship, you come off the plane, whatever it is, everyone's clapping. Oh my God. We thought she was lost. Her cousin, Bridget looked for her everywhere. She kept her story alive. Oh, thank you. She got the news involved. Did you? I did. Thank you. So you get off and you hear all the, everyone's there and clapping for you and so excited for you. And the newscaster comes up to your face and says, what's your first meal gonna be? What's your answer? I. I have two thoughts. One, let me think about that. Two, like that's literally the exact same thing of just being like, what's your death row meal? But you have this long dramatic No because it's not a death row meal. The death row meal is the last thing you'll ever have alive. The coming back from an island you were deserted on is, what's the one thing you have when you come back? See, like I get the same energy from both. Absolutely. Not completely different vibes. That's like saying the beginning of the trip is the same as the end of the trip. No, I completely disagree. I dunno what I would ask for. It might be a McDonald's cheeseburger. Probably. I'm probably, I can assume I'd probably be craving like meat, like red meat. I have to ask people this. I've never felt more opposite from you than I do in this moment. Okay. All right. And I need you to know that. And I stand here 10 toes and say, okay, I'm gonna ask the people. Ronaldo, I think I would say a pizzeria Regina Pizza with sausage. Regina sausage. You're telling me that's not on your death row meal though. No, I would have a rib eye. I would have mashed potatoes. I would've Caesar salad. I would have a Cosmo. I would have a carrot cake. You don't want a Cosmo when you get off the island eventually. But you can't start by drinking you fucking animal, whatever. You're gonna get off a deserted island. You haven't had water in days'cause you certainly wouldn't know how to find clean water. I would want a crisp Diet Coke, but I'd also want You need water? No, I don't. I don't. But I would want a crisp Diet Coke on my death meal too. So you just told me that when these people lose all this weight, they have to ease back into it. Crisp Diet Coke. Bubbly. Great. Okay. Please continue. Bubble secure. Heal the stomach. Ginger ale. Ginger Where was I? I don't even remember. Oh right. Some people were losing like 200 pounds though. Like that's OB like absurd. Too much weight. Rachel Fredrickson from season 15. She started at two 60. Take a guess at what she ended at. Okay. I mean, I would say a hundred pounds. So one 60 1 0 5. Sorry. Look her up right now. Type in Rachel f Fredrickson. 105 pounds. Mm-hmm. Rachel Fredrickson before and after. No, look it up. no fucking way. This is, what is this? What am I looking at right now? So she comes out and goes through the paper and Bob and Jillian are horrified. They're not, they immediately freeze and they're like, whoa. Like for, like, you should see their faces. I, I'll show you. Try to find out you a clip actually, after this.'Cause they, obviously they're trainers, you know, they're not dumb. They're here to, oh, this is. So awful. Yeah. They become obsessed once you start, sometimes people are just neurotic and you can't stop. Yeah. And she's the case of that for sure, but they're absolutely horrified. They're both like, like not in a way that's like, oh my God. Oh wow. It's like, know this. No. They know how bad it is. That's You're ill. Yeah. Yeah. You're not. Well, Danny Cahill from season eight, he lost 239 pounds. Wow. He won that season. No. Wow. So he was so big before that. He actually, not that he did it in a healthy way, I'm saying like he looked great, but of course he regained the weight after he maintained it for a little while. But it sounds like a lot of them do, right? Yes. So that a very common thing. A lot of them have quote unquote, if you wanna call it success, but a lot of people left were with a lot of long-term lifetime issues. People left the ranch and they either immediately regained the weight because their bodies obviously. We're being starved. So you're going zero to a hundred, obviously you're just gonna, right. The moment you started, normally you could drink water and gain 10 pounds. Exactly. Like it's just the way it is. Exactly. Yeah. One piece of bread. Your hips are gone. They weren't built like us. They weren't, they weren't built for the, the famine. Like, like us. So for the sad part, oh no. Who dies? No one dies. But obviously the aftermath contestants accused the show of enabling a lot of disordered eating and they had so many issues after including binging situations, metabolic damage, hormone issues, long term fear food, probably a lot of a dump body dysmorphia. Oh, I can't even imagine. Obsessive, yeah. You leave with a complex. Yeah. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh shit. I go into the real world and I can't handle that shit because. It ain't right in there. It ain't right. It ain't right. So most people regained most of it, all of it. And some people even gained more in tenfold. And some people were able to keep it off to an extent and, you know, maintain a healthy lifestyle. Right. The worst part is, is that most were ashamed to go out in public after, because, you know, you were just on a national television, everyone saw you lose all that weight. They were so proud of you, impressed, and then now you're not. And it's like, oh, she couldn't do it. Yeah. People are disappointed. It shaped strangers to them. At least. Not to. Not to me. Yeah. Not to me. No. Never. So, like, not great. But overall I did enjoy the show, but knowing the backstory on it, very sad, very upset, but also like these people could have just said, gotta go, but they didn't. And that's the true tee on The Biggest Loser. Wow. That's really how it went. That was the lowdown. And you know what? America's Desktop model, extreme Makeover, home Edition, other ones are just a story for a different day. Truly, that was my plan. And that just, it couldn't, it couldn't happen for me. And that's the tea. Wow. And so how do they like wrap up the documentary? Like where do they leave you? What, what sentiments do they leave you with? Tracy. Tracy leaves you with, you don't need people to cheer you on. You're your biggest cheerleader. Oh, Tracy. Yeah. And now she's happy and she, she's remarried. And are they all Well, she's found happiness. Yeah. Yeah. She's found complete, utter her happiness. Good, good for her. And a man didn't give it to her. She's like, you don't need a man. You don't need anybody to make you feel a certain way. You just have to be your biggest cheerleader and you're fine. Fuck yeah. Tracy. Yeah. She's a bad. You would love her. She almost died. It's okay though. Wow. I'm gonna absolutely watch it now. I had no interest before, but I'll definitely watch out. I didn't either and then I just randomly was like, all right. One of my best friends, Val actually texted me one time. I love when you guys do documentaries. I can watch'cause I can watch it and then listen to you and have that context or watch it after. And I was like, fair point. Well you're welcome. So everyone can go watch that on Netflix and I'll put it in the bio. Yeah, it was good. It was good. Are you ready for Christmas? No. What do you mean physically? Financially? No. Okay. What do you got coming up? What's going on? You know where I finally got a reservation at? Where? Capri. Oh, I, I've been on like, not the wait list. Like, that sounds so loose, right? But I, I was on a It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. Well they, the only ones they have are like 11 o'clock in the morning. Like, I'm not doing that. I I don't wanna eat your chicken parm and your vodka pasta at 11:00 AM mm-hmm. Well, I do, but I don't. But I don't. So I got a notification that someone let go of their, the day after Christmas day of like four top at like 7:00 PM I was like, fuck. Yeah. I mean on it done. So, I dunno who's going? I don't know. I'm going, I'm going. That's all you need to know. What else was, that was the first thing that I thought of. I don't really, I'm hanging out with you guys on the 11th. What are we doing? Yeah, so we were having a chat on Thanksgiving and I said, oh, Colleen had said she wanted me to talk to you guys.'cause like, this won't missing this. It is like a hole and we need to scratch that itch. Like we need. And I,'cause I said, oh, I offered like me to go hang out with her and John. And she was like, yeah, that's great. Can we also invite Erin and Karen? And I was like, gotcha. Car. We, we can't just miss Thanksgiving. We need like a reenactment, which is totally fair. Yeah. So we invited our, our cousin-in-law, Jen, a KR cousin. And we were just thinking of doing something like really obnoxious over the top Christmas and there are a few bars in the area that offer such a experience. Okay. And so we shall see, but it should be fun. We just wanna like go yap. Get apps and hang, I mean you could put us in a, a white room and I was gonna say I could host something here. Yeah. And we could just hang, but. I figured we would meet here and go somewhere or yeah, you're a good middle point, but we might meet somewhere else depending on what location we go to, so we just have to figure it out. We could even hit the black rose. Honestly. It's so cute. I would love to go to the black row. It's so cute and Christmasy right now. We should. It's the best place on Earth. Yeah, that's my favorite bar in Boston. It's very cozy. Christmasy right now. Drove last night. You were there last night? No, not last night. Monday night. I drove past. Yeah. I usually go off about the Hong Kong, but the black rose really is my favorite. We could finish at Hong Kong with the girlies. I think I'm onto something. You dare. It's so cute And Christmas in there right now. If you offer this up, well, I'll text it right now. Say it with your whole fucking chest calling. Shit, I'm saying with my whole pussy. No, you have a pussy, honey. You don't say pussy. Ssy is for the men. No, it's It's all the same. No, you have a pussy. You say it with a p. I like pussy better. Okay. You can say it with your full pussy. You're Bushs pussy. I think I'm gonna grow a landing strip calling. Why? I just want, I wanna spice it up. Oh, you just wanna try something different? Yeah. I've just been bald eagle for so long. You know what you could do? What is Get a ski? No. Get the fucking Kim Kardashian's new thong underwear. That's a bush. That's disgusting. Okay, well I'm just saying it's also an option who passed that in production. I wanna know. Wait. Okay. So you have Capri, you're going out with us. We have our Shannon family Christmas party. And then I'm assuming you're gonna see Man's family as well at some point. Yeah, I'm gonna spend Christmas Eve with them. Oh, that's so nice. And then you're gonna come to us on Christmas Day, right? Yeah, I'm gonna wake up probably at his house, which is like so weird. And then I'm gonna go to my parents by myself. I'm gonna leave him at home. And then I'll like do the, the Christmas day at my parents and then I'll loop back and go to you and then go back to his, wow, that's a lot. Mm-hmm. But. That's usually what I do anyways. What a lineup. Anything else you got going on? No. What about you? HBU I have another 30 plus dance party event this weekend. Jesus Christ. I'm ready. Okay. I said if my sciatica, I was just say, are you prepared? I'm gonna be livid. You could incorporate the syt into your dance moves. Oh my God. Like Lisa Turtle? Yeah. Do you know what I mean when I say that? Yeah. When she has a broken leg. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure. Sometimes you get my references and sometimes you don't. We have a Shannon Family Christmas party. I have a bunch of like, I have a ex-coworker party, but it's like a fun one. Mm-hmm. Like it's people I still keep in touch with. That's tea. And we do it every year and it's the best tea. It's so fun spilled. And then we have my home friends are getting together and doing something. My college friends will probably get to get, like, I have all this whole month cup, cup run and if everything goes well, some things are up in the air. Okay. Okay. And I can't talk about them yet. Well, even like, I just don't care. See, I went, tell me how you supposed to bring it. No, a am. And I might be going to Barbados. Okay. From the 26th to January 3rd or fourth, whatever that Saturday, Sunday is. And I'm waiting on a few things, but I have not booked my plate yet, and I'm waiting. Anxiously do Uhhuh Uhhuh, so we'll, we'll just have to wait and see what I do, TBD, but lots of fun things coming up big month. I love Christmas. This is my time to shine so much extroverted parties, things to do. Everything's cute. Everything's wholesome and cozy. You're looking at me horrified. This is your No, not horrified. Not horrified. I just, I'm thinking of all the charging I'm gonna have to do. Oh, I am like, ready to rumble a bull rear. You won't have to charge me for two months after this. Stop. Fully charged. Bull stick. Late charged. Very excited, very ready. I ordered a bunch of your Christmas presents today.'cause you wouldn't help me at all. Yeah, because you wouldn't tell me a single thing, which I don't need anything so rude. Just saying I gave you an idea. I didn't know it was a horrible idea, but I gave you an idea. You gave me nothing. Yeah, because I don't give people things.'cause that's the get point of get, my thing is, is I hate when people are like, like, sisters are like, what do you want? Well, what do you want? And then they just buy it. Like, no, it's, that's the point of gift giving. Like, I love to like, think of something you told me three months ago That's so annoying three months ago that you don't remember that. You're not even even point me in the right direction though. No, no. I get gifts that I think that. You need or want or would want, but like won't buy yourself and have insinuated that you wanted or like said something like, I agree, I love gift giving. I love a thoughtful gift, but not everyone is that way. Well, I am so, but the, the key here, and I think this is important to note, you don't expect gifts. No, not at all. That's where I would punch me in the throat because you can't expect them not help and not get them and be upset all at the same time. Oh God, I would ever even be upset. Like I, you could, you me, when you're like, I don a slice of Wonder Bread and I would be like, thank you so much. Right. You are truly saying like, I don't care. It doesn't matter because I don't want anything and anything you give me is an added bonus and is thoughtful. Correct. Yeah. It's equivalent to like me saying that I don't, I don't like to ask for things. It's the same feeling. I think most people who know you, like I, you know, I'm gonna get you something. And it's helpful to know what direction I should go in. And I know I do, I do know that I do, but like, it's fine. Like anything you got me, I would love because you know me. But I can't, I can't wait to gift give. We'll have a whole Kiki. Actually, our next episode, I believe is Christmas Eve. It is. So I actually was gonna do Christmas stuff today, not Christmas stuff, but I had a couple like Christmas Miracle cutesy stories and I was like, can we do a Christmas miracle thing? Yeah. That's why in our next episode. Yeah. That's why I saved. So this is me saying, spoiler alert. I saved it because I was like, we'll just do it next week.'cause it's on Christmas Eve. Oh, that's such a good idea. Okay. Select what do you got going on this weekend? Do we kind? I've already answered that. Literally nothing. I have nothing. Okay. I don't have shit. I'm gonna pop my pussy. All right? Okay. Pop your pussy. Plus 30 all right, everyone, pop your pussy. Even if you have sciatica. Don't let your sciatica ruin your pussy. Pop, get you down. Don't let it get you down. I won't. Yes. Damn. Let your pussy, pussy, Ew. Hated that. But love you guys. Love you mean it. Love you mean it. Goodbye. Goodbye. It's giving also an honor. Okay. Bye. Goodbye.

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podcast was produced by me, Bridget Shannon. Music is written and performed by Matt Derosiers. You can find his band, Super Stoker, anywhere you listen to music.